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Would you stay in the cellar or in a hotel room

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Cellarorhotel · 30/08/2025 18:06

Dh and I have distanced ourselves from his family for various reasons but we now have a newborn (5 months old in december) and it is his grandfather's birthday in December. He is 93 so likely to be his last. He has always loved his grandchildren and is very excited about any great grandchild. MIL (his daughter) has 4 kids and 3 kids plus partners will be there including us

There are 3 bedrooms plus a cellar where there is a sofa bed. Bedroom 1 is for DH's grandpa, MIL shares a room with single daughter. So last bedroom up for grabs. The last time we were there 2 years ago during fhe same time, it was occupied by sister no 2 and her fiancee. DH's married sister and her husband plus her MIL plus 1 year old stayed at a nearby hotel in 1 room (don't ask me why her MIL tagged along).

We usually book a hotel room but in my early married years we stayed in fhe cellar. I didn't mind it as we were young and skint and didn't have a baby. However that was only for 1 year as we always had enough money that we didn't think much of booking a local hotel for 2 weeks. We had a 6 figure household income and our mortgage was 2% and we went on loads of holidays.

However I have been on stat maternity pay and dh is worried about his job (so worried he is spending lots of time looking for one). Baby is very attached to me so i plan to find a new job where it is easier to fit around childcare and also want to be at home for 9 months. We have a mortgage (1282 for our london flat) and it's been expensive with a baby. We have around 37k in savings but a lot of that is earmarked for the future . Also dh sister is getting married next month so we are also spending money on hotels for that.

Logically we should just stay in the cellar but I remember it being cold (dh says its heated, I only remember it being cold cos the floors are made of stone and I don't wear socks in the house- the steps in that house are really steep so I am never sure why dh wears socks). Dh's family aren't the easiest either, as you can see, given we probably have to stay in the cellar with a baby. Dh asked his mum and she said well your sister is staying in fhe bedroom. At that time her partner was only the boyfriend and he refused to stay in the cellar hence why the other sister with the one year old baby had to stay in a hotel (which i think she could only afford cos the MIL and her went halves). I find being a new mum stressful, the idea of doing night feeds and all with them around is causing me anxiety so much so that I almost want to volunteer to stay in the cellar but yet I am worried about health impact on my baby. It is a converted cellar but mainly used for storage.

It's also over Christmas so an overall expensive time to book hotels..

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Dancingdance · 31/08/2025 06:42

Cellarorhotel · 30/08/2025 21:03

We are going for 11 days. The family usually stays for 2 weeks to a months. It's structured around his birthday but no one goes for the day. It's in Europe for a start.

They always say they are going for his birthday but they seem to stay from late November to early January.

Edited

Why are you staying so long when it doesn’t sound like much of a holiday? Change your flight to one night (hotel for one night) so you can see great grandad and then go home. Save the money for other things.

Namechangeforthis88 · 31/08/2025 06:49

It was a false economy to buy cheap flights without having worked out affordable accommodation.

If you can change the dates you could halve the cost of the hotel.

Never mind what everyone else does. You're going to need to grow a thicker skin with things like this now baby is here.

R0ckandHardPlace · 31/08/2025 06:55

Are you just salty because SIL gets the other bedroom and you think you’re entitled to it because you’ve got a baby? Or do you expect MIL to pay for half your hotel too?

GoldDuster · 31/08/2025 07:01

So much going on here, but I think you've got a couple of choices, if you don't want to sleep in a cold cellar. (Plenty of people with spiral staircases have babies and no central heating).

Change the flights to somewhere you actually want to and can afford to go as a family holiday next year, tell them that you don't want to sleep in the cellar and can't afford to pay for a hotel for 11 nights so won't be joining this year.

If you actually want to go to visit family that you're distant from and seemingly have next to no relationship with in order to have a conversation about who's sleeping where for 11 nights, look for an AirBnb and take it out of your savings.

chunkybear · 31/08/2025 07:06

11 days! This year I’d be staring over night only, unless the other siblings pitch in for some money towards the hotel considering they’re all rent free!

R0ckandHardPlace · 31/08/2025 07:17

chunkybear · 31/08/2025 07:06

11 days! This year I’d be staring over night only, unless the other siblings pitch in for some money towards the hotel considering they’re all rent free!

