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Inheritance dilemma

487 replies

midlifesharp · 27/08/2025 18:15

Some context- my SIL (early 40s) is the most useless woman. She doesn’t work, doesn’t drive, is a SAHM who doesn’t do housework or look after children. She doesn’t read books or watch films or have any kind of hobby or inner life. Fortunately for her she was born extremely beautiful and has had people looking after and supporting her her whole life. I actually don’t dislike her (I realise I sound like I do!) because she’s not usually unkind or cruel- she’s just boring, a bit self centred, helpless and unable to do anything for herself.

The problem- MIL is dying. She has 3 children- my DH, SIL and my lovely BIL. MIL lives abroad with her sister as the temperature helped her degenerative condition, but recently things have got worse and she’s going into hospice care. She’s moving out of her house and sorting out all her possessions before she goes. She has a lot of lovely jewellery and paintings and arty things that she’s collected over the years and wanted to arrange everything before she goes into hospice so we’re not having to deal with the house and possessions as well as her dying when we fly out.

She asked me to set up a family call so they could discuss and agree in advance who gets what so she can have things boxed and parcelled up as appropriate. I set up a zoom call and sent the details to everyone. I even messaged SIL separately to check that she had the details and crucially knew how to join the call (either download the app or join in her browser.) Then, after worrying about it some more I sent her the link to the app in the App Store, some clear instructions and suggested she practice beforehand.

Obviously at the time of the call she wasn’t able to get it to work having not done anything before hand. My 80+ MIL and her sister managed just fine but apparently it was beyond SIL. MIL was extremely disappointed and just texted her that we’d go ahead without her and hope that she was able to join. She eventually got her 10 year old son to sort it and joined 35 mins late. She was utterly furious to find out that we’d started without her and that the jewellery had already been discussed. Just to be clear- she got most of the jewellery. MIL still gave her many items that she knew she liked but there were a couple of pieces that MIL gave to me and to BIL’s wife. SIL’s not totally crass so didn’t say anything to her mum, but she did call me up afterwards to say she was shocked that she wasn’t getting all the jewellery as the only daughter, that it wasn’t fair because she wasn’t on the call, and that she expected me and BILs wife to give her the pieces MIL had said were for us.

DH told her to do one (in a more polite way). It turned into a big row and he suggested that she call up mum if she didn’t like it. He also pointed out that she was the only child not to have visited MIL in FOUR years, despite having the most financial resources, support at home and free time. Both myself and BILs wife have visited 1-2 times a year as MIL is lovely and the grandchildren love her and I’m happy to have something to remember her by.

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

(We’re talking about total value of jewellery gifts to me and BILs wife of around £5k, remaining £50k plus to SIL. Total remaining estate about £500k split evenly 3 ways.)

Finally, before people come on and say how awful everyone sounds, I’ve not touched upon how devastated everyone is and how sad and how miserable this all is. This is simply a post asking for feedback on one aspect.

OP posts:
thepariscrimefiles · 28/08/2025 08:42

BoundaryGirl3939 · 27/08/2025 23:48

I think it was awful and horribly cruel to allow the zoom call to go on for 35 mins without her daughter linked in. Id find that extremely cheeky and I'm not surprised SIL was upset.

Im a professional woman, and even I have technical issues with zoom. It was as though you set her up to fail.

OP set up the call on behalf of her MIL. It was her MIL that chose to carry on with the Zoom call in the absence of her daughter. What sort of technical issues do you have with Zoom (as a professional)? You just need to click on a link that OP would have sent to her SIL. I doubt that someone as wealthy as SIL wouldn't have access to reliable technology and broadband. She just didn't bother.

SprayWhiteDung · 28/08/2025 08:43

thepariscrimefiles · 28/08/2025 08:33

But the useless SIL only has sons wheras OP has a daughter. Therefore, there is more chance of the jewellery being kept 'in the family', if OP receives it and leaves it to her own daughter in her will.

Even then, there's no guarantee that the daughter will want the jewellery - it's not like every woman automatically likes all jewellery - or won't have financial difficulties/other preferences and immediately flog off the lot at cash converters.

This reminds me somewhat of the thread from a few years back, where the OP gave a very special item (coded as an antique ram castrator!) which also happened to be valuable to a 'friend' for the friend's father, whom she knew had a genuine love for and connection to the specialist item... only, once that passion for it had 'earned' his 'moral right' to it, the 'friend' sold it off and kept the proceeds for herself.

99bottlesofkombucha · 28/08/2025 08:46

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 27/08/2025 22:54

I think you're wrong to accept jewellery. That should be passed from mother to daughter (or grandmother to granddaughter). Art, money, property - fine.

