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Is anyone better off since Labour

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Luckymum20 · 26/08/2025 20:26

I am not just talking financially but feeling optimistic about the future for children, old age.

With the £22 billion debt now pasing £50 billion.

The increase in Council tax (that they said the wouldn't do). OAPs raid on pensions and no Winter fuel relief. Changes to finance regarding care homes. Utilities up. TV licence up. Food costs up...

I know minimum wage has increased but all costs have increased by a greater amount!

In 2021 minimum wage was almost 30% lower than it is now...

So I ask. Is anyone actually feeling better off, optimistic and pleased with this Government.

Also the October budget of likely to bring more stains on the 'average working man"

YABU - change will happen. It a good thing.

YANBU - not good

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JudgeJ · 29/08/2025 09:37

Luckymum20 · 26/08/2025 20:26

I am not just talking financially but feeling optimistic about the future for children, old age.

With the £22 billion debt now pasing £50 billion.

The increase in Council tax (that they said the wouldn't do). OAPs raid on pensions and no Winter fuel relief. Changes to finance regarding care homes. Utilities up. TV licence up. Food costs up...

I know minimum wage has increased but all costs have increased by a greater amount!

In 2021 minimum wage was almost 30% lower than it is now...

So I ask. Is anyone actually feeling better off, optimistic and pleased with this Government.

Also the October budget of likely to bring more stains on the 'average working man"

YABU - change will happen. It a good thing.

YANBU - not good

I'm sure it's been said already but Angela Rayner!

twistyizzy · 29/08/2025 09:38

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 09:34

Can’t be arsed means you have no argument. You can be arsed to sit on this thread morning, noon and night.

No I can't be arsed to go over something I've been over a million times. You aren't going to change your mind so stop being goady and baiting me. Would have thought your previous comment would have been enough to stop you baiting me. Seemingly not.
My advice is, when in a hole stop digging. You are doing yourself no favours at this point.

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 09:42

twistyizzy · 29/08/2025 09:38

No I can't be arsed to go over something I've been over a million times. You aren't going to change your mind so stop being goady and baiting me. Would have thought your previous comment would have been enough to stop you baiting me. Seemingly not.
My advice is, when in a hole stop digging. You are doing yourself no favours at this point.

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Ah the old attempts at snuffing out of an argument you don’t like tactic- got it. You seem perfectly happy to rock up on thread after thread re your peeve of private school fees VAT going over the same thing again and again. 🤔

Alexandra2001 · 29/08/2025 09:44

twistyizzy · 29/08/2025 09:25

Yes you did and no I'm not. If you search you will see how long I've been on MN.

I am extremely angry about the taxing of children's education because it directly impacts the lives of my family, child, het friends and community. I make no apologies for that. Its a mean and spiteful policy.
I am also angry at Labour's divisive language to stoke up class warfare against the children in independent schools. Ultimately they are the victims but supporters of VAT are happy to call them all the names under the sun because they feel justified in kicking "poshos". At the end of the day we are talking about children.

The fact you paint me as an angry woman ie connotations of unwarranted hysteria, is incredibly misogynistic. Maybe if your child had been attacked by the Government and then that was doubled down on here, you too would be angry?

I hold the government and their ideology in contempt, not other posters.

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What i don't understand is you said earlier you were a Labour voter, only in this GE did you not vote for them.

So you voted for Blair, Brown, Corbyn twice.

I mean Corbyn!!

twistyizzy · 29/08/2025 09:46

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 09:42

Ah the old attempts at snuffing out of an argument you don’t like tactic- got it. You seem perfectly happy to rock up on thread after thread re your peeve of private school fees VAT going over the same thing again and again. 🤔

Who the fuck are you to police my usage of MN? Are you now following me from thread to thread?

There is no point in engaging with you as you obviously only want an argument.
You are just being goady ever since you took the piss out of my username.

Next one of these will be reported.

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 09:49

twistyizzy · 29/08/2025 09:46

Who the fuck are you to police my usage of MN? Are you now following me from thread to thread?

There is no point in engaging with you as you obviously only want an argument.
You are just being goady ever since you took the piss out of my username.

Next one of these will be reported.

I beg your pardon, so we can’t even disagree with you and call out hypocrisy now!

twistyizzy · 29/08/2025 09:50

Alexandra2001 · 29/08/2025 09:44

What i don't understand is you said earlier you were a Labour voter, only in this GE did you not vote for them.

So you voted for Blair, Brown, Corbyn twice.

I mean Corbyn!!

Yes I was brought up in socialist household so was brought up to automatically vote Labour. Blair had the common sense not to attack the MC. Corbyn I admit I never really scrutinised his policies because I was relying on my tribal Labour voting habit. Looking back on them now I can't believe I voted for him.

It is this version of Labour that I abhore and I'm naturally getting more centre right as I get older. It's pretty normal to do that and I now look back and find tribal voting strange, no analysis just "I've always voted for that 1 party so will continue to do so"

I really don't care whether you believe me or not but I've made no secret of my background or prior voting.

twistyizzy · 29/08/2025 09:52

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 09:49

I beg your pardon, so we can’t even disagree with you and call out hypocrisy now!

You are not disagreeing with me, you are goading me. There is a huge difference. Read your own posts back.
You don't want debate, you just want to insult and belittle me.

MyNameIsX · 29/08/2025 09:54

Nick Ferrari/LBC

I have never seen a government unravel at such speed, ever…

MyNameIsX · 29/08/2025 09:55

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 09:49

I beg your pardon, so we can’t even disagree with you and call out hypocrisy now!

