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Extremely hacked off by GP. Won’t prescribe Mounjaro

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Hakunatomato · 02/09/2025 09:57

I have been self funding Mounjaro for the past year, and have a debt on credit card because of it. As a result, my HBa1c has gone from 19 to 5.5. I have lost almost 5 stones, now down to 16 .stones so effectively I have put my diabetes into remission as a result. I can no longer afford it because of the price rises and have asked my GP to start prescribing it. Their response is that because my blood sugar is now nearly normal they won’t do it, despite me having a bmi of 46. When I finish the course I have I now have to watch my good work go in to reverse and watch my health decline. All for the sake of the £30 a week is would cost my GP at wholesale NHS cost. If I put the weight back on again and wait while my blood sugar levels rise and I will have to apply again. I am so pissed off.. The relatively small cost as opposed to what the bills will be when my Diabetes returns doesn’t make sense.

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Jaws2025 · 03/09/2025 11:04

AutumnOffGrid · 03/09/2025 10:58

Go to any WLI thread and you’ll read that you have to put in the hard graft of eating well, and exercising. It’s not just an injection and its drops off. That’s what MJ etc. users are saying.

WLI should be there to support your weight loss to bring you down to a level the other side of illness. It’s done that. You’ve lost 5 stone. You no longer have health issues. You should know how to carry on with your weight loss.

I lost 2.5 stone without WLI. I’m not against WLI and I support them to help someone make it to a better place. It took me 6 months. Along that journey I learnt how to eat healthily and exercise. I was hurtling toward diabetes type 2, I had high blood pressure, I was massively stressed out and had terrible menopause symptoms and anxiety.

I’m really sick of hearing “if I don’t get WLI on the NHS then I’ll just put it back on and cost the NHS ££££ so it’s better for the tax payer/ NHS if you give me what I want”.

This sounds like a toddler tantrum.

Over a year I probably spend a good few thousand on my health. If I don’t I’ll be 2.5 stone overweight, my blood pressure will be high, I will probably need HRT and some mood balancer and later in life I’ll cost the NHS more. Right now I’m not costing the NHS anything.

If you are no longer suffering from illnesses due to your weight, then you don’t qualify on the NHS. If you do, then the rest of us who are taking preventative steps for our health, should be entitled to this on the NHS too. That’s unsustainable.

So, the NHS can pay for my vitamins, my Ashwaganda supplements, my gym membership, my running club, my meditation sessions and my Pilates/ yoga classes.

Many of us are paying to have better health. Why should you have yours paid for by the tax payer?

People need to start taking more personal responsibility. Obesity is referred to as an illness. Well, with most other illness, once you are out of danger and recovered, you pretty much have to get on with it on your own.

The NHS actually paid for my Pilates classes, though a gym membership - this is part of a mental health strategy though you could get it for weight reasons too.
Needing HRT is nothing to do with your weight, you don't only go through the menopause if you're obese.

ExhaustedPigeon37 · 03/09/2025 11:06

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:55

I'm not the one making up shite, claiming it's in the leaflet, then running away when it's proved it isn't. You and your little friend can't back up your arguments.

I’m not running away at all, I’m just not spending the first day of having my children back to school arguing with you when you clearly want something handed to you on a plate with no hard work.

I have much better things to do such as going to the gym. As I’ve said, have a good day 👋

Zov · 03/09/2025 11:09

AutumnOffGrid · 03/09/2025 10:58

Go to any WLI thread and you’ll read that you have to put in the hard graft of eating well, and exercising. It’s not just an injection and its drops off. That’s what MJ etc. users are saying.

WLI should be there to support your weight loss to bring you down to a level the other side of illness. It’s done that. You’ve lost 5 stone. You no longer have health issues. You should know how to carry on with your weight loss.

I lost 2.5 stone without WLI. I’m not against WLI and I support them to help someone make it to a better place. It took me 6 months. Along that journey I learnt how to eat healthily and exercise. I was hurtling toward diabetes type 2, I had high blood pressure, I was massively stressed out and had terrible menopause symptoms and anxiety.

I’m really sick of hearing “if I don’t get WLI on the NHS then I’ll just put it back on and cost the NHS ££££ so it’s better for the tax payer/ NHS if you give me what I want”.

This sounds like a toddler tantrum.

