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Extremely hacked off by GP. Won’t prescribe Mounjaro

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Hakunatomato · 02/09/2025 09:57

I have been self funding Mounjaro for the past year, and have a debt on credit card because of it. As a result, my HBa1c has gone from 19 to 5.5. I have lost almost 5 stones, now down to 16 .stones so effectively I have put my diabetes into remission as a result. I can no longer afford it because of the price rises and have asked my GP to start prescribing it. Their response is that because my blood sugar is now nearly normal they won’t do it, despite me having a bmi of 46. When I finish the course I have I now have to watch my good work go in to reverse and watch my health decline. All for the sake of the £30 a week is would cost my GP at wholesale NHS cost. If I put the weight back on again and wait while my blood sugar levels rise and I will have to apply again. I am so pissed off.. The relatively small cost as opposed to what the bills will be when my Diabetes returns doesn’t make sense.

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Zov · 03/09/2025 10:00

Hotflushesandchilblains · 02/09/2025 23:02

Thanks @MsRumpole - its becoming increasingly clear that there are people on this thread more interested in putting the boot in than actually offering helpful or supportive advice. Seems to be happening more and more on MN these days.

PS - plenty of diabetic people are on MJ for the rest of their lives. Does not seem to attract the same degree of pearl clutching from the anti WLI brigade.

I find it laughable that you can't see the difference between someone NEEDING to be on a particular type of med for the rest of their life, (because of a health condition,) and someone CHOOSING to be on a med that they could quite easily stop, (but they don't, because they CBA to put the work in, make some effort, and take some accountability for themselves!)

No point in trying to debate with the weight loss injection fangirls. They can't even begin to admit that they may, just MAY be wrong!

I am also aghast at the posters suggesting the OP puts the cost of the weight loss injections on a credit card, or goes into her overdraft, or takes out a loan. Unbelievable, and shows how some people have been indoctrinated by the weight loss injections craze.

@ExhaustedPigeon37

So people expect to just lose weight and not create better lifestyle habits? Absolutely ridiculous! Everyone wants something for nothing and no one wants to actually help themselves! Maybe the OP should ask why and how they became so overweight at nearly 21 stone in the first place and look to address the issues rather than expecting the NHS to pick up the pieces!

100% this. 👏

Weepixie · 03/09/2025 10:00

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 09:24

The whole point of MJ is that whilst you are on it you create a healthier lifestyle. Eat healthy, do exercise, get fitter. You don’t use it just to lose weight and not change any habits.

No, that isn't the point of it.

Where are people getting this shite from?

Can you explain your stance on this please.

No, that isn't the point of it

BunnyVV · 03/09/2025 10:04

Hakunatomato · 02/09/2025 10:25

Thank you. I am expecting a hundred comments from people who know nothing about the mechanics of diabetes and telling me to eat less and be more active. I can see that you understand. To make such comments is akin to saying to an alcoholic well you have managed 3 weeks off booze, so we won’t help you until you become so unwell and have stage 4 liver disease.

This is absolute rubbish. Diet-managed T2 diabetes is the ONLY way to be in control of your long-term health. Not metformin. Not MJ.
control your carbs, test your blood with a finer prick test etc. It is that easy now your Hb1ac is under control.

NanFlanders · 03/09/2025 10:10

BunnyVV · 03/09/2025 10:04

This is absolute rubbish. Diet-managed T2 diabetes is the ONLY way to be in control of your long-term health. Not metformin. Not MJ.
control your carbs, test your blood with a finer prick test etc. It is that easy now your Hb1ac is under control.

Not always true sadly. My Type 2 diabetic DH eats minimal carbs (his dietician doesn't think he should cut any more out), takes lots of exercise and has lost a lot of weight. Numbers still going in th wrong direction and has had to increase his metformin and introduce other meds too.

BilbaoBaggage · 03/09/2025 10:15

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 09:24

The whole point of MJ is that whilst you are on it you create a healthier lifestyle. Eat healthy, do exercise, get fitter. You don’t use it just to lose weight and not change any habits.

No, that isn't the point of it.

Where are people getting this shite from?

The specific indication for Mounjaro in weight management is:
...as an adjunct to a reduced-calorie diet and increased physical activity for weight management, including weight loss and weight management, in adults with Body Mass Index (BMI) of.... Etc.

It is right there on the label that it is intended to be used as an adjunct to lifestyle changes, to help people to reset their relationship with food. People on the trials were given specific coaching on healthy changes. It is not intended to just 'jab and go'. If users do not make the necessary changes, once treatment is stopped, the weight will go back on again. That is also right there on the label.

justteanbiscuits · 03/09/2025 10:18

I get mounjaro off label prescribed by a consultant for an endocrine disorder. It works amazingly. But sadly I am facing huge issues actually getting it these days as the amount pharmacies can get for NHS patients has been limited :( Twice in the last few months I've had to skip a week because of no supply - and sadly this seems to be having a knock on effect that it's caused it to pretty much stop working. It really really sucks.

