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Friend helped herself to my birthday cake - is she ill or rude?

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Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 09:04

I had a birthday party as a fundraiser for a charity on Saturday. I invited all my favourite people plus a friend who has been behaving oddly and has been rude and abrupt recently.
We had a live band and planned a cold buffet during the interval. Timings were band started at 7pm, supper at 8pm then more music and dancing.
At 7.45pm the strange friend approached DH and told him some people were very hungry and the food should be served now! He explained it would be soon.
I took the covers off the buffet at 7.50pm. She happily dived in and filled a big plateful. At 8.45pm the band played happy birthday, I blew out the candles, and took out a knife to cut the (huge and beautifully decorated) cake. I went to fetch some napkins to serve the slices on. As I turned to the cake I saw SF pick up the knife and hack a big triangular slice for herself from the front. She made off with it to her table. We were all astonished and have been trying to understand why she thought this was appropriate behaviour.
For info she is 70, a highly educated professional, but socially awkward. She has been becoming increasingly impatient and anxious in cafes and hotels at meal times wanting to get in as soon as the doors are open and wanting to be served first. She sometimes takes other people’s orders if they arrive before hers eg a cappuccino
AIBU - yes she is unwell and you should be compassionate - no she was rude and behaving like a greedy toddler.

OP posts:
godmum56 · 01/09/2025 10:49

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 09:23

To be clear I had published the timings in advance so people knew food was at 8 pm. The cake was pristine until she hacked it.
I have challenged her before when she pinches my coffee but she is not at all self aware.

you are saying recently which to me is a red flag for illness. Not sure what you can do about it though. Do you know any of her family?

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 01/09/2025 10:50

Katherine9 · 01/09/2025 10:47

Wow, how unnecessarily rude of you. Others have questioned whether the cake was cut first by the OP or the lady in question.

I was trying to be helpful with my suggestion.

And it's clear in op that self indulgent greedy one, hacked away at the cake before op.
The buffet would likely still be available so not hunger.
Just as with other people's orders in restaurants/cafes, she knows what she wants and takes it, regardless of others.

nomas · 01/09/2025 10:50

LilaGnat · 01/09/2025 10:49

No need to be so stuck up. You may find it bizarre but many people 'liked' my post. I wasn't joking and ment what I said.

Yes, many of us get taught manners and install them keenly in our kids. At 70, being a bit naughty or selfish is perfectly ok. Imo.

No, it’s not. You can be naughty and selfish but don’t complain when no one invites you anywhere.

LilaGnat · 01/09/2025 10:50

Oftenaddled · 01/09/2025 10:45

I find this thread really depressing.

OP did a very valuable thing, running a fundraiser for her birthday. I've run them too and I suppose you do tend to cast your net wider, maybe invite more of a mixture of people. I appreciate them paying to attend.

Two minor incidents happen - nobody is hurt. An elderly lady (age is relevant here) behaves in a mildly eccentric manner, without obviously detracting from anyone else's enjoyment of the evening. It's the sort of behaviour that characterises advancing behaviour, neurodiversity. If you live in a community and engage with a variety of people, you'll encounter it.

OP, yes, you may have reason to worry about your friend's health and cognitive decline, and it was probably more obvious in a busy stimulating environment. If you know her family or closer friends, it may be worth liaising with them. If you care about this lady, a lower key chat and coffee might be helpful.

Everyone knows this wasn't conventional behaviour, but I don't see how that matters except as a window into the friend's cognitive state and wellbeing. Parties and big fundraisers aren't stress-free events for everyone, but they're meant to be a celebration. If you are celebrating with your friends, be good to them - don't see it as a test.

Lovely post x

LilaGnat · 01/09/2025 10:51

nomas · 01/09/2025 10:50

No, it’s not. You can be naughty and selfish but don’t complain when no one invites you anywhere.

Not everyone is that stuck up, thankfully. 😆

Ihateslugs · 01/09/2025 10:54

ComfortFoodCafe · 01/09/2025 09:06

I dont think she was unwell, sounds like she was hungry. Yabu to wait till nearly 8pm to serve food.

Gosh, I don’t think 8pm is later to serve a buffet at a party! I’m getting on a bit (66) but still go out quite a lot for meals which are often booked at 8pm. At a party like the OP described with a band, I would not expect the food to be served as soon as I arrived.

A 7pm start time means folk will arrive between 7 and 7.30, then be happy yo chat to friends, have a welcome drink and listen to the music for an hour or two. I’d he happy to have the buffet at around 9pm when the band have a break with the dancing then continuing until 11ish. The main event of the party is to celebrate something, not to have a full meal.

Knowing that I was going to a party or out for an evening meal, I might have my lunch a bit later so as not be be too hungry in the early evening.

I do tend to eat late now that I’m retired as my day starts much later than when I was working, it was 8pm last night when I had my tea!

nomas · 01/09/2025 10:54

LilaGnat · 01/09/2025 10:51

Not everyone is that stuck up, thankfully. 😆

It’s the people who think they should be allowed to be ‘selfish and naughty’ that are stuck up.

EmmaMaria · 01/09/2025 10:55

PinkyFlamingo · 01/09/2025 09:54

For the sake of all the people who haven't even bothered reading the OPs posts, the cake had not been cut when this woman decided to help herself!

