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To tell my husband to stop saying this?

512 replies

cittykat · 29/08/2025 07:48

my 9 year old son is a massive cat lover. He has cat slippers, tshirts, pens etc etc. I got him some cat pyjamas. These ones. https://amzn.to/45XnCwa

my husband (son’s dad) keeps telling him that he has to stop wearing them as they are girls’ pyjamas.

my son has said to him “please can you stop calling them girls’ pyjamas” and my husband says that he will be bullied if his friends see him wearing them. I have pointed out that the only one bullying him is his own father.

my husband says that telling him that they’re girls’ and not appropriate is not bullying it’s “parenting”

my husband thinks the shorts on the pyjamas are too short. Like little hot pants. Sometimes when son is lounging on the sofa they ride up and some bum cheek is visible. This angers husband and starts him off on his “girls’ pyjamas” conversation again.

son likes the pyjamas. I said I would ask on here what people thought. Please vote.

YANBU - your husband should stop calling them “girls’ pyjamas” to your son and back off

YABU - your son shouldn’t wear the pyjamas and your husband is right to protect him from future bullying if son’s friends saw the pyjamas on a sleepover.

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SummerFrog25 · 29/08/2025 10:17

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:16

No. And that’s not what people, or likely OP’s DH is saying. It’s a fact that girl’s shorts are often cut higher and the fact that DH is commenting on that is just making the distinction. He said that that’s how girls wear them. Not that it’s OK. That’s a different thing. The lack of critical and even logical thinking around this is appalling and threatening to derail the thread.

Right there with you

Trovindia · 29/08/2025 10:23

Swiftie1878 · 29/08/2025 08:20

I beg to differ. Year 4 boys are by and large taller than the girls.

Even if they are (which I don't necessarily agree with) their waist to crotch measurement isn't going to be different. Trust me, I'm a seamstress. The shorts fit him, they are just short, which they would also be on a girl. So they are either ok for children of either sex, or they are not. They can only be considered "just for girls" if you are sexist and think girls should have more skin showing than boys.

BauhausOfEliott · 29/08/2025 10:23

ittakes2 · 29/08/2025 08:01

This is a joke post right? The link you posted literally says they are girls pjs so likely designed for girls bodies.

Pre-puberty, girls and boys rarely have differently shaped bodies. The OP's son is 9, ffs. It doesn't matter what the label on the pyjamas says.

SummerFrog25 · 29/08/2025 10:23

The shorts don't even look 'skimpy' it's just what happens in summer Pj's when people are lounging around.

Larkonomics · 29/08/2025 10:24

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Catwalking · 29/08/2025 10:25

maybe wear ‘shorts’ over leggings a la batman style 😊
Im astounded a father would be so openly critical about a child…his child? Hasn’t Dad got anything better to do?

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:25

SummerFrog25 · 29/08/2025 10:17

Right there with you

It’s actually quite depressing to see so many posters trying to twist what OP has said so they can accuse her DH of being some sort of perv. The trend towards picking up on ridiculous minutiae totally irrelevant to the point of the thread and running with it to the point of derailment will be the death of MN. AIBU has always been brutal, but it’s now getting to the point where the opportunity for reasonable debate is lost in a slew of anonymous keyboard warriors saying things they would never dare to utter to anyone face to face.

Bennetty · 29/08/2025 10:25

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:10

Except that OP didn’t say anywhere in her post that that was what he said. He was likely making the distinction as to how the cut of something designed for a girl would wear differently on a boy, or commenting on how shorts for girls are cut higher. Nothing to suggest that’s what he’d like on a DD, jut that he doesn’t like it on his DS. Once again MN has picked up on a minute detail, badly worded by the OP and is running with it to the point where it derails the thread. If you’re always looking for a perv then you’re always going to find one. It’s batshit.

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The commenter didn't say anything about the father being a pervert. They're pointing out a double standard. If shorts are too short for a boy, why are they not too short for a girl?

EuclidianGeometryFan · 29/08/2025 10:26

Anewuser · 29/08/2025 08:28

It’s not about the pyjamas but how the father is talking to his child.

They are girls pjs but so what? He will be growing and summer is nearly over so they won’t be worn for much longer.

If the father really had a problem with them, he could have hidden them, said they got ruined in the washing machine, bought different ones, but he didn’t he chose to take the piss out of his own child, constantly.