I agree that 11 days is too long, but why the hell should the siblings pay for a hotel because OP’s DH chose to move away??

Wiltingasparagusfern · 31/08/2025 07:18

If flights are still cheap, I’d book a new one, go, but spend four nights max in a hotel. Absolutely no way I’d have spent Christmas in a cellar with a newborn. It’s RSV season, we had a chilly flat and two winters of crackly breathing/needing oxygen treatment at the hospital, so maybe I’m more uptight than most. But a dry warm room is pretty much a must for a baby. Your SIL sounds selfish.

Summerbay23 · 31/08/2025 07:24

Yes, if flights are still cheap I’d get new ones and only go for 3 nights. Or I’d probably cancel if only losing £150. Depends how comfortable the cellar was though. 11 nights in a hotel sounds pretty expensive.

Doingmybest12 · 31/08/2025 07:26

I wouldn't go over Christmas , book early new year for a 4 day trip and stay in a hotel.

bumbaloo · 31/08/2025 07:29

BoldBlueZebra · 30/08/2025 18:47

Sorry I can’t get past the 6 figure household income and only 37k in savings.

Depends how long 6 figures have been earned for and how much they spacing property. If in the southeast property will make that 6 figures disappear v fast.
They also went on nice holidays

bumbaloo · 31/08/2025 07:34

FreyjaOfTheNorth · 30/08/2025 23:56

Remind us again how much you earn, what your mortgage is and how much you have in savings? This time a bit louder for the people at the back.

Jesus wept. Imagine earning six figures but being unable to decide whether you can afford a hotel or not. And having to ask strangers online what to do.

Jesus weeps that people online can’t see that earning 6 figures for 2.5years with months in op being unemployed, maternity leave, overpaying a mortgage by 30k, paying off student debt and concerns about dh losing his job means it’s very reasonable that the OP wouldn’t want yo necessarily book a hotel for 11 days in peak Christmas season.

You do realise 6 figures can be 100k not just 850k don’t you. Add overpaying a mortgage and maternity and laying off debts doesn’t actually leave you living like Bezos.

Muffinmam · 31/08/2025 07:48

Don’t go.

A cold, damp cellar is not healthy for you or your baby’s lungs.

tripleginandtonic · 31/08/2025 08:05

NeverDropYourMooncup · 30/08/2025 23:54

You've got thirty seven grand sitting in the bank after paying a massive wodge off your mortgage and an entire student loan, pay less for mortgage than most people on forty grand pay for rent and got a great bargain on flights, making them cheaper than a train ticket from London to Penzance.

Just book a hotel.

This.

Cellarorhotel · 31/08/2025 08:24

Yamamm · 31/08/2025 04:55

I’d stay in the cellar for a few days if sister won’t agree to swap. I’m sure an oil filled radiator can be dug up from somewhere and you can wear slippers. (That ‘problem’ was the easiest one to sort.)
People camp with babies. Is it somewhere like Sweden or somewhere like Greece?
Hotel for the remainder. Or change flights so it’s only 4-5 days. Is it because you need to cover birthday plus Christmas?

It was the flight prices and those days were the cheapest.

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Ophy83 · 31/08/2025 08:25

The cellar would definitely be a no with a baby. If no one else will swap (presumably because they consider it unsuitable for adults, let alone a baby) I would either book a hotel or airbnb/holiday let. The latter may be more suitable for 3 of you for 11 days. But if there is nothing at all that is suitable I would just stay home - the cost of the flights is minimal, and it's the sunken cost fallacy to stick with the plan just because the flights are paid for

Cellarorhotel · 31/08/2025 08:26

R0ckandHardPlace · 31/08/2025 07:17

I agree that 11 days is too long, but why the hell should the siblings pay for a hotel because OP’s DH chose to move away??

MIL was the one who moved to a new country (uk). MIL is European. Dh actually is a 4th generation londoner, 2 of his sister have moved to new countries (different countries from grandparents).

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GabriellaMontez · 31/08/2025 08:30

Youve distanced yourself.

But now youre staying 11 nights.