Over a year I probably spend a good few thousand on my health. If I don’t I’ll be 2.5 stone overweight, my blood pressure will be high, I will probably need HRT and some mood balancer and later in life I’ll cost the NHS more. Right now I’m not costing the NHS anything.

If you are no longer suffering from illnesses due to your weight, then you don’t qualify on the NHS. If you do, then the rest of us who are taking preventative steps for our health, should be entitled to this on the NHS too. That’s unsustainable.

So, the NHS can pay for my vitamins, my Ashwaganda supplements, my gym membership, my running club, my meditation sessions and my Pilates/ yoga classes.

Many of us are paying to have better health. Why should you have yours paid for by the tax payer?

People need to start taking more personal responsibility. Obesity is referred to as an illness. Well, with most other illness, once you are out of danger and recovered, you pretty much have to get on with it on your own.

Barack Obama Applause GIF by Obama

Yes! Well said!

Zov · 03/09/2025 11:10

ExhaustedPigeon37 · 03/09/2025 11:06

I’m not running away at all, I’m just not spending the first day of having my children back to school arguing with you when you clearly want something handed to you on a plate with no hard work.

I have much better things to do such as going to the gym. As I’ve said, have a good day 👋

Good idea. Best not to engage.

usernamealreadytaken · 03/09/2025 11:18

KoalaKoKo · 02/09/2025 23:21

Honestly I am fed up of people who have normal working bodies that metabolise food at a normal rate commenting on how people should eat less or exercise more - all of us don’t have the same mechanics. I have metabolic issues - I put on 3 stone in 2 years without changing my diet and I think without these drugs I would have been at your starting weight within a year or two. I tried eating 1200 calories a day and nothing came off before mountjaro - I had skinny people/rude ah’s comment on how they were surprised I was so fit and assumed I didn’t walk places etc because people make assumptions about people without knowing their history.

I am not in a situation where I think I should qualify for free weight loss drugs but I think the 4 conditions is ridiculous especially if you only have one and it limits your quality of life or life expectancy. Having such a prescriptive formula is crazy, these drugs can change people’s lives - it shouldn’t be just for those who can afford it! For me it has helped me lose some weight but it has also healed the inflammation in my body, I no longer take probiotics for gastritis, my posture is better and I am developing muscles I don't think I could have before this. My gastritis seems to be gone, my thyroid is improved, my inflammation is down and my gyno pains are vastly reduced!

Without the inflammation I am also becoming a little addicted to my exercise classes because it is fun and doesn’t hurt! The pains I had monthly for suspected endometriosis are mostly gone - I wasn’t morbidly obese but I was heading that way despite exercise and diet so I 100% understand where you are coming from. Some people will never understand what it is like so the ‘Am I Being Unreasonable’ vote is irrelevant- they haven’t walked a mile in your shoes!

I once had a colleague rant about how fat people are lazy and have no self control as she ate an entire pack of biscuits - no joke - the girl barely moved but was naturally a 6-8! She was one of the laziest people I have worked with but said she would never employ a fat person! Some people will never know what it’s like to try so hard and be failed by your body! My issue is metabolic but other’s have issues with leptin which causes overeating- it’s all linked to chemicals in our diets that have messed up our microbiomes! Tell anyone who doesn’t understand to do one! You should get it on the nhs - it is an illness that if untreated will cost the government a lot more money!

Do you actually think that well over half of the population (largely in Western nations) has developed serious metabolic or endocrine conditions in the last 50 or so years? Or do you think (possibly more plausibly) that the internet means that more people can CLAIM they probably have a really serious condition which is actually a self-fulfilling prophecy? If you overeat and don't move enough, you'll likely develop a serious condition which means you have a “reason” for being fat?

usernamealreadytaken · 03/09/2025 11:23

Catladyof7 · 02/09/2025 23:59

So how come i have a 85 year old sister , never been more than a size 8 .
Eats man sized meals and i am talking big meals , dessert as well after dinner.
Breakfast , danish pastries , coffee, toast .
Lunch, sandwiches .
Mid afternoon ..cake / biscuits and more coffee.
Also drinks alcohol and has some chocolate and nuts and crisps …still a size 8 today
Loves cheese and eats the odd cream cake / doughnut

Luckily i hate cream, and doughnuts
.
How does that work ?
I dont eat that amount in two weeks .

