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To think Farage surely has to go

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 13:50

So Farage has some dodgy private company set up to avoid paying tax. Is he being pressured to resign as head of Reform? Of course not. Because he’s an entitled privileged man.

The double standards are incredible really. Here’s the story https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

While I think Rayner had to resign, why are the same standards not being applied?

Nigel Farage uses private company to pay less tax on GB News earnings

Exclusive: Reform leader’s use of personal services firm is a practice criticised across the political spectrum

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

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Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 13:28

Goldenbear · 08/09/2025 13:26

I'm not discussing Labour, I'm discussing Reform and what they have to offer for the Economy to grow as that will have the most impact on people's daily lives.

People feeling safe to walk the streets will be at the forefront of voters' minds.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/09/2025 13:28

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 15:37

Farage is looking very likely to be the next PM. He already well ahead in the polls. The only people that need to worry and the feckless and lazy who might have to get off their arses for their cash. The country will change massively for the better.

Oh lord.

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 13:30

BIossomtoes · 08/09/2025 11:30

Tice - the putative chancellor if Reform comes to power - told Ed Balls this morning he’s not a tax expert. God help us.

Perhaps he gave advice to Rayner. Who would have known she'd be cosying up to "scum".

StandFirm · 08/09/2025 13:31

Bumblebee72 · 08/09/2025 13:27

There's plenty of countries that have trade agreements with the EU that aren't signatories to the ECHR. As a country we are hardly likely to give up on all human rights but leaving would enable us to define them ourselves, make it fit for the current world, and allow our judges to have the final decision.

Except if the same happens here as is happening in the US and our judges are in thrall to the government, then what recourse do we have as workers and citizens? The ECHR is a safeguard - especially needed when people like the Reform bunch are in power. Funnily enough it's always those types that want to remove safeguards...

hotelinfo · 08/09/2025 13:33

If Farage is elected as PM he will run for the hills (the hills being a US media career). Like he did the day after the Brexit vote.

"So Mr Farage, you have led the country to Brexit - what next, how can Britain seize all the wondrous opportunities you set out during your campaign.."

"Yes indeed this is a victory for the little man... As for me, I am resigning from UKIP and political life... Good luck little people...,"

Echobelly · 08/09/2025 13:33

For me, the main reason he has to go is that he's been doing things like writing evidence for the US government on how they should use trade deals to make us change our laws.

Yes, Mr 'Sovreignty We Must Be Allowed to Make Our Own Laws' is literally telling a foreign government that how it should force us to change our laws on free speech. Are these perfectly applied currently? No. Would you like to have the sort of 'Free Speech' laws that the current US regime would appove of? I sure hope not. Hypocritical treachery.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce9rzngd9k2o

His cosiness with the fascistic US regime is deeply concerning for our democracy.

Bumblebee72 · 08/09/2025 13:36

Goldenbear · 08/09/2025 13:26

I'm not discussing Labour, I'm discussing Reform and what they have to offer for the Economy to grow as that will have the most impact on people's daily lives.

Bringing in experienced people from the world of business rather than career politicians will help. Reducing regulation will help small businesses grow. Funding farms to grow food rather than wild flowers will help create jobs. A lower tax environment will encourage entrepreneurship. The 3 offers and your out policy on jobs will force people to work. There is more substance with Reform than there is with the Tories where the main thing we know about Kemi is she think the UK maturity pay is a bit too generous.

cardibach · 08/09/2025 13:37

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 13:28

People feeling safe to walk the streets will be at the forefront of voters' minds.

I feel safe to do that now. In cities, in London, in multicultural and (gasp) even areas with high numbers of Muslims and refugees. Why don’t you?
Yes, some areas of cities are probably not safe to wander carelessly about, but that’s always been the case. I haven’t heard Farage say much about dealing with the drugs and poverty that cause this.

lonelyplanetmum · 08/09/2025 13:38

Just to say that was good explanation from Goldenbear but there’s no point!

The vast majority of people just don’t understand the (rarely used) role of the ECHR and they certainly don’t understand basic data protection law.

The ECHR is there to protect the people from the State and help ensure that if your own state commits atrocities there is some recourse. The UK was the original driving force, British lawyers drafted the basic constitution and Winston Churchill was the key person pushing for it. The number of times there have been findings against the uk are teeeny tiny. In a country of +68,000,000 people there are just over successful four cases per year between 2012-2023 . In 2023 there was only one violation by the UK showing the continued downward trend. It’s an important safeguard in principle but not an impairment to anything in practical terms.

With Data P it is seen as some meddling EU interference, when in fact it’s is basic law with parallel UK provisions opted into by the Uk by choice to defend citizens rights. It’s very basic protection attempting to keep little individual peoples’ names, addresses, numbers and other personal data private when up against big companies misusing it. The people who object to it are often the sort of people who do paranoid shredding of their documents, yet object to DP which actually gives them control over who sees their data and the ability to make big organisations delete it when asked.

Bumblebee72 · 08/09/2025 13:38

cardibach · 08/09/2025 13:37

I feel safe to do that now. In cities, in London, in multicultural and (gasp) even areas with high numbers of Muslims and refugees. Why don’t you?
Yes, some areas of cities are probably not safe to wander carelessly about, but that’s always been the case. I haven’t heard Farage say much about dealing with the drugs and poverty that cause this.

You have a different experience to many women then.

Goldenbear · 08/09/2025 13:39

hotelinfo · 08/09/2025 13:33

If Farage is elected as PM he will run for the hills (the hills being a US media career). Like he did the day after the Brexit vote.

