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Willies on the beach

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YoureNotTheOnlyCuddlyToy · 27/08/2025 18:44

Today it was a group of mum friends and kids on the beach. My DS age 5 took off his shorts and underwear to put on his swim shorts and was (as usual) in no particular rush, and a mum friend said “ooh Billy put on your shorts quickly”. I didn’t think much of it.

Later, at home time, her own son who is 10 was changing and got distracted so was talking to the other kids whilst naked. She said rather sternly something along the lines of “Tommy no, you’re a big boy, you can’t be doing that, you need to get your pants on”.
I hadn’t thought anything of it but she clearly had an issue.

My DS 5 is my eldest, so this is a new territory for me, and I was wondering at what age it becomes ‘wrong’ (inappropriate?) for being nudey on the beach? I thought it was fine and innocent today and she was being a bit weird, but thinking about it I suppose there must be cut off point or we’d have all the blokes peacocking around with their peacocks out.

I’ll do a poll but I’m more curious than opinionated about the matter.

YABU - a ten year old should not have his bits out and should change quickly
YANBU - it’s all fine, he’s a kid and didn’t have it out all day

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BingaBongBoom · 27/08/2025 20:36

Muffinmam · 27/08/2025 20:19

There was another thread that was posted by a man that has been taken down by the administrators - I hadn’t had the opportunity to report it.

I was going to post the following:

“I really feel this thread is inappropriate.

I know that, on the face or it, it seems harmless. But the OP is giving off predator vibes.

I feel he just posted this to get everyone else to talk about their children in this way.

Something seems off.”

And now I’ve come across this thread.

It sometimes happens on Reddit that predators post these sorts of threads to get people talking about children in ways that aren’t appropriate. It appears innocent - but the objective is to get others talking about their children. When this happens it often happens in multiple sub reddits.

The language of the title of this post “Willies on the beach” - is not the sort of language that mums on here typically post. It just isn’t. I spend a lot of time on here and that post and this post seem weird.

I reported it too, for the same reason.

Stonewallslemon · 27/08/2025 20:37

Is this really, seriously a topic for discussion? Does anyone really seriously think it’s a good idea for children to be publicly naked ?

Radicalpiloti · 27/08/2025 20:39

DeborahKerr · 27/08/2025 19:00

I am honestly not being goady, but how will he manage in changing rooms at school and in rooms during residentials?

Or in naked only saunas in countries that are not UK!

Kreepture · 27/08/2025 20:40

we had a sun tent to change in. So never ever in public.

Muffinmam · 27/08/2025 20:41

Newsenmum · 27/08/2025 20:22

I agree that the whole thing feels really off. Reported.

And the administrators think it’s ok because the profile has been around for a while 🤦🏼‍♀️

Someone who has a “fascination” with this sort of thing shouldn’t be allowed to post.

There are people here who don’t understand what this post is attempting to do (talk about exposure of children in public).

It’s not appropriate.

If this were random maybe I wouldn’t give it another thought - but the title is deliberately inappropriate and it’s not random because another inappropriate post was just taken down about something else - by a person claiming that they were a man.

I understand men are on here - but a man posting such content seems to be a deliberate attempt to get other mothers to talk about their children’s private parts. It’s not ok.

Muffinmam · 27/08/2025 20:45

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TotHappy · 27/08/2025 20:58

Not everyone feels the same about nudity, that's just a fact. Not everyone feels the same about paedophiles either, it seems.
To me, if my child is naked on a beach while changing, and a paedophile sees them and is aroused, no harm has been done to my child.
I keep my child safe by being with them, only leaving them with trusted adults, talking to them about what they're to do if they somehow got separated and what they are not to do.
If someone sees my child and thinks a thought - while that's repulsive to dwell on, my child doesn't know and I don't know so we aren't harmed.
I think the benefits of my child being changed easily and without drama outweigh the negative of someone seeing them and thinking something disgusting.

SisterMarie · 27/08/2025 22:15

I think everyone will give a different answer. In my culture we are very modest so everyone will get changed completely in private anyway.

Other people are more open i suppose

marshmallowfinder · 28/08/2025 03:34

I think the time has come when any nudity in any public area by children of any age is a no.

thebabayaga · 28/08/2025 04:08

TotHappy · 27/08/2025 20:58

Not everyone feels the same about nudity, that's just a fact. Not everyone feels the same about paedophiles either, it seems.
To me, if my child is naked on a beach while changing, and a paedophile sees them and is aroused, no harm has been done to my child.
I keep my child safe by being with them, only leaving them with trusted adults, talking to them about what they're to do if they somehow got separated and what they are not to do.
If someone sees my child and thinks a thought - while that's repulsive to dwell on, my child doesn't know and I don't know so we aren't harmed.
I think the benefits of my child being changed easily and without drama outweigh the negative of someone seeing them and thinking something disgusting.

You're good with paedophiles storing up your child's body in their wank bank to get excited about later? There's something wrong with you. I suppose this sort of weird thread attracts - certain people.

thebabayaga · 28/08/2025 04:10

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There's a weird amount of leniency for paedo type or paedo adjacent threads on this site, for sure.

thebabayaga · 28/08/2025 04:16

My mum used to hold a towel up on one side and my dad on the other so we could get changed privately on the beach. It's not necessary at all to discuss any of this, this is giving a weird vibe and I am going to report the thread too.

thebabayaga · 28/08/2025 04:19

ButSheSaid · 27/08/2025 19:14

Why on earth would this need to happen? Confused

For normalisation and grooming purposes.