It is surely the mother’s right to give her possessions to whoever she wants.

it’s concerning the number of you who read about an engaged helpful daughter in law who clearly loves her mil, married her son and gave birth to her grandchildren, and you say she absolutely shouldn’t get anything like jewellery from her mil in her will. It’s all very Burn the witch for presuming to count, she will never ever ever be family muahhaahaha.

thepariscrimefiles · 28/08/2025 08:46

BoundaryGirl3939 · 27/08/2025 23:57

You remind me of my manipulative sister-in-law who acts like the suns shines out of my mother's arse. All sugary sweet and fake.

You have no idea as to what kind of relationship blood mother & daughter had growing up so you have no right to judge.

Painting yourself as a martyr whilst sneaking away with the goods. Karma will catch up.

Sneaking away with the goods? One necklace? While her SIL received 90% of the jewellery? The other DIL also received one necklace. Is she equally grabby and fake?

You are obviously projecting massively here.

HenDont · 28/08/2025 08:47

There is no "should". No one has to guess what MIL would have wanted done with her jewellery. Absent pressure from SIL on the csll, MIL gave the bulk of her jewellery to her daughter and a bit to the mothers of her granddaughters. This shouldn't be undone. It is literally her clear wishes.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 28/08/2025 08:48

You said -

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

You set her up to fail Op. You also say that if she had joined the call, you'd unlikely have the jewellery. So its hers imo. You subtly schemed the call to get her out of the way.

You haven't said anything nice about her. I don't believe its this black and white (SIL = bad, Me = good).

The fact that the daughter has seen her mother is 4 years telks me that there is far more going on in terms of family dysfunction and hurt that SIL just not bothering. Its odd that you would paint SIL in such a light.

I personally would not enjoy wearing that necklace knowing that I schemed to take it from someone else.

And to allow the Zoom call to go on for 35 mins without SIL present is horrible. I suspect she's being bullied.

Soontobe60 · 28/08/2025 08:53

I’ve voted YABU because had my DM or MIL had this conversation with me, I would have told her to decide for herself who she wanted to give her things to. Setting up a Zoom call with potential recipients just seems rather ghoulish and crass IMO.
My MIL gave her DIL a lovely diamond ring just before she died - no discussion or anything. I had done all the support as DIL lives abroad and BIL / DIL only visited once every couple years. I was disappointed that MIL gave her this ring, but it was her choice to make in the end.

Notonthestairs · 28/08/2025 08:57

The Zoom call happened because that’s what MIL wanted to happen.

if you don’t know to use a Zoom call you google it.

MIL can decide to give items to whoever she likes.

if the daughter has an issue with what MIL has decided she should direct it to her mother.

SprayWhiteDung · 28/08/2025 09:04

HenDont · 28/08/2025 08:47

There is no "should". No one has to guess what MIL would have wanted done with her jewellery. Absent pressure from SIL on the csll, MIL gave the bulk of her jewellery to her daughter and a bit to the mothers of her granddaughters. This shouldn't be undone. It is literally her clear wishes.

Mad, isn't it? People are trying to second-guess what they assume MIL 'would have wanted' - whilst MIL is still alive and she's unequivocally and actively saying "THIS is what I want!" !!

lazyarse123 · 28/08/2025 09:17

Coldtoesinthebed · 27/08/2025 22:53

Hmm is a tough one, mil should have asked one of her children to set up the meeting, you setting it up has definitely put you in an awkward position. However, the jewellery should be going to her daughter IMO regardless of the value there’s an emotional attachment to “mum wore this to that” (as much as I sympathise your mum was maybe a bit shitty is tough it’s irrelevant) and when you say that if she gets it that it should effect the estate is (and I don’t mean this to sound as harsh as it will) is none of your business that’s for her to discuss with her mum and brothers. Her job/lifestyle have no direct impact on how the current situation should be handled

Sorry but if the sil hasn't seen her mum for years and the mum bought these things on her travels how the hell can her daughter have seen her wear them? Presumably if she's being given 45 thousand pounds worth of jewellery there will be something special to her in there. She's a greedy grabby bitch and so is anyone who agrees with her.
How many times does it need saying that mil expressly asked op to organise the call and she probably thought it would be a better idea to discuss the household objects with the women in the family eg: op dil and sil. Because let's face it that is who usually deals with that stuff. If the scarves had been mentioned to a man they would not have thought that they could have been made into a keepsake as ops dd wants to do. The thought just wouldn't occur. Op is not the bad guy here.

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 09:17

It's irrelevant how your SIL chooses to live her life.
You know nothing of the intricacies of the relationship between her and her mum.
It's irrelevant how 'close' you feel to MIL.

In this situation your role is to provide emotional support, any practicalities eg assets, money etc should be dealt with by the three siblings.
If MIL asks you I would gently steer her to your DH. It's simply not your place to negotiate and organise any of it.
Step back.

