To stop tipping?

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Like ever?

Everything is already so expensive and sometimes the people Im paying earn more than I do.

I know some people will say that if I cant afford to tip the hairdresser, I cant afford to go there and maybe that's true. But when my cut and colour is already £160, an extra 10% is a lot.

Last time I ate out, the server showed us to the table, then pointed out the QR code to order, then disappeared until she bought our food and pointed out the QR code to pay. We didnt see her again. Then when we paid, the app had the cheek to ask for a 20% tip!

But did you appreciate the sentiment from the giver of the tip and accept it or reject the tip/donate it to colleagues or a charity?

Or did you not see why you were tipped because you weren’t very good 😂

I stopped tipping g hairdresser years ago. She’s a top stylist and does the wash etc too so no low paid juniors involved. I am a repeat customer of many years so that’s my appreciation. I rarely tip in restauarants unless someone has been really good.

No of course I appreciated it.

And to answer your other post, I don’t mean that I didn’t see why I was tipped, more that when I worked in a supermarket, or particularly when I worked in a shop, I generally spent more time actually helping a customer, so it didn’t really make sense that it would be weird to tip there. Obviously helping a customer was just part of my job. But so was taking orders and bringing food.

They will have had to of done something amazing for me to tip. Things are to expensive to add tips on. They get a wage

What gets my goat is being asked for a donation when paying for something in Poundland! I mean, if you go in there you want cheap. Seems so odd. Wonder if should switch to asking in designer stores instead .

Yep, at many events in London during my 20s and was occasionally tipped. Was there a point to your question, btw?

Yes, the point being did those who previously worked in hospitality accept the tips or refuse them on the basis that they don’t agree with or give tips.

I accepted, of course, because most of the time, when I wasn’t tired (I had a day job), I was really good at what I was doing and who doesn’t like money? It helped that half the time I was working at some exclusive events. But actually, the bigger rewards were receiving the occasional compliment.

You do say that you tip good service so you’re not really a non tipper. I don’t understand if someone accepted/accepts tips from their job and now doesn’t tip how they square that with themselves as it’s somewhat hypocritical.

I said in an earlier post that I tip when the person goes above and beyond in that job, as I sometimes did when I worked in hospitality for years. But I rarely get great service in the UK, so I generally don’t tip.

"we have a legal minimum wage in the uk and if we're saying it's not enough for waiting staff then it's not enough for anyone on it, so we either tip everyone or no-one"
This.

By this logic, if the OP spends £100 on grocery shop in Sainsbury's (easily done for an average-sized family) she can afford to leave a few pounds to tip the cashier. Or just pay a few pounds into the till on top of her receipt. Or just give a fiver to someone next to her in the queue. Why not? She can afford it so she can just give her money away to someone else who would like some.

Right?

Hospitality - yes. I factor a tip in to the cost of the meal.

My hairdresser - no. She already gets paid a good hourly rate.

Yes, having someone take a moment to speak to you and recognise what you may have done is above average expectations of service is often much more satisfying than a few quid.

I tip on the rare occasions I go out, it's not often and I can't afford to be overly generous, but I always make a point of treating the people doing the job decently regardless.

I have no idea why some service jobs attract tips and others don't. I worked in care, not allowed to accept money of any description other than your wage and gifts are shaky ground as well, and I think we all know that minimum wage, however you earn it, isn't enough to live on. That's why top ups with UC etc exist.

Tips by and large (or should be) are added to income and taxed and taken into account with income, so the very pale silver lining if you're dead set against anyone recieving tips could be that it saves a little in top up benefits and adds a little in tax revenue. I earned £1000 more than my annual salary last year from tips, very welcome but never demanded or expected (me personally), that's £1000 more I paid tax on and for someone claiming benefits £1000 less they would potentially receive if they didn't receive them.

In all honesty though I'd not be that bothered should tipping be banned, people are very down on hospitality and it's staff in recent years and this whole tipping malarkey does seem to just give disgruntled people another stick to beat you with!

I have an issue with tips generally tbh. You’re either good enough to do your job or you’re not. There are many underpaid professions who don’t get tips no matter how much effort they put in, but certain professions it’s just expected every time.

Guilt shaming people in the current economic climate is pretty scummy and will lead to non returning customers.

I've never understood this way of thinking... Why are you even saying you will pay extra just for getting good service? Shouldn't you expect good service as standard?! You're already paying a premium.

If I'm paying £20 for a fish and chips in a pub, I expect them to at least be nice to me whilst I'm getting fleeced.

I am massively against tips, because I think it encourages poor wages. Id rather the business put a £1 more on each main.

Im also horrified at the grabby entitled check of some businesses. Poundland asks if you want to tip (no idea what for), hungry horse app asks if you want to tip.. theyre just the two that annoy me most.

That said I will tip if someone has done something beyond the service theyre paid for. For example if my taxi driver gets out the car and helps me bring in heavy items, or get luggage out on an airport run. Basically if the treatment is better than the service I paid for id consider a tip but only then

Tonight I went to the cinema with a friend . I was asked if I wanted to add 2p to my ticket costs for charity . WTF. I was shocked in the sense that what good is 2p to anyone and there is nothing anymore where you aren’t asked / expecting money over and above the cost of the services .

A whole 2p? Shocking!

Why should restaurant staff get a tip but not people working in McDonald’s or kfc? Why should a taxi driver get a tip but not a bus driver? Why should the hairdresser get a tip but not the shopkeeper or shelf stackers or road sweepers?!

Yes, I worked in bars, nightclubs & pub restaurants when I was a student. I did receive tips and I was grateful for them. But I was also very aware of how horribly unfair & divisive tipping was. Pretty young waitresses would do very well, older male bartenders would get much less and the poor kitchen porters who worked harder than anyone in the worst job in the industry got bugger all.

This was before the introduction of the minimum wage, so wages in the industry were very low. I recall being paid £1.95 per hour in 1991, which is around £4.50 in today’s money. Now, the minimum wage is £12 per hour which is a multiple of what I earned back then in real terms. That’s why I stopped tipping several years ago. Because it’s still just as unfair, as many others have pointed out, but it’s also now unnecessary.

No tips in the U.K. too expensive already. I never see anybody making an effort let alone lately with the attitude and laziness of younger generations. I only give a cash bonus to my cleaner once a year and pay for the service at restaurants if included.

Yes, I did. I was on £2.50 an hour in 1991 - worth about £6.86 today. Minimum wage didn’t exist then. I’d much rather have had minimum wage than been at the mercy of the moods of great British public

OK but why do the hospitality workers deserve tips more than elderly care assistants for example? Both can work unsociable hours for your taxi scenerio

Im not saying that they are more deserving. I’ve not been in a position where I have needed the services of elderly care assistants but I’m sure if I did that they would get a generous tip at Christmas, just like my hairdresser, the bin men and the postie.