Please stop.

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 09:55

twistyizzy · 29/08/2025 09:52

You are not disagreeing with me, you are goading me. There is a huge difference. Read your own posts back.
You don't want debate, you just want to insult and belittle me.

Absolutely not. I’ m disagreeing with and high lighting your fixation on the VAT of private school fees and your posting style. Maybe read your own posts. Somebody who just shouts deflecting ,deflecting every time somebody posts an alternative view doesn’t want a debate.Neither does somebody who says I can’t bother to argue when you’ve spent the whole thread and others arguing the same point. What you want is a showcase for your political viewpoint and grievance re school fees. Maybe take out an advert instead.

MischiefandMayhemManaged · 29/08/2025 09:57

Since labour came in its been killing.

We usually had inflation based pay rises - which were never equal to inflation - but helped a little bit. - this year they scrapped them due to the NI increase. now rent has gone up, food is more expensive, but we've less money to pay it with.
council tax in my area went up by the highest ammount in the country (IYKYK) its now £240 a month. it used to be 70 - i only had £10 spare a month as it was - so.. not paying council tax now. well.. some of it - just not the rest. and fuck them. We get nothing for what we are paying any way.

My mum is entitled to carers etc, but the council isn't prividing them, the roads are shit, they cut the rural police - they took the rural police veichle and gave them a bloddy ford focus - I'd like to see anyone try to catch a trcuk or 4x4 in a fucking focus.

the council on the other hand all have new cars, pay raises and the top echelopn got bonuses...

Labour aren't fixing imigration, are kissing Trump's arse, overlooking the Gaza situation, and targeting some of the most vulnerable members of society.

Fuck them and the idiots that voted them in.

TheNuthatch · 29/08/2025 09:58

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 09:55

Absolutely not. I’ m disagreeing with and high lighting your fixation on the VAT of private school fees and your posting style. Maybe read your own posts. Somebody who just shouts deflecting ,deflecting every time somebody posts an alternative view doesn’t want a debate.Neither does somebody who says I can’t bother to argue when you’ve spent the whole thread and others arguing the same point. What you want is a showcase for your political viewpoint and grievance re school fees. Maybe take out an advert instead.

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You're not engaging with the thread, just relentlessly going after one particular poster.

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 10:00

TheNuthatch · 29/08/2025 09:58

You're not engaging with the thread, just relentlessly going after one particular poster.

And that poster has done the same. But it’s ok when it suits this particular poster who is by far the most prolific. 🤔No other poster is as invested as regards VAT on school fees.

TheNuthatch · 29/08/2025 10:05

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 10:00

And that poster has done the same. But it’s ok when it suits this particular poster who is by far the most prolific. 🤔No other poster is as invested as regards VAT on school fees.

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She has every right to be invested in whatever she chooses, none of your business really is it. Your targetting has been relentless, we can all see it.

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 10:09

TheNuthatch · 29/08/2025 10:05

She has every right to be invested in whatever she chooses, none of your business really is it. Your targetting has been relentless, we can all see it.

No I have replied to the school fees issue she keeps dragging up because I too can be invested in what I chose and disagree with her views. It’s not my fault she keeps doing so and I disagree It’s a debate. As I said if she just wants her views unchallenged she can take out an advert.

MyNameIsX · 29/08/2025 10:15

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 10:00

And that poster has done the same. But it’s ok when it suits this particular poster who is by far the most prolific. 🤔No other poster is as invested as regards VAT on school fees.

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It’s not for you to determine what they can/cannot focus on, so please stop hounding people.

twistyizzy · 29/08/2025 10:15

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 10:00

And that poster has done the same. But it’s ok when it suits this particular poster who is by far the most prolific. 🤔No other poster is as invested as regards VAT on school fees.

Edited

What business is it of yours what I am invested in? I am obviously living in your head for some reason but you aren't engaging with the thread or other posters, you are only attacking me.

This is my last interaction with you.

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 10:16

MyNameIsX · 29/08/2025 10:15

It’s not for you to determine what they can/cannot focus on, so please stop hounding people.

Ditto. It’s not ok for said poster to dictate what I can focus on either ie disagreeing with her views on school fees. It’s not hounding it’s replying to posts on the subject.

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 10:17

twistyizzy · 29/08/2025 10:15

What business is it of yours what I am invested in? I am obviously living in your head for some reason but you aren't engaging with the thread or other posters, you are only attacking me.

This is my last interaction with you.

You are the only one who keeps on dragging up school fees!!!

TheNuthatch · 29/08/2025 10:18

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 10:09

No I have replied to the school fees issue she keeps dragging up because I too can be invested in what I chose and disagree with her views. It’s not my fault she keeps doing so and I disagree It’s a debate. As I said if she just wants her views unchallenged she can take out an advert.

Ffs. Put the spade down.

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 10:19

TheNuthatch · 29/08/2025 10:18

Ffs. Put the spade down.

Ditto

MyNameIsX · 29/08/2025 10:20

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 10:16

Ditto. It’s not ok for said poster to dictate what I can focus on either ie disagreeing with her views on school fees. It’s not hounding it’s replying to posts on the subject.

Looks like hounding to me.

Kdfjh4847 · 29/08/2025 10:22

MyNameIsX · 29/08/2025 10:20

Looks like hounding to me.

How? I haven’t replied to the vast majority of said posters many posts.

Allisnotlost1 · 29/08/2025 10:25

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 29/08/2025 09:17

Yes, 100% sure.

Well, at least Reform know their audience, and now we all know who we’re dealing with.

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