"So Mr Farage, you have led the country to Brexit - what next, how can Britain seize all the wondrous opportunities you set out during your campaign.."

"Yes indeed this is a victory for the little man... As for me, I am resigning from UKIP and political life... Good luck little people...,"

Exactly!

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/09/2025 13:40

cardibach · 08/09/2025 13:37

I feel safe to do that now. In cities, in London, in multicultural and (gasp) even areas with high numbers of Muslims and refugees. Why don’t you?
Yes, some areas of cities are probably not safe to wander carelessly about, but that’s always been the case. I haven’t heard Farage say much about dealing with the drugs and poverty that cause this.

So do I. Live in Perth now, multicultural city. Feels perfectly safe.

hotelinfo · 08/09/2025 13:40

Farage even admitted on Laura Kuensberg that none of Reform have any idea how to run a cabinet and they haven't even got any policies real anyway. Just a catchphrase "Stop the boats"

But never fear... he will now be drawing on the stunning cabinet aficionado that is....

Nadine Dorries.

Ffs.

cardibach · 08/09/2025 13:41

Bumblebee72 · 08/09/2025 13:38

You have a different experience to many women then.

Really? Or is it just what Farage and Co are fearmongering about? I mean, he was saying the other day that nobody would walk about the West End in jewellery after 9pm. Obvious nonsense. The place is full of people in jewellery coming out of shows and restaurants.

EasternStandard · 08/09/2025 13:42

hotelinfo · 08/09/2025 13:40

Farage even admitted on Laura Kuensberg that none of Reform have any idea how to run a cabinet and they haven't even got any policies real anyway. Just a catchphrase "Stop the boats"

But never fear... he will now be drawing on the stunning cabinet aficionado that is....

Nadine Dorries.

Ffs.

What did Labour run on? ‘Change’, toolmaker and smash the gangs. They still got in.

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 13:42

cardibach · 08/09/2025 13:37

I feel safe to do that now. In cities, in London, in multicultural and (gasp) even areas with high numbers of Muslims and refugees. Why don’t you?
Yes, some areas of cities are probably not safe to wander carelessly about, but that’s always been the case. I haven’t heard Farage say much about dealing with the drugs and poverty that cause this.

I certainly don't feel safe in one of my local towns. Then again, I do feel safer than living in my (former) city of birth - Birmingham.

TheNuthatch · 08/09/2025 13:43

EasternStandard · 08/09/2025 13:42

What did Labour run on? ‘Change’, toolmaker and smash the gangs. They still got in.

Yep.
Pin a rosette on a donkey etc

Trendyname · 08/09/2025 13:44

OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 13:56

Rubbish. He’s avoiding tax. She made a stupid mistake. Both in public life but massive levels of hypocrisy. He’s the leader of a political party lecturing everyone else on how they should live while taking the piss.

All politicians should live by the same standards. We are paying their bloody salaries.

So who is responsible for making him go?

Rayner resigned or was made to resign by party leader. Should Labour Party leader make Farage resign? You were ok to say it’s double standards if both Farage and Rayner were in Labour Party and Kier made one of them go.

cardibach · 08/09/2025 13:44

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 13:42

I certainly don't feel safe in one of my local towns. Then again, I do feel safer than living in my (former) city of birth - Birmingham.

Why though?
Incidentally I know Birmingham fairly well and most of it is completely safe to walk around. I think you may have allowed yourself to be scared by false rhetoric.
Edit: and how do you think Reform would make you feel safer? I asked that once already.

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 13:46

ReplacementBusService · 08/09/2025 11:50

Look! Look! Look over there at all those nasty immigrants coming over here on small boats and messing up the country for proud British people. Why are you worrying about a good British politicians tax arrangements when all those lot are coming here to rape our women and steal our jobs and force us to live under sharia law.

Shit, I might have sounded convincing there. Maybe I can get a job at GB News.

I doubt it. The jolt of hard reality would shock you. Best stay in the marshmallow land of the Guardian.

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/09/2025 13:49

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 13:46

I doubt it. The jolt of hard reality would shock you. Best stay in the marshmallow land of the Guardian.

GB News “reality”?
🤣
Heard it all, now.

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 13:51

MrsSkylerWhite · 08/09/2025 13:49

GB News “reality”?
🤣
Heard it all, now.

You carry on laughing. This thread is testament to how it's not only Starmer, running scared of Farage.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 08/09/2025 13:52

What are Labour supporters suggesting people do if they want controlled immigration, controlled welfare, curb woke identity ideology and reasonable taxes? Which most people do.

BIossomtoes · 08/09/2025 13:54

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 13:51

You carry on laughing. This thread is testament to how it's not only Starmer, running scared of Farage.

I don’t think there’s much running scared, more contemplating with horror. Having observed what the electorate collectively achieved last year, I have a certain amount of trust in it to do it again. Particularly if immigration falls and shoots Reform’s one trick pony.

Dangermoos · 08/09/2025 13:56

cardibach · 08/09/2025 13:44

Why though?
Incidentally I know Birmingham fairly well and most of it is completely safe to walk around. I think you may have allowed yourself to be scared by false rhetoric.
Edit: and how do you think Reform would make you feel safer? I asked that once already.

Edited

Being born in a city you've seen radically changed, is different to knowing it fairly well. Reform won't make white Brits feel ashamed of their heritage. Has it not sunk in, by now? Do you think the emergence of the flags is just a trend?