And for the sake of the others who haven't read the thread it is recent behaviour.

Homegrownberries · 01/09/2025 10:55

I'd be very concerned about her if she was my friend.

MakeMineADietCoke · 01/09/2025 10:57

Your birthday party was also a charity fundraiser?

EmmaMaria · 01/09/2025 10:58

Homegrownberries · 01/09/2025 10:55

I'd be very concerned about her if she was my friend.

If she was my friend then I would be doing something proactive to see if she needed support or, you know, an actual friend. Not posting on Mumsnet to see how many people could slag her off as greedy, selfish, a complete bitch etc., etc.

But I guess I have different standards of friendship.

Enigma54 · 01/09/2025 10:58

Having read your post again OP, I think the red flags have been clear for a while.

How well do you know her family/ friends? Might be worth having a chat with them?

While her behaviour probably isn’t socially acceptable on the face of it, deep down, an illness may be brewing?

Bikergran · 01/09/2025 11:00

I am 72. In our day autistic spectrum disorders were rarely spotted, especially in females, unless they coincided with severe learning and/or behavioural problems. Intelligent people learned to mask and kind of fit in, often by excelling at academic stuff. This could be a reason for her "odd" behaviour. Perhaps if she has now retired, she is masking less, and one of her behaviours is a greed for food. I would accept that is how she is, but perhaps (if you can, depending how good a friend she is) you could gently say, if she takes someone else's order, that it's not very polite, reminding her of social niceties. Another possibility is that she is displaying signs of early dementia or Parkinsonism, which both can cause obsessive behaviour. Just keep a close eye on your cake!!!

Purplepepsi · 01/09/2025 11:00

A family member became very odd around food at early stages of dementia, eating a whole plate of cakes that were served for guests for example which progressed as their dementia did to just taking food off others plates. They were a very generous, proper and kind person before this and would have been unthinkable for them.

I would talk to a family member if you can. Dementia can be slowed now with medication.

OpheliaNightingale · 01/09/2025 11:00

@ Gosh, I hope she isn’t due to go to any weddings in the near future!

LittleBitofBread · 01/09/2025 11:02

ComfortFoodCafe · 01/09/2025 09:06

I dont think she was unwell, sounds like she was hungry. Yabu to wait till nearly 8pm to serve food.

Even if you're hungry, a competent adult should be able to hold off from hassling people about food and diving in early. Especially as it was made clear in advance when the food would be.Sounds like a case of issues with impulse control.

Shelly369 · 01/09/2025 11:03

OpheliaNightingale · 01/09/2025 11:00

@ Gosh, I hope she isn’t due to go to any weddings in the near future!

Or a child’s birthday party.

Kevinbaconsrealwife · 01/09/2025 11:04

My lovely auntie went like this…. It was dementia bless her x

housethatbuiltme · 01/09/2025 11:05

Someone cut and served our wedding cake while we where out taking pictures, (this was after dinner too so no one should have been hungry). We came in and most of it was gone.

Never even found out who it was that did it but it wasn't the venue (which makes sense why would they but apparently someone had told them we had asked for a knife, we weren't even their).

It even had a big 'do not touch' sign on (chef put the sign there, I thought it was over kill but apparently people DO need to be told and yet still did it anyway).

dizzydizzydizzy · 01/09/2025 11:05

CatHealy · 01/09/2025 10:14

Tell me about it! I think I have ADHD traits. The impatience of waiting for things is real. I get quite anxious. I never do what this lady does, but as I get older I anticipate it will get worse. With behaviours like this which are beyond your control you really hope that the people around you will laugh it off and cut you some slack (and a very large slice of cake!)*

*Unfortunately, I haven't found this to be the case. People just get annoyed and angry, which heightens your anxiety and, thus, the impulsivity.

I am actually diagnosed with ADHD and autism and don’t do this (yet!) but I would be incredibly fed up with waiting so long for food as I normally eat about 5. In fact it would probably put me off going to the party in the first place. If you think you have ADHD, it’s highly worth getting a diagnosis - I didn’t think I would bother taking the medication since I’m neither working nor studying but it has been life changing.

Caroparo52 · 01/09/2025 11:05

UANBU. Poor woman. People will comment and judge her unkindly because her behaviour is anti social

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/09/2025 11:05

Reading your update after my 1st reply - maybe she thought as been sung happy birthday it was help yourself

she didn’t know you were going to get napkins

Corfumanchu · 01/09/2025 11:06

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/09/2025 11:05

Reading your update after my 1st reply - maybe she thought as been sung happy birthday it was help yourself

she didn’t know you were going to get napkins

Especially as you put out a knife by it

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 01/09/2025 11:08

All the 'it's fine ' posters . Would you go up to the cake at a celebration at hack away at it, even when.theres other food?

Marmalade71 · 01/09/2025 11:09

She does sound rude, but I also feel sorry for her because she’s been invited to a party where, in truth, the host doesn’t like her. You speak with no kindness or concern about her. Maybe that’s not a fair reflection of your feelings but it’s the way your OP reads. FWIW I suspect a degree of quirky behaviour has always been there and it’s getting more pronounced in old age. But honestly, if you don’t like her, and don’t care about her, stop inviting her to things

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