SprayWhiteDung · 28/08/2025 09:18

BoundaryGirl3939 · 28/08/2025 08:48

You said -

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

You set her up to fail Op. You also say that if she had joined the call, you'd unlikely have the jewellery. So its hers imo. You subtly schemed the call to get her out of the way.

You haven't said anything nice about her. I don't believe its this black and white (SIL = bad, Me = good).

The fact that the daughter has seen her mother is 4 years telks me that there is far more going on in terms of family dysfunction and hurt that SIL just not bothering. Its odd that you would paint SIL in such a light.

I personally would not enjoy wearing that necklace knowing that I schemed to take it from someone else.

And to allow the Zoom call to go on for 35 mins without SIL present is horrible. I suspect she's being bullied.

How about maybe the MIL - who asked for a Zoom call, knowing that the same selfish, lazy and domineering DD who hadn't bothered to visit her for 4 years and wouldn't even bother to take 5 minutes to learn how to join a simple video call that was clearly very important to her DM - actively chose a method, knowing that her DD wouldn’t bother to join it?

What alternative actually was there, that the DD would have bothered to engage with? Was everybody - including her frail, dying DM - expected to travel and congregate outside her home with a microphone and loud PA system?

And I truly fail to see why anybody would feel guilty enjoying a treasured possession that a loved family member freely gave to them and said "I want you to have this".

childofthe607080s · 28/08/2025 09:21

You did as MIL asked
despite your doubts
you offered help and sil was too lazy to prep
ignore her and focus on your mil

lazyarse123 · 28/08/2025 09:28

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 09:17

It's irrelevant how your SIL chooses to live her life.
You know nothing of the intricacies of the relationship between her and her mum.
It's irrelevant how 'close' you feel to MIL.

In this situation your role is to provide emotional support, any practicalities eg assets, money etc should be dealt with by the three siblings.
If MIL asks you I would gently steer her to your DH. It's simply not your place to negotiate and organise any of it.
Step back.

The only thing op organised was the call as she had been asked to do by the woman who is dying. Presumably her mil knows how her relationship is with her dd. My God the woman is getting a fortune in jewels already and she hasn't bothered to go see her mum. If they do have a tricky relationship she's lucky to be getting anything at all.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 28/08/2025 09:32

BoundaryGirl3939 · 28/08/2025 08:48

You said -

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

You set her up to fail Op. You also say that if she had joined the call, you'd unlikely have the jewellery. So its hers imo. You subtly schemed the call to get her out of the way.

You haven't said anything nice about her. I don't believe its this black and white (SIL = bad, Me = good).

The fact that the daughter has seen her mother is 4 years telks me that there is far more going on in terms of family dysfunction and hurt that SIL just not bothering. Its odd that you would paint SIL in such a light.

I personally would not enjoy wearing that necklace knowing that I schemed to take it from someone else.

And to allow the Zoom call to go on for 35 mins without SIL present is horrible. I suspect she's being bullied.

It's not her SIL's. It's her MIL's.

All the OP has done is followed the very clear instructions of her perfectly compos mentis MIL to set up a call, during which MIL expressed her clear wish to leave some jewellery to the OP in her will.

The SIL was invited to the call and knew exactly when it was. If people suspected she wouldn't join it on time or at all because she's a complete waste of space, so what? The only person who had any control whatsoever over whether the SIL would join that call was the SIL herself.

If, as some other PPs have speculated, the MIL herself didn't believe the SIL would bother to join the call along with everyone else, and this gave her an opportunity to discuss which jewellery to leave the OP without SIL stamping her foot and demanding she gets the lot, but without anyone being able to accuse them of going behind SIL's back, bloody well played.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/08/2025 09:40

BoundaryGirl3939 · 27/08/2025 23:48

I think it was awful and horribly cruel to allow the zoom call to go on for 35 mins without her daughter linked in. Id find that extremely cheeky and I'm not surprised SIL was upset.

Im a professional woman, and even I have technical issues with zoom. It was as though you set her up to fail.

Rubbish.

Trickedbyadoughnut · 28/08/2025 09:48

My gran's jewellery was split between her two granddaughter's and her two DiL's who had been her DiL for over twenty years - and I absolutely support that!

Kurkara · 28/08/2025 09:48

Of course MiL can leave jewellery to whoever she pleases. She can leave it to a cat sanctuary if it takes her fancy.
But OP has said that, if SiL had been on the call from the start, MiL would not have agreed to give OP the £2,500 item of jewellery she has now been promised.

It strikes me as grubby and grabby and I'm surprised at the responses here.

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 09:49

lazyarse123 · 28/08/2025 09:28

The only thing op organised was the call as she had been asked to do by the woman who is dying. Presumably her mil knows how her relationship is with her dd. My God the woman is getting a fortune in jewels already and she hasn't bothered to go see her mum. If they do have a tricky relationship she's lucky to be getting anything at all.

