In 4 years, 2029, UK deaths will exceed births!

[TheMintCritic]

Just came across this and thought it was wild… according to the ONS, by 2029 the number of deaths in the UK is expected to outnumber the number of births for the first time in decades.

• Our fertility rate is only about 1.5 kids per woman, well below replacement.
• Meanwhile, the population is ageing — all those baby boomers are moving into their 70s and 80s.
• The result? The natural population growth turns negative, meaning any population increase will rely entirely on immigration.

It’s crazy to think that in just 4 years, births won’t even keep up with deaths. Makes you wonder what that’ll mean for schools, NHS, pensions, and housing.

While the planet as a whole is over populated I don’t think people understand the implications when they think this is a good thing.

There needs to be younger people earning. This is what pays for state pensions, funds the NHS, pays for elderly care. If there is a huge imbalance of older people there is not just less people to do then physical act of caring for older people but also less money being paid in taxes and national insurance.

I don’t have an issue with a lower population and it’s not just Britain, it’s everywhere in the developed world. However, those presenting this rather simplistically as “good” are misguided. It presents a whole raft of challenges that we aren’t adequately prepared for.

Realistically a lower population is good but you still want it bottom heavy.

There needs to be younger people earning. This is what pays for state pensions, funds the NHS, pays for elderly care. If there is a huge imbalance of older people there is not just less people to do then physical act of caring for older people but also less money being paid in taxes and national insurance.

Taxes will keep rising & services will get worse.

The population is growing, don’t worry!

‘More than half (65%) of the increase in the UK population between 2004 and 2023 was due to the direct contribution of net migration.

Since 2020, almost all of the growth in the population has come from net migration.
Official figures projected that the UK’s population would grow from 68 million in 2022 to 77 million in 2046. Net migration accounted for 104% of this growth. Net migration has accounted for 98% of population growth since 2020.’

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-impact-of-migration-on-uk-population-growth/

Inevitable. Give it 20 years and virtually all of us boomers will have gone, our kids will have all our money and all the people who hate us will see inequality on steroids. There will be a new set of people to envy and despise.

Is this because no one can emigrate anymore because Brexit fucked us?

Boomers had too many kids and buggered things up for us all. Got a link about that @ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat ?

I doubt it. Not That many people emigrated to within the EU anyway. Probably more to Aus etc. though I’ve not looked at numbers for that at all. Happy to be educated on it!

People still Can move to the EU, just need eg. work permits etc. as usual for outside the EU.

The world can only keep on breeding for so long, this is a good thing

And that's a bad thing? I don't want to live if I can't look after myself, what a shitty existence that would be. Literally just existing, not living. No thanks.

I think we understand just fine.

It’s not ‘boomers’ fault that house prices are ridiculous. It’s the economy. It’s terrible that wealth inequality is so huge, and getting more so. But that’s not ‘boomers’ fault.

Totally understand why it’s frustrating. A decent wage can’t buy a decent family house anymore, and that’s wrong. It’s time for the uber wealthy (billionaires etc) to pay more tax.

Labour need to stop punishing the middle class, they’re not wealthy any more.

Just as well! Infinite growth on a finite planet makes no sense at all.

I feel so sorry for the next generations living to support an aging population before their own needs are met.

Ah but it does include students coming into the UK so it's hardly surprising. Most unis are now wanting 75-80% international students because they are so underfunded by UK fees.

All the while the pharmacy industry makes a fortune prolonging life. For what? I visit a care home two times a week and I see the elderly slumped in chairs, at best they are lonely and miserable, at worst they are breathing corpses - paying the fees until their hearts stop. It’s heartbreaking.

Except they won't.

As resources get scarcer and scarcer (who is doing the work to produce them?) then the elderly and feeble won't get near them.

Good . We have too many people in the world.

Nail on the head!

Inevitable. Give it 20 years and virtually all of us boomers will have gone, our kids will have all our money and all the people who hate us will see inequality on steroids.

By what about the next 20 years? 😆

This is a good example why the governments haven't planned for the ageing population, when people mention it it's dismissed as hatred!

The world can only keep on breeding for so long, this is a good thing

Why is it a good thing to have fewer dc but more old people?

Yep, agreed.

It’s not ‘boomers’ fault that house prices are ridiculous. It’s the economy. It’s terrible that wealth inequality is so huge, and getting more so. But that’s not ‘boomers’ fault.

They vote though and tend to vote for things they think will benefit them.

Good . We have too many people in the world.

Logically if you want fewer people you don't want them to be old.

Posts like this baffle me tbh.

So speaks someone who's never been to Possil. (I jest).