Since when?

[McSteamyorMcdreamy]

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My DD starts year 7 next week. Local secondary. Nothing fancy.

She and we are respectful of uniform policy and have purchased everything we need to. She looks bloody smart and we (and she) can't wait for her to start.

As 11 year old girls will do, they have tried their whole set up in front of their friends and all of them said the same thing:

"You will get sent home with those shoes"

They throw detentions out for the most minor of uniform infractions and DD is now having a massive anxiety spiral that she's going to get a detention or worse sent home 1st day because of her shoes.

I spoke to a friend who works in the school office and showed her a picture and her response was "oooh, I'm not sure. Air Force 1s are the best way to go"

Since when have trainers been a smarter, more acceptable form of shoe than a patent loafer??!!!

For full disclosure she has chosen the Kickers Edie loafer as in the link

https://www.kickers.co.uk/adult-women-edie-loafer-patent-leather-black/14913640.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UK+-+Kickers+-+Search+-+Brand+-+Core+-+Broad&utm_term=kickers&utm_content=brand+-+Kickers&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20162340688&gbraid=0AAAAADiNwZXHWpJ1LFmAfTE2drVjkEy8k&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwsrFBhD6ARIsAPnUFD1w_j6Ufhx1cfFv1a1fF0Ageht-fZYRGu_xo9ofOilAOdjE7KgGjEgaAoLrEALw_wcb

This school stipulates that hair past chin lemgth needs to be in a ponytail with a hair band that is the closest colour to the individuals hair colour, yet believes that a trainer is smarter/more acceptable than the loafer.

AIBU here?! I know trainers are more acceptable these days but are they really considered smarter considering how rigid they are on the smaller items?!

I work in many secondary schools and only 1 allows trainers like air force 1. None of the others allow trainers or even shoes that are classed as trainers.
Many of the schools line them up on the first day and do a uniform check. If they are wearing shoes that are not allowed they are usually get given 1 week to replace with correct ones.

The kickers you linked would be unacceptable as the large heel is just not practical and could be a health and safety issue with stairs and so many kids moving around at lesson change.

Some of our schools send photos of acceptable shoes, have your school
not done this on their uniform list?

The heel is too high. It’s not good for them to be wearing high heels to school.

I see you're going to buy your DD different shoes OP, which I think is a good decision. I'm old fashioned, but the original shoes don't look like a school shoes to me. They've got a silver bar across the front (would have broken the uniform code at my school) and they're far too high. If the school's uniform policy says 'no high heels', they mean flat shoes.

@McSteamyorMcdreamy what don't you get? The kickers are described as adult shoes with a heel so why did you think they were acceptable? They weren't described as school shoes, they were described as adult shoes in the link.

https://www.kickers.co.uk/youth-womens-tovni-lacer-leather-alternative-patent-leather-black/13891569.html

My dd got these and she's going into year 9 now.

Whilst those shoes heels are too high ( not necessarily my opinion because I wore similar height heels myself but from age 14, but just because I am yet to come across any school, not even the local hippy,dippy one near me that allows all sorts that will allow heels/block heels that high) the policy doesn’t appear to say the shoes must be AF1, that’s just what the friend advised/suggested.

I wouldn’t put my child in AF1 for school I don’t even like them in general but surely the happy medium is a similar style shoe but with less heel, so a flat loafer which is smarter than AF1 but not high to the point of breaking the rules

To be honest, I'd rather dd didn't even wear a loafer. I've yet to find one where you don't have to grip to keep it on, which is not great when you've got a long walk to school and back.

I agree. My DD has chosen these to go into year 7, but she has no real interest in being ‘cool’.

https://www.clarks.com/en-gb/eris-pure-youth/26184963-p

Those are adult shoes for an 11 year old?!?! Seriously bad for her back, pelvis and body generally to wear something like that all day every day!!

Wish mine didn't! I want her in dms. Either the mary janes or brogues, but she won't.
Ah well. Not my ankles.

If i had my way, I'd allow boots in winter and trainers in summer.

Good thing the school are more concerned with children’s comfort and safety as some of the parents clearly aren’t!
your child is 11 op!! Not 19 !!!!

Our high school is v strict on uniform, but allow/encourage all black trainers as they are comfortable and supportive for all day wear etc.

They would not allow the heel on those.

I hate to tell you, but these are actually cool and very popular in lots of groups of teens.

Im not saying she is deliberately trying to be uncool 😂, she just has no interest in whether her shoes are cool or not. She just chose these ones she liked. Neither of us will actually be sad to hear that they are actually cool!

Those are unlikely to be accepted i think , too high and obviously a 'fashion' shoe.
Trainers as long as they were all black were accepted at my kids school, even though trainers they looked much more like school attire suitable than your daughters shoes.
I wouldn't even risk it as secondary schools are nut jobs about uniform in general but a lot more so at the start of a new school year.

Just read she's not wearing them.

I hope she settles in well , now the fun begins ,just wait and see what ridiculous things the school will find to moan about !

I’d say ‘is it the heel?’ too!

They are too high and will therefore be deemed ‘dangerous’.
The school allows a maximum height of one inch and the heel on these are 2.5, so yes, she will probably be sent home!
We wore these in the 90s for school and me and my friends all had foot pain and twisted ankles so she would be better off with an all black trainer!

I don’t think the school think trainers look smarter, but less likely to twist her ankle in a pair of flat shoes or trainers though.

Looks like the heel is the problem!

Oh no. They are definitely not acceptable. Don't forget she'll be walking around moving from classroom to classroom. She won't be able to walk in them all day. Her feet will be killing her.
My daughter's school wouldn't even allow them to wear patent leather shoes.
Can't you buy others more suitable? She'll only be at school for 6 hours. She can wear them after she comes out of school.
Look at Clarke's

Oh @McSteamyorMcdreamy you are in for a world of pain if you try to apply any common sense where English secondary school uniform policy is concerned.

Teachers are absolutely out of control and on a massive power trip on this. It’s actually quite frightening. No, sick and weird. Very dark.

The children are bullied, controlled and demeaned and every bit of individuality is stamped out of them.

Good luck. Your choices are to submit utterly or accept nonstop detentions and “negatives”. Or emigrate to a country where they haven’t utterly lost their minds and actually focus on the things that matter. Ie. the learning and developing bit…

You do also know, don’t you, that your daughter most likely won’t be allowed to go to the toilet during lessons even if she’s on her period and needs to change her pad. And they may ring you at home demanding an explanation if she has a viral illness lasting more than three days. Etc. etc. Mad and so stupid.

Or they might just think that 2.5 inch heels aren’t suitable for an 11 year old with still growing feet to walk around in all day.

If only! There is nothing child-centred about English secondary school policies. It’s all about power and control.

Love them and pretty sure I had them 19 years ago! They’re too high though I expect.