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2025 10:29

Zov · 03/09/2025 10:00

I find it laughable that you can't see the difference between someone NEEDING to be on a particular type of med for the rest of their life, (because of a health condition,) and someone CHOOSING to be on a med that they could quite easily stop, (but they don't, because they CBA to put the work in, make some effort, and take some accountability for themselves!)

No point in trying to debate with the weight loss injection fangirls. They can't even begin to admit that they may, just MAY be wrong!

I am also aghast at the posters suggesting the OP puts the cost of the weight loss injections on a credit card, or goes into her overdraft, or takes out a loan. Unbelievable, and shows how some people have been indoctrinated by the weight loss injections craze.

@ExhaustedPigeon37

So people expect to just lose weight and not create better lifestyle habits? Absolutely ridiculous! Everyone wants something for nothing and no one wants to actually help themselves! Maybe the OP should ask why and how they became so overweight at nearly 21 stone in the first place and look to address the issues rather than expecting the NHS to pick up the pieces!

100% this. 👏

Type 2 Diabetes is not a condition that one day you don't have then one day you do. It is a gradual thing that most obese people will be sliding towards (likewise the other markers of metabolic syndrome - hypertension, hypercholesterimia). What you suggesting is that they temporarily pause this slide and then, what, just stop taking the medication so the process can start again, can't you see how futile and damaging that would be to the body?
People who are on Mounjaro for T2DM are just the unlucky people who didn't have this option available to them soon enough. The people who are on Mounjaro for "weightloss" are the lucky ones who now have an incredible tool to be able to proactively manage their health.

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2025 10:33

justteanbiscuits · 03/09/2025 10:18

I get mounjaro off label prescribed by a consultant for an endocrine disorder. It works amazingly. But sadly I am facing huge issues actually getting it these days as the amount pharmacies can get for NHS patients has been limited :( Twice in the last few months I've had to skip a week because of no supply - and sadly this seems to be having a knock on effect that it's caused it to pretty much stop working. It really really sucks.

I wish I could get endocrinology to pay for mine, problem is that they can't pin down an exact diagnosis (just a whole lot of weird hormone levels), so can only advise me to try privately for obesity, but maybe one day. It certinaly gives me hope that they are funding yours for now.

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:34

ExhaustedPigeon37 · 03/09/2025 09:28

So people expect to just lose weight and not create better lifestyle habits? Absolutely ridiculous! Everyone wants something for nothing and no one wants to actually help themselves! Maybe the OP should ask why and how they became so overweight at nearly 21 stone in the first place and look to address the issues rather than expecting the NHS to pick up the pieces!

I'm getting "old man shouting at clouds" energy.

rosechamps · 03/09/2025 10:38

I don't want to be goady here but I don't quite understand the problem. You have made amazing progress on MJ and now you need to continue these behaviours without the drug, which I assumed was sort of "trained" if you will through being on the drug. It's not the drug that's improved your health and caused weight loss, it's the behaviour it's enabled you to do which has.
If it's the mental side of things, such as food addiction, well I used to have binge eating disorder and I overcame it completely by forcing myself not to give in to the cravings, and over months the "urge" just disappeared and the food noise went. I'm curious, is MJ not like that? Suppresses the urge long enough that it goes? In which case, can you not continue your amazing progress without it from this point on?

I have read some other comments and they do mention willpower and really isn't that what it comes down to? It's not easy by any means but it is doable, and I did do it, and over time my habit was broken and I now have a completely healthy attitude to food.

Paganpentacle · 03/09/2025 10:38

*Can't prescribe Mounjaro.
There- fixed it for you.
Your GP is subject to restrictions on prescribing... and not just Mounjaro.

Umbilicat · 03/09/2025 10:39

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:34

I'm getting "old man shouting at clouds" energy.

Well, I'm getting 100 per cent common sense

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:39

Umbilicat · 03/09/2025 10:39

Well, I'm getting 100 per cent common sense

Are you? Gosh.

ExhaustedPigeon37 · 03/09/2025 10:42

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:34

I'm getting "old man shouting at clouds" energy.

By the way got the “shite” information from the leaflet that comes with the MJ injections that I used to have because I wanted to use it correctly.

What is the point of MJ if it isn’t to help create a healthy lifestyle? Or are you another one of life’s wasters that expect everything to be given to you?

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:45

ExhaustedPigeon37 · 03/09/2025 10:42

By the way got the “shite” information from the leaflet that comes with the MJ injections that I used to have because I wanted to use it correctly.