Metabolism ‼️?
We are all different

If your 85 year old sister is eating more in a day than you do in two weeks, she is either making sure it exits her body one way or the other, or you are vastly exaggerating the amount she eats or underestimating the amount you eat, or both. Ridiculous exaggerations do not help any discussion.

Plumnora · 03/09/2025 11:31

I'm confused about your BMI... did you mean to say 36? If it's 46 now and you weight 16 stone you'd be around 4ft high...

usernamealreadytaken · 03/09/2025 11:38

MargoLivebetter · 03/09/2025 09:10

The laziness thing does make me laugh. It is so absurd. What makes you think overweight or obese people are lazy? Like so many other people with weight struggles I was a single parent working full time - hardly lazy person territory. Whilst being fat, I completed two five day SAS run expeditions in wild territory and did numerous sports. I am definitely not exceptional!!!!!!

Whilst on WLI, I was no less or more lazy than I ever had been previously. I simply do not understand the point you are making.

Please explain to me how you believe fat people are somehow more lazy than other people?

I thought my OP made it quite clear; laziness doesnt just mean moving a bit more - laziness is choosing convenience over effort. Working f/t doesn’t absolve you of the need to shop and cook proper food, if thats what it takes to keep your weight down. In these cases past, people worked longer hours with less help (tech or equipment) and did everything manually including cooking, and there were immeasurably fewer cases of obesity - life was bloody hard but people generally weren't fat. Our brains ow seem to be programmed to expect free time so we can cut corners and do less, which isn't making us healthier in general.

MargoLivebetter · 03/09/2025 11:47

usernamealreadytaken · 03/09/2025 11:38

I thought my OP made it quite clear; laziness doesnt just mean moving a bit more - laziness is choosing convenience over effort. Working f/t doesn’t absolve you of the need to shop and cook proper food, if thats what it takes to keep your weight down. In these cases past, people worked longer hours with less help (tech or equipment) and did everything manually including cooking, and there were immeasurably fewer cases of obesity - life was bloody hard but people generally weren't fat. Our brains ow seem to be programmed to expect free time so we can cut corners and do less, which isn't making us healthier in general.

Of course working full time and being a single parent doesn't 'absolve' me from home cooking - although I think it would be understandable if it had have done. I am a great cook, happen to love cooking and home cooked food from proper ingredients for my children. Both of whom are adults now and both of whom are slim, I should also add!

I do not believe that laziness is a cause of fatness or that fat people are more lazy than non fat people. I still do not understand the connection that you are trying to make.

usernamealreadytaken · 03/09/2025 11:51

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 09:24

The whole point of MJ is that whilst you are on it you create a healthier lifestyle. Eat healthy, do exercise, get fitter. You don’t use it just to lose weight and not change any habits.

No, that isn't the point of it.

Where are people getting this shite from?

Lots of medical publications

How do you maintain weight loss after taking Mounjaro?
To maintain weight loss after taking Mounjaro, you need to cement healthy eating habits and introduce other healthy habits to your lifestyle, like being more physically active, sleeping well, and engaging in leisure activities that you enjoy, such as accessing nature and socialising.
Mounjaro’s main action is to mimic the hormones GIP and GLP-1, which help us feel fuller for longer by communicating with the brain’s appetite control centre, the hypothalamus.
Healthy habits increase GLP-1 and GIP levels naturally and also lower circulating levels of the hunger hormone ghrelin.
After using Mounjaro, you can keep the weight off by managing your hunger naturally through healthy habits.
Recent research has supported the benefit of cementing healthy habits while taking GLP-1 medications.

Coming off Ozempic slowly could prevent weight gain, study shows

Patients could wean themselves off blockbuster obesity drugs such as Ozempic or Wegovy without piling the pounds back on, according to a scientific study.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2024-05-ozempic-slowly-weight-gain.html

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2025 11:52

usernamealreadytaken · 03/09/2025 11:18

Do you actually think that well over half of the population (largely in Western nations) has developed serious metabolic or endocrine conditions in the last 50 or so years? Or do you think (possibly more plausibly) that the internet means that more people can CLAIM they probably have a really serious condition which is actually a self-fulfilling prophecy? If you overeat and don't move enough, you'll likely develop a serious condition which means you have a “reason” for being fat?