He obviously sees buying pyjamas, washing them, and monitoring their whereabout as "woman's work".

Katherine9 · 29/08/2025 10:27

Looking at the photo of the pjs online, I don't see how these can be so short that his bum cheeks could be seen! They look quite long actually. Bearing in mind they are labelled as 'girl' pjs, you might need to size up significantly.

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:29

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Where has OP said anything like that ? She said her DH thinks that style should only be worn by girls - statement to the fact that they were designed for, and marketed to girls. At no point has OP said her DH would like to see girls wearing it, just that he doesn’t think it appropriate for his son. The fact that you and many others on here are jumping to that conclusion actually says more about you.

MzHz · 29/08/2025 10:32

Ofgs, his arse is hanging out- get him some pyjama trousers or something

everyone knows clothes for girls are being far too sexualised, they’d be wrong for a 11-12 yo girl too if they ride up that far.

EuclidianGeometryFan · 29/08/2025 10:33

cittykat · 29/08/2025 08:38

The question isn't really are the labelled as girls or not. We can see they are (although I don't know why they are)

Husband knows they are. That's what has started this whole thing.

The question is should son be allowed to continue wearing them, and should DH stop bullying son over it now son has asked husband to stop mentioning it.

They fit him absolutely fine. They are a size bigger than he normally wears.

The question is should son be allowed to continue wearing them, and should DH stop bullying son over it now son has asked husband to stop mentioning it.

You obviously already know the answer to this.
So what are you going to do about your DH?

Larkonomics · 29/08/2025 10:33

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:29

Where has OP said anything like that ? She said her DH thinks that style should only be worn by girls - statement to the fact that they were designed for, and marketed to girls. At no point has OP said her DH would like to see girls wearing it, just that he doesn’t think it appropriate for his son. The fact that you and many others on here are jumping to that conclusion actually says more about you.

Yeah that's why I deleted my comment.

Actually that's not why I deleted it, I deleted it because I knew someone would comment what you have and it's more nuanced than that.

youve987456 · 29/08/2025 10:34

I believe that this kind of behaviour is fuelling gender confusion in children. Someone tells a child that what they are wearing or doing is for children of the opposite sex, and then they start wondering about their gender. It needs to stop.

LittleBitofBread · 29/08/2025 10:35

ResusciAnnie · 29/08/2025 07:58

I’d get my husband to explain why he thinks a girl wearing tiny bum-showing shorts would be ok, if it’s not ok for his son? 😵‍💫

I’d get my husband to explain why he thinks a girl wearing tiny bum-showing shorts would be ok, if it’s not ok for his son?

Yes, this, exactly. It's a bit disturbing.
And YANBU, obviously; he needs to give his head a wobble and have a think about sexism. Your son can wear what he wants. Good for him for standing up for himself and not buying his father's gendered nonsense.

Katherine9 · 29/08/2025 10:36

Wildfairy · 29/08/2025 09:36

I don’t feel this is acceptable, you’re basically accusing the man of being a incestuous paedo, there is absolutely nothing to suggest this man wants to see your girls arses or even worse his mythical own daughters. Too far. Far too far.

Agreed on this. No need for the paedo accusations at all. I think a lot of men would feel a bit awkward about seeing their son wearing what are clearly girl pjs. There's no suggestion he would find a girl doing this ok either. OP could have managed this better by keeping the top and finding alternative, more appropriate shorts.

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:38

Bennetty · 29/08/2025 10:25

The commenter didn't say anything about the father being a pervert. They're pointing out a double standard. If shorts are too short for a boy, why are they not too short for a girl?

He didn’t say it was ok for girls to wear it though. I read the comment more that there was a clear distinction in the design and marketing, that they were meant for girls, and it wasn’t appropriate for DS to be wearing them. Whether or not he’d be OK with his DD wearing them hasn’t been clarified, only implied.

piscesangel · 29/08/2025 10:38

Your husband is so very wrong to behave like this towards your son.

However, you mentioned response to the pjs on a sleepover - it’s not appropriate to send a child of either sex to a sleepover wearing ‘little hot pants’ that don’t cover their bum fully. Surely you know that.

