To stop tipping?

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Like ever?

Everything is already so expensive and sometimes the people Im paying earn more than I do.

I know some people will say that if I cant afford to tip the hairdresser, I cant afford to go there and maybe that's true. But when my cut and colour is already £160, an extra 10% is a lot.

Last time I ate out, the server showed us to the table, then pointed out the QR code to order, then disappeared until she bought our food and pointed out the QR code to pay. We didnt see her again. Then when we paid, the app had the cheek to ask for a 20% tip!

Hairdresser gets one tip at Christmas.
If you’ve ever worked in hospitality you realise how much difference tips make. Sometimes it’s the difference between getting a bus home or a cab. Myself and two friends had great service the other day, the bill was £80 and we paid £30 each leaving a £10 tip between us. She was so sweet, she checked in case we had made a mistake.
If you don’t want to tip, don’t but it doesn’t mean the rest of us are frivolous with money. Unless the service is bad I will always leave something.
In your QR code scenario if they were polite and personable, I’d have given them a couple of quid. If it was a case of points at QR code, grunts and leaves then I wouldn’t.

I think restaurant staff should be tipped, but agree the example you gave was a bit much

I don't routinely tip. Things are so expensive now they've priced me out of tipping.

I hear what you are saying about poor wages. I've never worked in hospitality but have worked in shops and exactly the same, a tip would make the difference between walking or a bus home but shop staff dont get tips.

I had the same recently in a bar. Ordered through a QR code, was asked (before I'd been served) whether I wanted to add a tip for good service. How the heck would I know? I haven't had any service yet?

Or was it a pre-payment to get some kind of premium service?

Do I want to pay a tip for someone opening a screwcap bottle of wine and pouring it into a glass, and someone else carrying it to my table (without spilling it) and putting it in front of me. What service is there to pay for? It's not like they've cooked my steak as I requested, or paid attention to my allergies, or guided me in making my choice of drink. 12.5% was the minimum.

I get it in US where tips are part of the salary, but in UK everyone is on minimum wage. In some cities hospitality staff are paid more that staff working hard shifts in care homes (none of them ever get tips, beyond the odd box of chocolates at Xmas).

Agreed.
I’ve tipped when someone has been great and gone out of their way to do a good job but generally I don’t.
I hate the service charge restaurants add- me going there to eat out is part of the service. staff are paid at least minimum wage of £12.20 an hour- not the pittance they do in the states.
It pissed me off when uber asks if I want to tip- no I’ve already paid for the service i requested.
Hairdressers- prices are pretty high so I should expect a tip is included.

In the UK they must at least be on a living wage. Like so many of their customers who can barely afford the service they are paying for.

Tipping should only be for good service and given in appreciation not to boost pay.

YANBU.

I stopped tipping a few years ago. Tipping is outdated, divisive (If restaurant waiting staff get tips, why don’t fast food workers?), feudal and, in the era of the £12+ph minimum wage, completely unnecessary.

If you want to tip because you can afford it, regardless of attentive/good service, go ahead 😃

If you want to tip because the person was efficient/friendly/(insert your personal measure of value here), go ahead 😃

If the meal is a stretch financially (but good service/food), feel free to choose hoe much or if to tip 😃

If service/food poor to lousy, dont tip 😃

Only you know your financial situation and personal values. The server may be delighted or furious but that is on them. It doesnt mean you are a "good/bad" person. Their employer should pay them a fair wage and nobody should rely on tips. Annoys me that some businesses pay bare bones £ and expect Joe Public to make up the difference via tips 🤬

Yes but my point was that people say that various roles, such as waiting staff, are poorly paid so you should tip. My argument was that many other roles are paid the same but dont get tips.

Nope. I have never tipped and never will. People are paid for the work they do. We have a minimum wage. I earn minimum wage and not in a job that gets tips, so I don't buy the poverty reason behind tipping waiting staff, hairdressers etc.
If I wanted to earn more, I can retrain and look for a better paid job. So can waiting staff and hairdressers. Tipping is a middle class virtue signalling nonsense

I don’t really understand tipping in this country.
If, for example, you had a member of staff in a shop (who wasn’t on commission) and they spent a decent amount of time with you talking through and demonstrating various options of whatever you were buying (a friend of mine recently spent quite a while in John Lewis looking at multiple prams, with a staff member showing her how they folded, how they fit with the car seats, carry cot, what accessories came with each etc), you wouldn’t think to give them a tip. You might be very grateful, but you wouldn’t tip, presumably because that’s their job. But you’re viewed by some as cheap if you take the same view of waiters. The inconsistency irritates me.