There have always been a percentage of obese people amongst the wealthiest part of the population (Henry VIII, Emperor Vitellius, the women prehistoric fertility godesses were modelled on etc), because they had the genes or the metabolic/ Endocrine conditions alongside the access to calorie dense food. But until the past 50 years the majority of the population did not have access to calorie dense food regardless of their genetic makeup. Now everyone has access to high calorie diets and those who were unlucky in the genetic lottery are screwed. I see plenty of skinny, 'health weight' and just slightly overweight people eating utter Sh*t. It is a massive point of frustration and bitterness for me as I eat a healthy diet but due to bad luck I'm obese/ metabolic syndrome anyway.

Also, endocrine conditons that would have killed before can be managed now, for example pre modern treatments Cushing's Disease (high cortisol due to pituitary tumours) carried a 50% 5 year mortality rate. People just died 50 years ago. Likewise thyroid disorders which are supper common killed people at high rates in the past and we just take for granted that these people can just have levothyroxine and crack on with life now. I think the victorian term for these people was "a decline".

BadDinner · 03/09/2025 11:56

There was a time I could eat absolutely anything in almost any amount and not gain weight. I used to go out local bakery and eat an 8 portion gateau by myself in a day. Not a pound. I hated my straight up and down, curveless figure.

I ended up going to the doctor's in frustration at being a size 6 and not gaining any weight.

Interestingly said it's your metabolism. I needed to slow it down a bit by working out, preferably with weights.

I went up to a size 10, had a baby ballooned to a 14, breast fed went down to an 8. I was a smug bitch. Ohhh I can eat anything I like and not gain weight. I have to work to gain weight.

But then now have become chronically ill in my late 30s now at 50 a size 16 creeping to a 18, feeling crap most of the time, often too exhausted or sick to eat, yet cannot shift a single pound.

And guess what? I am receiving the 'have you tried just thinking positively and getting out there to the gym' comments from a couple supposed friends. Thankfully, I haven't struggled with my weight all my life so remember being fit, or my response would be to get extremely low. I cannot exercise without high inflammation afterwards and being stuck in bed. But no one cares they just look at you and make assumptions.

I used to have the narrative of well 'these fat people are well. They just need to cook from scratch and walk more'

Life has humbled me.

I was also metaphorically slapped into touch about GLP-1 receptor agonists by a nutritionist no less, who explained that Obesity becomes a disease when the body can no longer react appropriately to the normal chemicals that indicate satiety. It's ironically like food deafness whilst simultaneously giving out an amplified signal of hunger. There's also a shortage sometimes of the bodies production of the chemicals themselves that indicate satiety. You can have two diametrically opposed signals one silent, one loud going on in the body at the same time.

So I think these drugs are great as a tool to help and it looks like they could kill too birds with one stone. Help calm the inflammation associated with any underlying autoimmune illness that could be blocking a person from managing to increase their activity, and helping the body readjust and 'turn up' the satiety signal whilst 'dialling down' the food noise.

What perhaps the NHS would not do well is delivering the support to help a person taking these drugs continue to manage on a micro dose, or come off the drug.

But I think it ought to be like anything else. Strict criteria whilst the prescription is ongoing. So you must exercise, lift weights to maintain muscle mass etc, followed by a careful weaning off and a wait period to see if weight remains manageable. If not, a monthly micro-dose. If the person doesn't work out. Dropped from the program.

I admit my thinking about 'weight loss hacks' like supplements for weight loss and liposuction etc were influenced in part by the idea that you should 'work' for weight loss, and that I wouldn't be so special as a thin person if everyone else can be easily thin. Real nasty. I do think some people do have similar views.

I hope they never have a situation happen that changes how you present to world and get judged for it.

BadDinner · 03/09/2025 11:56

There was a time I could eat absolutely anything in almost any amount and not gain weight. I used to go out local bakery and eat an 8 portion gateau by myself in a day. Not a pound. I hated my straight up and down, curveless figure.

I ended up going to the doctor's in frustration at being a size 6 and not gaining any weight.

Interestingly said it's your metabolism. I needed to slow it down a bit by working out, preferably with weights.

I went up to a size 10, had a baby ballooned to a 14, breast fed went down to an 8. I was a smug bitch. Ohhh I can eat anything I like and not gain weight. I have to work to gain weight.