LittleBitofBread · 29/08/2025 10:39

Katherine9 · 29/08/2025 10:36

Agreed on this. No need for the paedo accusations at all. I think a lot of men would feel a bit awkward about seeing their son wearing what are clearly girl pjs. There's no suggestion he would find a girl doing this ok either. OP could have managed this better by keeping the top and finding alternative, more appropriate shorts.

Sorry, 'clearly girl pjs' how? (and it's not because they're described as such on Amazon). It's a pair of shorts and a T-shirt. Is it because they have cats on them? If so, why is that for girls and boys? It's because the shorts are not long, why is that okay for girls but not for boys?

k1233 · 29/08/2025 10:40

cittykat · 29/08/2025 07:53

Husband dislikes the pyjamas because the shorts are very short and to him the style should only be worn by girls. He would like a more full coverage short.

the difficulty is that it seems hard to find “boys” short sleeved summer pyjamas with a cat print. Otherwise I would have bought them in the first place. But truly I didn’t and still don’t see the problem so never occurred to me not to buy them. Son loves them.

Why not buy the long pant version and hem them at a more suitable boxer length. Easy solution.

Alternatively, swap the shorts out for a longer boxer style short.

Swedemom · 29/08/2025 10:41

cittykat · 29/08/2025 07:48

my 9 year old son is a massive cat lover. He has cat slippers, tshirts, pens etc etc. I got him some cat pyjamas. These ones. https://amzn.to/45XnCwa

my husband (son’s dad) keeps telling him that he has to stop wearing them as they are girls’ pyjamas.

my son has said to him “please can you stop calling them girls’ pyjamas” and my husband says that he will be bullied if his friends see him wearing them. I have pointed out that the only one bullying him is his own father.

my husband says that telling him that they’re girls’ and not appropriate is not bullying it’s “parenting”

my husband thinks the shorts on the pyjamas are too short. Like little hot pants. Sometimes when son is lounging on the sofa they ride up and some bum cheek is visible. This angers husband and starts him off on his “girls’ pyjamas” conversation again.

son likes the pyjamas. I said I would ask on here what people thought. Please vote.

YANBU - your husband should stop calling them “girls’ pyjamas” to your son and back off

YABU - your son shouldn’t wear the pyjamas and your husband is right to protect him from future bullying if son’s friends saw the pyjamas on a sleepover.

Ask your husband why he hates women and girls and try to make his son to hate us as well! Because that is what he is teaching. He says that girls are bad and to be avoided at all cost because what they like is inferior. He is red pilling right now. And being a bully.

LittleBitofBread · 29/08/2025 10:41

piscesangel · 29/08/2025 10:38

Your husband is so very wrong to behave like this towards your son.

However, you mentioned response to the pjs on a sleepover - it’s not appropriate to send a child of either sex to a sleepover wearing ‘little hot pants’ that don’t cover their bum fully. Surely you know that.

it’s not appropriate to send a child of either sex to a sleepover wearing ‘little hot pants’
The shorts, from the picture, are clearly not 'little hot pants'; that's what the OP says her husband called them. Hot pants are cut so short that they will never cover bum cheek; these ones sometimes ride up when her son is lounging in a particular way and show a bit of bum cheek. That's different.

Katherine9 · 29/08/2025 10:41

Larkonomics · 29/08/2025 10:33

Yeah that's why I deleted my comment.

Actually that's not why I deleted it, I deleted it because I knew someone would comment what you have and it's more nuanced than that.

Edited

People are getting hysterical about a guy not liking his son wearing girl pjs that resemble 'little hot pants' then resorting to insults such as 'paedo' while arguing he needs to be more open minded. Seriously.

LittleBitofBread · 29/08/2025 10:43

Rosscameasdoody · 29/08/2025 10:25

It’s actually quite depressing to see so many posters trying to twist what OP has said so they can accuse her DH of being some sort of perv. The trend towards picking up on ridiculous minutiae totally irrelevant to the point of the thread and running with it to the point of derailment will be the death of MN. AIBU has always been brutal, but it’s now getting to the point where the opportunity for reasonable debate is lost in a slew of anonymous keyboard warriors saying things they would never dare to utter to anyone face to face.

Not of being some sort of perv, of thinking that what he thinks of as too-short shorts are OK for girls but not boys. How on earth is that 'irrelevant' when his whole argument is that some things are okay for girls but not boys?