That sounds like a recipe for disaster. Id change to 2 nights and stay in a hotel.

deeahgwitch · 31/08/2025 08:30

whitewineandsun · 31/08/2025 00:35

11 days in a cellar with a baby and in a house with people you're distant from? I'd book the hotel and deal with the credit card later. No contest, none.

I agree

R0ckandHardPlace · 31/08/2025 08:30

Cellarorhotel · 31/08/2025 08:26

MIL was the one who moved to a new country (uk). MIL is European. Dh actually is a 4th generation londoner, 2 of his sister have moved to new countries (different countries from grandparents).

Edited

In that case how about saying to MIL “Please can we have the bedroom this year as the cellar will be cold for baby?” It’s not an unreasonable request.

GabriellaMontez · 31/08/2025 08:31

Cellarorhotel · 31/08/2025 08:24

It was the flight prices and those days were the cheapest.

They're not cheap if you now have to pay 11 days of hotel room.

Just buy new return flights.

Movingon2024 · 31/08/2025 08:36

I feel sorry for the grandpa, being written off at 93.

presumably you’ll also have to budget for his funeral later in the year?

just book a hotel or new flights for this Xmas, ffs

Cellarorhotel · 31/08/2025 08:38

Bjorkdidit · 31/08/2025 04:29

Not sorry that I can't get over anyone ever writing 'only' in front of £37k in savings, especially when it's known that the OP has been on maternity leave for nearly a year.

But the whole thread is odd.

Why is it 'likely to be Grandad's last Christmas' solely due to his age?

Why hasn't it occurred to the OP that wearing socks (and slippers) will do a lot to keep her feet warm.

Why is it just accepted that 'SIL won't stay in the cellar'?

The OP has done her share of staying in the cellar so this time, especially as they have the baby, I'd be saying that OP and DH can have the remaining bedroom and SIL can sleep in the cellar, otherwise they will suck up the loss of the £120 on flights, not go and have a quiet Christmas at home without all the drama.

When I was talking about socks/slippers it was an indication to me the cellar is cold and therefore not a suitable place for a baby. Even when heating is on full blast I remember it being cold.. the grandpa doesn't stinge on heating, he doesn't care how much it costs.

Based on what dh says, the rooms are doled up like Grace and favour properties. The last time the couple with a baby had to go to a hotel too and share with another family member flying in. I remember her mother expressing horror at that idea but she didn't make her daughter leave that bedroom.

We aren't distanced from the whole family, just his mum and the youngest sisters. For many reasons which I wouldn't go into here, but i suppose the grace and favour rooms and the fact she would let her grandson stay in a cellar/daughter share room with MIL rather than reallocate rooms is a sign.. the sisters all worship MIL (as well as the grandpa), what they think or want is irrelevant so I don't blame them. Dh decided around a year ago he doesn't want to pretend to worship his mum anymore hence why we are distanced, plus the youngest is quite difficult as she is her mother's favourite.

The 93 year old grandpa is in poor health. We lost dh's other grandpa who was in his 90s (he did live in London so we saw him v often )..

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Cellarorhotel · 31/08/2025 08:39

Movingon2024 · 31/08/2025 08:36

I feel sorry for the grandpa, being written off at 93.

presumably you’ll also have to budget for his funeral later in the year?

just book a hotel or new flights for this Xmas, ffs

He doesn't have that many birthdays left and we already had to miss the last one

The cheapest hotel we found is 650 for 11 nights..rebooking new flights might cost 400 quid anyway.

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mamagogo1 · 31/08/2025 08:40

What can you get a hotel or airbnb for? I’ve also stayed with neighbours when I go to my parents and all rooms are full- neighbours were away for 2 weeks so like house sitting. Get the family to ask about

Cellarorhotel · 31/08/2025 08:41

R0ckandHardPlace · 31/08/2025 08:30

In that case how about saying to MIL “Please can we have the bedroom this year as the cellar will be cold for baby?” It’s not an unreasonable request.

Dh already broached that. MIL isn't that sympathetic. She put dh in the cellar as a child so I guess why would my son be different..she prefers girls to boys anyway. Grandpa is v elderly he is relying a lot on MIL to make all decisions for him. He can barely hear anymore.

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