Paaseitjes · 28/08/2025 06:20

Mumsntfan1 · 27/08/2025 18:58

I think both are fine, no issue. But I'm in Germany so probably different if you're in the Uk!

I always read these posts and think no wonder Brits are so unhappy, but I'm Dutch! This is completely fine whether he's 10 months, 10 years or 50 years, so long as he's not doing it sexually. Even my British parents walk from the shower to their room naked. Not seeing normal adult naked bodies is surely why children get so many hang ups and pump themselves full of filler and steroids in their 20s because they've only ever seen naked adults in porn.

Charabanc · 28/08/2025 14:50

Paaseitjes · 28/08/2025 06:20

I always read these posts and think no wonder Brits are so unhappy, but I'm Dutch! This is completely fine whether he's 10 months, 10 years or 50 years, so long as he's not doing it sexually. Even my British parents walk from the shower to their room naked. Not seeing normal adult naked bodies is surely why children get so many hang ups and pump themselves full of filler and steroids in their 20s because they've only ever seen naked adults in porn.

Netherlands hosts the highest number of child sexual abuse reports 82,605 (32%) in the EU, followed by Slovakia with 31,826 (12%)

Oh dear.

https://www.iwf.org.uk/news-media/news/eu-still-hosts-the-most-child-sexual-abuse-material-in-the-world/

EU still hosts the most child sexual abuse material in the world

New IWF data shows that three in every five child sexual abuse reports are hosted in an EU member state.

https://www.iwf.org.uk/news-media/news/eu-still-hosts-the-most-child-sexual-abuse-material-in-the-world/

Muffinmam · 28/08/2025 16:45

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YoureNotTheOnlyCuddlyToy · 28/08/2025 17:03

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You are a sad bully coming back to this time and time again. You reported it, just let it go. Quit tagging me.

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PorridgeAndSyrup · 28/08/2025 17:11

I'm generally quite lax about this sort of thing, but I think 10 is too old to be standing around chatting with no pants on. I couldn't get wound up about it either though.

BauhausOfEliott · 28/08/2025 17:21

Ten is way too old to be getting it out on the beach. A ten-year-old can potentially be only a couple of months away from starting secondary school and really shouldn't be standing around naked in a public place like a beach. Pretty sure no 10-year-old I've ever known would be even remotely comfortable with that.

HerecomesMargo · 28/08/2025 18:27

Off course a 10yo shouldn’t be naked in front of others. I would expect this of a 5yo too but more understanding

nevernotmaybe · 28/08/2025 18:33

Charabanc · 28/08/2025 14:50

Netherlands hosts the highest number of child sexual abuse reports 82,605 (32%) in the EU, followed by Slovakia with 31,826 (12%)

Oh dear.

https://www.iwf.org.uk/news-media/news/eu-still-hosts-the-most-child-sexual-abuse-material-in-the-world/

You didn't read that did you . . . .

Newsenmum · 28/08/2025 20:34

A creepy and unnecessary thread though mumsnet which will attract pedos

Newsenmum · 28/08/2025 20:38

TotHappy · 27/08/2025 20:58

Not everyone feels the same about nudity, that's just a fact. Not everyone feels the same about paedophiles either, it seems.
To me, if my child is naked on a beach while changing, and a paedophile sees them and is aroused, no harm has been done to my child.
I keep my child safe by being with them, only leaving them with trusted adults, talking to them about what they're to do if they somehow got separated and what they are not to do.
If someone sees my child and thinks a thought - while that's repulsive to dwell on, my child doesn't know and I don't know so we aren't harmed.
I think the benefits of my child being changed easily and without drama outweigh the negative of someone seeing them and thinking something disgusting.

This is so sick. I can’t actually believd you said that! And if said person gets a photo of your child or uses your child for inspiration? How can you be ok with this?

thebabayaga · 28/08/2025 21:45

Ew, this weird and unnecessary thread is still up? How bizarre.

thebabayaga · 28/08/2025 21:56

Newsenmum · 28/08/2025 20:38

This is so sick. I can’t actually believd you said that! And if said person gets a photo of your child or uses your child for inspiration? How can you be ok with this?

There are people who will very carefully try to push the norms and acceptance, it's the one area nobody normal has ever shifted on though even an inch, thank God. It's the one place that they always fall down - normal people are revolted by horrified by and loathe paedos and all things paedo adjacent.

You sometimes see very careful test the waters comments, the poor child molesters aren't doing any harm if they are just thinking it, right? Next step is claiming they just can't help it, poor things. Next thing you know they're pals with Peter Tatchell and writing letters to the Guardian claiming that not all child abuse is "unwanted, abusive or harmful"

You will see the same sort of people trying to claim that there's a difference between a paedo who acts on it and a paedo who doesn't (or pretends not to), the ACKSHUALLY bunch.

Anyone who ever even remotely tries to defend, normalise, downplay paedos or anything paedo related is flying more red flags than the Tooting Popular Front.

Of course, I'm not saying that commenter is one of those. I mean, I'm sure THEY have a very good reason for this weird comment. Right?