Is anyone better off since Labour

[Luckymum20]

I am not just talking financially but feeling optimistic about the future for children, old age.

With the £22 billion debt now pasing £50 billion.

The increase in Council tax (that they said the wouldn't do). OAPs raid on pensions and no Winter fuel relief. Changes to finance regarding care homes. Utilities up. TV licence up. Food costs up...

I know minimum wage has increased but all costs have increased by a greater amount!

In 2021 minimum wage was almost 30% lower than it is now...

So I ask. Is anyone actually feeling better off, optimistic and pleased with this Government.

Also the October budget of likely to bring more stains on the 'average working man"

YABU - change will happen. It a good thing.

YANBU - not good

Yes, children who receive a private education paid for by their parents, the parents are the ones who vote, would I ever think Labour stood for those parents, no, I wouldn't.

Starmer actually got a little boost in the polls after his island of strangers speech.

So you support punishing children, some of whom have send. Righto.

The only Labour policy that you have mentioned liking would not be possible if we were still in the EU, so you can take comfort in that.

Sorry you aren't familiar with MN vernacular.
Are you on drugs was a well used saying in more humorous times
As was: ODFOD
Have a biscuit
cockwomble
twatwaffle etc

Maybe you weren't around 10+ years ago?

Ooh, cryptic but also fictional.

So are we are not believe anything that Reform say, even if it's coupled with the showmanship of yesterday's speech. I'm really confused, are you saying that Reform are making stuff up then and have no intention of following through on any of their policies?

I can't believe Sadiq Khan paid £55,000 for that report. Even the New Statesman published this:

Jan 2024
Sadiq Khan gave a speech at Mansion House last night in which he claimed that the UK is suffering from a “cost of Brexit crisis”. The speech was accompanied by a report which claims that Brexit will have “cost” the UK economy £311bn by 2035.

This is a claim so egregious it deserves to be printed on the side of the bus and driven around the country by Boris Johnson. It relies on modelling that even pro-Remain economists I’ve spoken to say is questionable at best.

London’s growth since leaving the EU has been strong: a recent report from the Mayor’s own economists, GLA Economics, found the capital’s economic output is now 7.7 per cent above pre-pandemic levels. This doesn’t line up with Khan’s claim last night that London’s economy has “shrunk by more than £30bn” as a result of Brexit.

But it is the report’s forward projections of Brexit’s impact that are most fantastical...

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2024/01/sadiq-khan-brexit-baloney-wont-fix-economy

Another critique of the report here;

Sadiq Khan’s Brexit figures are straight out of fantasyland.

https://capx.co/sadiq-khans-brexit-figures-are-straight-out-of-fantasyland

You didn't say that though, you said the ones who receive an education. Those people are children.

Oh right, yeah, good one!

do I feel better or worse off - worse off
do I blame Labour for this ? No

the financial situation was dire , the world situation is even worse

do I feel they are doing enough? No. They are beholden to business and votes and so are not facing up to hard facts like the fact that climate change has now gone too far and our living standards will be reduced as a result and they are still not doing anything about it because it would cost

but I blame voters not Labour - they can’t fix the health service or education or the climate without money that no one will give them. It’s us with our short term thinking and short term greed than hamstring any government

Cryptic to someone very blinkered perhaps, but certainly not fictional.
Reform can't do anything as they're* *not in power. What they can do is influence those who are. We're watching it happen in real time.

You have taken and twisted (see why you have that username) my post out of context as I couldn't understand that anyone would think the Labour party was pro private schooling, it's the Labour party FFS. Don't vote for the Labour party if you don't agree with their manifesto, that's just stoopid!

Okay, thanks for the clarification. So Labour aren’t the party for anyone who seeks to improve themselves or their lives and will actively punish you for trying! Don’t get above your station, folks! If you aspire to a better life, Labour’s not the party for you. Stay poor, stay uneducated, stay unhappy.

That's exactly what you're doing if you support this policy. It won't even make any money. The only losers are the kids.

So are we to believe anything that Reform say then or is it just pure fiction aka bollox? You still haven't answered, I wonder why.

Your exact words were:
"I don't think Labour is particularly concerned with those who are in receipt of a paid for education, whatever made you think that"

I haven't twisted anything.

Those who are in receipt of a paid for education are children because they are the ones in education.
Stop being mealy mouthed and own the words you used.

I take most of it with a very large pinch of salt personally, but you do you.

Oh but Labour do support selective schooling by post code. See Starmer.

@twistyizzy - you really are beginning to show your true colours twisty.

They aren't the ones in government so they could say the moon is made of cheese and they want to levy a cheese tax on it. They haven't got the power to do it.

What's interesting though is that they clearly shape Labour policy eg more Labour politicians are openly saying we should leave ECHR etc. Reform live rent free in Labour's head so let's see what Labour's response to that statement by Farage is.

Oh yes, I’m aware. Sad state of affairs.

Of course the Labour party don't stand for the minority of wealthy folk. A political party is not going to be everything to everyman, that's why we vote as it's the only fair way to govern a country.

Ooo what are my true colours?

You state that because I questioned you? Take it you haven't been on MN for long?

Convenient.

So just admit you stated that Labour aren't concerned with a % of children based on nothing more than the type of school they go to.
Stop deflecting and just own it.