I tip in restaurants, as its "the norm" but I have never and will never understand tipping in the uk!

There are so many poor paying, very difficult jobs that do not get tips but in some industries its expected and you are made to feel like the devil if you don't.

Why am I expected to tip my taxi driver but not my bus driver? My waitress but not my server in the shop? Or the person stacking the shelves? My hairdresser but not the person who just fixed my roof?

I just don't understand where the rule for which indusries "should" be tipped and which it isn't expected and would be happy for the whole tip culture to do one

Just because one job type doesn’t get a tip doesn’t mean that no one else should get one.
I have a couple of friends that don’t tip, their choice, doesn’t bother me but it seems to bother them more when I give something to the server. Whether they think I have more money than sense or they’re worried that it reflects badly on them, I don’t know.

I tip if service above and beyond, but increasingly it is service with a snarl, so on the whole no, as all jobs are at least minimum wage and why do we tip for some and not others. Restaurants are altering how they serve where they simply plonk food down with little interaction, hairdressers charge silly money in some salons, so no. Work should pay, not us paying extra so that employer's get away with paying just the legal limit knowing UC will step in!

I went on a day trip on a coach a few weeks back. I was at the front so could see people getting off at various stops. There was definitely a generational difference. Most of the older people gave the driver a couple of pound, I dont think anyone my generation did.

I agree with this. I just dont understand.

I only really tip by rounding up a resturant meal, so if it came to £38 I would leave £40 or if the service has been particularly good.
I always tip on holiday where people earn a lot less and are generally a lot friendlier than serving staff in the UK.
I don't tip hairdressers, bar staff etc and I would make a point of never tipping if I have been told to order via a QR code.

I think tipping should be for good service and shouldn't be automatic. Nobody should feel obliged to tip if they can't afford it.

The tipping culture in the UK has never been as bad as in the US. People are supposed to be paid enough so that tips are a welcome extra - not something that staff have to rely on to make ends meet.

I'll happily tip if eg I've been out for a meal, the food was good and the servers were friendly and helpful.

On the other hand, I've just got back from holiday and was in transit at a US airport. I went to Starbucks for a takeaway coffee and was asked if I wanted to add a tip. That seemed completely ridiculous.

But why should some jobs get tips and others not? Its like society decided certain jobs are worthy of tips and others aren't, but there doesnt feel to be any sense to it.

I only tip for excellent service.

As PP have said, why is it expected for some minimum wage jobs but not others?

I really hate tipping. Why should I tip someone for just doing their job? Their literal job that they are being paid for is to bring me my food and drinks. What am I paying the extra for? Not forgetting me? Not being rude to me? Not chucking my dinner at me?! I appreciate that they don't often earn a great deal, but that's the same for a lot of people. I don't tip call centre staff for not shouting insults at me, or construction workers for not throwing stones at my car as I drive past. All are doing their jobs, and all get paid to do it - they shouldn't get extra for not being shit at it.

And also, why is it a percentage anyway? Is it really that much harder to bring out a sirloin steak or halibut than soup or coffee?

Yeah, hate hate hate tipping. Would happily ban it entirely if I ruled the world.

I don’t tip hairdressers etc.
I don’t tip in Wagamama type places.
I do tip in restaurants where you have a server who does do the traditional serving role and does it well - I can’t remember ever not tipping, but I would not if service was terrible.

Tipping culture in terms of poor wages in the UK isn’t a thing in my opinion - because there are millions of people on the same minimum wage who aren’t in tipped positions (admin etc). This is something that has been lost in translation from the states, where servers in tipped positions are paid far, far below a minimum wage because the expectation is that their wages will be topped up by tips (and they’re taxed as though those tips have been earned). This doesn’t happen here. Yes serving staff are on minimum wage but it’s the same minimum/living wage that many others are on too.

I rarely tip, if ever. I've never tipped a hairdresser.

I only tip hairdresser and in restaurants now. I spend about £60 per week on taxis and decided to ditch my usual 10% about 4 years ago as I work it out as £300 per year.