But then now have become chronically ill in my late 30s now at 50 a size 16 creeping to a 18, feeling crap most of the time, often too exhausted or sick to eat, yet cannot shift a single pound.

And guess what? I am receiving the 'have you tried just thinking positively and getting out there to the gym' comments from a couple supposed friends. Thankfully, I haven't struggled with my weight all my life so remember being fit, or my response would be to get extremely low. I cannot exercise without high inflammation afterwards and being stuck in bed. But no one cares they just look at you and make assumptions.

I used to have the narrative of well 'these fat people are well. They just need to cook from scratch and walk more'

Life has humbled me.

I was also metaphorically slapped into touch about GLP-1 receptor agonists by a nutritionist no less, who explained that Obesity becomes a disease when the body can no longer react appropriately to the normal chemicals that indicate satiety. It's ironically like food deafness whilst simultaneously giving out an amplified signal of hunger. There's also a shortage sometimes of the bodies production of the chemicals themselves that indicate satiety. You can have two diametrically opposed signals one silent, one loud going on in the body at the same time.

So I think these drugs are great as a tool to help and it looks like they could kill too birds with one stone. Help calm the inflammation associated with any underlying autoimmune illness that could be blocking a person from managing to increase their activity, and helping the body readjust and 'turn up' the satiety signal whilst 'dialling down' the food noise.

What perhaps the NHS would not do well is delivering the support to help a person taking these drugs continue to manage on a micro dose, or come off the drug.

But I think it ought to be like anything else. Strict criteria whilst the prescription is ongoing. So you must exercise, lift weights to maintain muscle mass etc, followed by a careful weaning off and a wait period to see if weight remains manageable. If not, a monthly micro-dose. If the person doesn't work out. Dropped from the program.

I admit my thinking about 'weight loss hacks' like supplements for weight loss and liposuction etc were influenced in part by the idea that you should 'work' for weight loss, and that I wouldn't be so special as a thin person if everyone else can be easily thin. Real nasty. I do think some people do have similar views.

I hope they never have a situation happen that changes how you present to world and get judged for it.

BadDinner · 03/09/2025 12:00

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2025 11:52

There have always been a percentage of obese people amongst the wealthiest part of the population (Henry VIII, Emperor Vitellius, the women prehistoric fertility godesses were modelled on etc), because they had the genes or the metabolic/ Endocrine conditions alongside the access to calorie dense food. But until the past 50 years the majority of the population did not have access to calorie dense food regardless of their genetic makeup. Now everyone has access to high calorie diets and those who were unlucky in the genetic lottery are screwed. I see plenty of skinny, 'health weight' and just slightly overweight people eating utter Sh*t. It is a massive point of frustration and bitterness for me as I eat a healthy diet but due to bad luck I'm obese/ metabolic syndrome anyway.

Also, endocrine conditons that would have killed before can be managed now, for example pre modern treatments Cushing's Disease (high cortisol due to pituitary tumours) carried a 50% 5 year mortality rate. People just died 50 years ago. Likewise thyroid disorders which are supper common killed people at high rates in the past and we just take for granted that these people can just have levothyroxine and crack on with life now. I think the victorian term for these people was "a decline".

Many thyroid sufferers most assuredly cannot take levothyroxine and just crack on now, although I completely get your sentiments!

ResusciAnnie · 03/09/2025 12:01

@BadDinner ’food deafness’ is a great way to put it.

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2025 12:02

BadDinner · 03/09/2025 12:00

Many thyroid sufferers most assuredly cannot take levothyroxine and just crack on now, although I completely get your sentiments!

They don't die though and that's the point, they live amongst us being judged as fat and lazy and lacking in willpower by ignorant people whilst doing their best to crack on with life.

MargoLivebetter · 03/09/2025 12:03

Great post @BadDinner . I think this is particularly illuminating:

"I used to have the narrative of well 'these fat people are well. They just need to cook from scratch and walk more'
Life has humbled me."

BadDinner · 03/09/2025 12:05

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2025 12:02

They don't die though and that's the point, they live amongst us being judged as fat and lazy and lacking in willpower by ignorant people whilst doing their best to crack on with life.