What is the point of MJ if it isn’t to help create a healthy lifestyle? Or are you another one of life’s wasters that expect everything to be given to you?

Did you? Odd, as I can't see that anywhere. https://uk.lilly.com/metabolic/assets/pdf/mounjaro-patient-booklet.pdf

https://uk.lilly.com/metabolic/assets/pdf/mounjaro-patient-booklet.pdf

ExhaustedPigeon37 · 03/09/2025 10:46

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:45

What is the point of MJ then? You seem to completely avoiding the question!

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:50

ExhaustedPigeon37 · 03/09/2025 10:46

What is the point of MJ then? You seem to completely avoiding the question!

Read the leaflet (that you claim to have read). Take some responsibility for your own education and stop expecting everything to be given to you.

ExhaustedPigeon37 · 03/09/2025 10:52

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:50

Read the leaflet (that you claim to have read). Take some responsibility for your own education and stop expecting everything to be given to you.

Oh I have. I’m a very well educated person. MJ and other weight loss jabs are a brilliant tool for losing weight but they are not a miracle cure. You are absolutely deluded if you think it is!

Have a good day

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:53

ExhaustedPigeon37 · 03/09/2025 10:52

Oh I have. I’m a very well educated person. MJ and other weight loss jabs are a brilliant tool for losing weight but they are not a miracle cure. You are absolutely deluded if you think it is!

Have a good day

That's a weird way to say "I was wrong" but okay.

ExhaustedPigeon37 · 03/09/2025 10:54

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:53

That's a weird way to say "I was wrong" but okay.

Don’t twist my words 👍

Zov · 03/09/2025 10:54

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:50

Read the leaflet (that you claim to have read). Take some responsibility for your own education and stop expecting everything to be given to you.

You're really clutching at straws here trying to win the 'argument!' 😆

Zov · 03/09/2025 10:55

ExhaustedPigeon37 · 03/09/2025 10:52

Oh I have. I’m a very well educated person. MJ and other weight loss jabs are a brilliant tool for losing weight but they are not a miracle cure. You are absolutely deluded if you think it is!

Have a good day

This! ^

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:55

Zov · 03/09/2025 10:54

You're really clutching at straws here trying to win the 'argument!' 😆

I'm not the one making up shite, claiming it's in the leaflet, then running away when it's proved it isn't. You and your little friend can't back up your arguments.

AutumnOffGrid · 03/09/2025 10:58

Go to any WLI thread and you’ll read that you have to put in the hard graft of eating well, and exercising. It’s not just an injection and its drops off. That’s what MJ etc. users are saying.

WLI should be there to support your weight loss to bring you down to a level the other side of illness. It’s done that. You’ve lost 5 stone. You no longer have health issues. You should know how to carry on with your weight loss.

I lost 2.5 stone without WLI. I’m not against WLI and I support them to help someone make it to a better place. It took me 6 months. Along that journey I learnt how to eat healthily and exercise. I was hurtling toward diabetes type 2, I had high blood pressure, I was massively stressed out and had terrible menopause symptoms and anxiety.

I’m really sick of hearing “if I don’t get WLI on the NHS then I’ll just put it back on and cost the NHS ££££ so it’s better for the tax payer/ NHS if you give me what I want”.

This sounds like a toddler tantrum.

Over a year I probably spend a good few thousand on my health. If I don’t I’ll be 2.5 stone overweight, my blood pressure will be high, I will probably need HRT and some mood balancer and later in life I’ll cost the NHS more. Right now I’m not costing the NHS anything.

If you are no longer suffering from illnesses due to your weight, then you don’t qualify on the NHS. If you do, then the rest of us who are taking preventative steps for our health, should be entitled to this on the NHS too. That’s unsustainable.

So, the NHS can pay for my vitamins, my Ashwaganda supplements, my gym membership, my running club, my meditation sessions and my Pilates/ yoga classes.

Many of us are paying to have better health. Why should you have yours paid for by the tax payer?

People need to start taking more personal responsibility. Obesity is referred to as an illness. Well, with most other illness, once you are out of danger and recovered, you pretty much have to get on with it on your own.

BilbaoBaggage · 03/09/2025 11:01

RimTimTagiDim · 03/09/2025 10:55

I'm not the one making up shite, claiming it's in the leaflet, then running away when it's proved it isn't. You and your little friend can't back up your arguments.

Did you even read the link you posted? I quote: Your healthcare professional may prescribe Mounjaro together with a
reduced-calorie diet and increased physical activity:

It then goes on to describe the use in T2 and weight management.

See also:

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/mounjaro

Mounjaro | European Medicines Agency (EMA)

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/human/EPAR/mounjaro

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