It wasn't just an ordinary zoom call though, it was a zoom call to discuss a mum's dying wishes etc. which unbelievably started without the daughter there. That's really, really poor.

SIL may be 'useless' or whatever, but she should've been chased up and then meeting started with her. Every family has someone who can be a pain! An inward eye roll and just carry on.

And personally, I would be embarrassed discussing MIL jewellery knowing a sibling wasn't there.

Notonthestairs · 28/08/2025 10:12

Kurkara · 28/08/2025 09:48

Of course MiL can leave jewellery to whoever she pleases. She can leave it to a cat sanctuary if it takes her fancy.
But OP has said that, if SiL had been on the call from the start, MiL would not have agreed to give OP the £2,500 item of jewellery she has now been promised.

It strikes me as grubby and grabby and I'm surprised at the responses here.

I’d be grateful if you could tell me where the Op says that if SIL was on the call the jewellery would not have been given to the DIL.
I must have missed it.

As far as I can see the mother didn’t “agree” to give the jewellery- she suggested it!

So much disrespect for an older woman’s wishes on this thread.

WutheringTights · 28/08/2025 10:24

Everyone seems to be ignoring MIL’s wishes in this. There’s nothing to suggest that if SIL had been on the call that she would have got everything. MIL doesn’t seem to lack capacity, maybe she wanted to give something to her DILs. I have some jewellery belonging to my MIL that was her mother’s. She wanted me to have it because of the relationship I had with her. I know that she expected it to eventually be passed to my daughter. I wouldn’t hand jewellery that MIL gave to me over to a SIL who felt entitled to it, I’d honour the wishes of the person who actually owned it. No one is entitled to an inheritance.

Robin67 · 28/08/2025 10:24

BoundaryGirl3939 · 28/08/2025 08:48

You said -

Was I unreasonable to set up the call the way I did? If I’m honest, deep down I knew she’d somehow not be able to manage it. I could have looked into other options. Also AIBU not to give her the items MIL gave me, bearing in mind if she’d managed to join the zoom call I’d be unlikely to have them?

You set her up to fail Op. You also say that if she had joined the call, you'd unlikely have the jewellery. So its hers imo. You subtly schemed the call to get her out of the way.

You haven't said anything nice about her. I don't believe its this black and white (SIL = bad, Me = good).

The fact that the daughter has seen her mother is 4 years telks me that there is far more going on in terms of family dysfunction and hurt that SIL just not bothering. Its odd that you would paint SIL in such a light.

I personally would not enjoy wearing that necklace knowing that I schemed to take it from someone else.

And to allow the Zoom call to go on for 35 mins without SIL present is horrible. I suspect she's being bullied.

Where has scheming come from if MIL wants her to have it. Why is OP at fault when both of MILs sons and MIL herself were happy to continue the call without her. Is it possible that the people on the call know the situation better than you?

godmum56 · 28/08/2025 10:27

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 09:17

It's irrelevant how your SIL chooses to live her life.
You know nothing of the intricacies of the relationship between her and her mum.
It's irrelevant how 'close' you feel to MIL.

In this situation your role is to provide emotional support, any practicalities eg assets, money etc should be dealt with by the three siblings.
If MIL asks you I would gently steer her to your DH. It's simply not your place to negotiate and organise any of it.
Step back.

the OP was asked to do it and be a part of it and presumably her husband and his brother were OK with it . It sounds like despite her personal opinions, she did everything she could to get the daughter to be able to be involved. Joining a zoom call is not difficult and she could have got help before the call.
Do you HONESTLY think that the OP should have refused the request of a dying woman?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/08/2025 10:27

I read it as SIL would have made an unpleasant scene when she heard MIL's wishes and either OP or MIL or the other DIL might have been browbeaten into letting Little Mrs Grabby have all the jewellery.

Robin67 · 28/08/2025 10:29

Fleamaker · 28/08/2025 09:49

It wasn't just an ordinary zoom call though, it was a zoom call to discuss a mum's dying wishes etc. which unbelievably started without the daughter there. That's really, really poor.

SIL may be 'useless' or whatever, but she should've been chased up and then meeting started with her. Every family has someone who can be a pain! An inward eye roll and just carry on.

And personally, I would be embarrassed discussing MIL jewellery knowing a sibling wasn't there.

Why should everyone pander to her learned uselessness/ weaponised incompetence. It's no one else's responsibility to chase her up and MIL was happy to start without her. If I were MIL I would be heartbroken that she didn't visit me in 4 years, especially under the circumstances, and that she couldn't even be arsed to sort herself out properly to join the call at the agreed time. Maybe MIL gets tired easily and waiting is actually a relatively big ask.