Yes♥️

usernamealreadytaken · 03/09/2025 12:07

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2025 09:37

Between 1.4% to 27% (depending on criteria) of people are found to have pituitary incidentalomas (tiny tumours) on post mortem, and 2-4% of people have Adrenal incidentalomas. These tumours have previously been discounted as incidental findings (hence the name) but it's starting to become apparent that they may not always be as inoccous as previously thought and could account for a significant proportion of the people that mumsnet and the rest of social media love to judge, belittle and preach "eat less, move more, use more willpower".

It's worth considering that even the medical establishment don't fully understand metobolic medicine, and that YOU certainly don't.

I had a friend with a pituitary tumour, who wasn't obese.

The incidence of pituitary incidentalomas which you've quoted found no significant differences in mean age, sex, or body mass index, so irrelevant to obesity - you're as likely to develop them if you're skinny as fat.

From what I’ve read, age is far more of a factor, along with smoking, in adrenal tumours.

Obesity is often a contributing cause of cancer; I can’t find any studies showing cancer as a cause of obesity, unless treatments for cancer and inability to exercise due to illness are counted.

SussexLiz · 03/09/2025 12:12

E11i0ttD · 02/09/2025 16:59

Basically people on weight loss jabs clearly just want to eat the same crap but less of it whilst also on medication that is doing who knows what to their bodies. If you can eat food without crap in on weight loss jabs you can do it without and if you can’t it’s pointless being on them in the first place.

Something of a sweeping statement.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 03/09/2025 12:13

I hope (without much optimism) that @Zov will read @BadDinner’s post, and may become a little more understanding of the complexities of obesity. I did try to awaken a flicker of kindness towards obese people like me yesterday, but failed.

Trendyname · 03/09/2025 12:18

Rallentanda · 02/09/2025 10:36

I don't think anyone using the word willpower has a clue that it's a largely meaningless moral construct, not, you know, an actual thing that you can magic out of thin air.

I agree. For will power to work, you need to have a well balanced life, no mental health issues, meaningful activities to keep your brain engaged, and a generic advantage. Some people are predisposed to have higher carbs cravings, e.g. DRD2 gene variation can cause lower amount of dopamine receptors in the brain causing carbs cravings.

Spidey66 · 03/09/2025 12:21

Unfortunately there is a shortage, diabetics can’t access it now so they have to ration it. It’s a victim of its own success.

User14March · 03/09/2025 12:35

MargoLivebetter · 03/09/2025 11:47

Of course working full time and being a single parent doesn't 'absolve' me from home cooking - although I think it would be understandable if it had have done. I am a great cook, happen to love cooking and home cooked food from proper ingredients for my children. Both of whom are adults now and both of whom are slim, I should also add!

I do not believe that laziness is a cause of fatness or that fat people are more lazy than non fat people. I still do not understand the connection that you are trying to make.

Those with less stressful lives, having money, access to healthcare, absence of mental illness or kids with mental illness & much privilege can be just as ‘lazy’/even more lazy but they’re generally not obese or even overweight. Look at the Mums at the preps in SW London & other affluent pockets for details - not all are gym rats.

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2025 12:35

usernamealreadytaken · 03/09/2025 12:07

I had a friend with a pituitary tumour, who wasn't obese.

The incidence of pituitary incidentalomas which you've quoted found no significant differences in mean age, sex, or body mass index, so irrelevant to obesity - you're as likely to develop them if you're skinny as fat.

From what I’ve read, age is far more of a factor, along with smoking, in adrenal tumours.

Obesity is often a contributing cause of cancer; I can’t find any studies showing cancer as a cause of obesity, unless treatments for cancer and inability to exercise due to illness are counted.

Pituitary tumors are rarely malignant for starters.

"Higher BMI and waist circumference, from early adulthood to the time of diagnosis, were associated with higher risk of pituitary adenoma." Cote et al 2021 This doesn't mean the tumour is caused by weight gain, it just means they've suffered in silence for a long time before diagnosis.

Cause or effect hasn't been established for obesity/ adrenal incidentalomas (also benign tumours), although there is a correlation.

Cushing's can cause metabolic syndrome with or without weight gain, so you can get skinny or normal weight patients with terrible metabolic markers.

Also not all pituitary tumours are the same, just because your friends didn't cause weight gain doesn't mean that others don't.

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