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Is anyone better off since Labour

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Luckymum20 · 26/08/2025 20:26

I am not just talking financially but feeling optimistic about the future for children, old age.

With the £22 billion debt now pasing £50 billion.

The increase in Council tax (that they said the wouldn't do). OAPs raid on pensions and no Winter fuel relief. Changes to finance regarding care homes. Utilities up. TV licence up. Food costs up...

I know minimum wage has increased but all costs have increased by a greater amount!

In 2021 minimum wage was almost 30% lower than it is now...

So I ask. Is anyone actually feeling better off, optimistic and pleased with this Government.

Also the October budget of likely to bring more stains on the 'average working man"

YABU - change will happen. It a good thing.

YANBU - not good

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smallpinecone · 27/08/2025 21:20

MillyMolliMandi · 27/08/2025 21:15

@twistyizzy - you really are beginning to show your true colours twisty.

Don’t be silly. Why the ‘true colours’ comment implying some sinister ulterior motive?

And since when did having opinions become having an agenda?

TheNuthatch · 27/08/2025 21:20

Goldenbear · 27/08/2025 21:18

Convenient.

Eh? Why is it convenient?

smallpinecone · 27/08/2025 21:21

Goldenbear · 27/08/2025 21:17

Of course the Labour party don't stand for the minority of wealthy folk. A political party is not going to be everything to everyman, that's why we vote as it's the only fair way to govern a country.

The minority of wealthy folk 🤣

It’s just not worth engaging with this nonsense.

smallpinecone · 27/08/2025 21:22

twistyizzy · 27/08/2025 21:19

So just admit you stated that Labour aren't concerned with a % of children based on nothing more than the type of school they go to.
Stop deflecting and just own it.

I think she already said that. Those in receipt of a paid for education, I believe.

Goldenbear · 27/08/2025 21:22

TheNuthatch · 27/08/2025 21:20

Eh? Why is it convenient?

To not answer the question but tbh your constant deflection says it all so, adiós!

TheNuthatch · 27/08/2025 21:22

Goldenbear · 27/08/2025 21:17

Of course the Labour party don't stand for the minority of wealthy folk. A political party is not going to be everything to everyman, that's why we vote as it's the only fair way to govern a country.

Who do they stand for then?

TheNuthatch · 27/08/2025 21:24

Goldenbear · 27/08/2025 21:22

To not answer the question but tbh your constant deflection says it all so, adiós!

I did answer the question, read again. Did my answer not suit?

twistyizzy · 27/08/2025 21:25

TheNuthatch · 27/08/2025 21:22

Who do they stand for then?

Well not certain groups of children obviously, just based on the type of school they go to!
Charming isn't it?

twistyizzy · 27/08/2025 21:26

smallpinecone · 27/08/2025 21:20

Don’t be silly. Why the ‘true colours’ comment implying some sinister ulterior motive?

And since when did having opinions become having an agenda?

Obviously when you have an opinion which differs from that poster!

smallpinecone · 27/08/2025 21:26

TheNuthatch · 27/08/2025 21:22

Who do they stand for then?

Based on the answers to my questions, I’d guess those in poverty who’ve been badly educated, as long as they’re happy to stay that way. Labour won’t help them escape that life, they’ll actively prevent them from doing it or aspiring to better.

MrsMurphyIWish · 27/08/2025 21:27

The thread has taken many a turn since I posted earlier but as it’s taken an education slant all I can say is that I’m a teacher (state of 26 years) with an ASD child and this year we received DLA for him. He is going to a state secondary with a cohort of nearly 200 kids from a one form entry with a 1-2-1 TA. I am worried but I am thankful that DLA can help him but a uniform he is comfortable in, loops, a special diet. It’s not all doom and gloom in state.

smallpinecone · 27/08/2025 21:27

twistyizzy · 27/08/2025 21:26

Obviously when you have an opinion which differs from that poster!

Agreed!

twistyizzy · 27/08/2025 21:28

MrsMurphyIWish · 27/08/2025 21:27

The thread has taken many a turn since I posted earlier but as it’s taken an education slant all I can say is that I’m a teacher (state of 26 years) with an ASD child and this year we received DLA for him. He is going to a state secondary with a cohort of nearly 200 kids from a one form entry with a 1-2-1 TA. I am worried but I am thankful that DLA can help him but a uniform he is comfortable in, loops, a special diet. It’s not all doom and gloom in state.

Edited

That's so good to hear and I'm really pleased for you both, it must be a huge relief. However you must also acknowledge that it's a complete postcode lottery?

twistyizzy · 27/08/2025 21:29

smallpinecone · 27/08/2025 21:22

I think she already said that. Those in receipt of a paid for education, I believe.

She then tried obfuscating to deflect from having said it.

TheNuthatch · 27/08/2025 21:30

MrsMurphyIWish · 27/08/2025 21:27

The thread has taken many a turn since I posted earlier but as it’s taken an education slant all I can say is that I’m a teacher (state of 26 years) with an ASD child and this year we received DLA for him. He is going to a state secondary with a cohort of nearly 200 kids from a one form entry with a 1-2-1 TA. I am worried but I am thankful that DLA can help him but a uniform he is comfortable in, loops, a special diet. It’s not all doom and gloom in state.

Edited

Good luck, I hope your ds thrives there. I totally get the uniform thing, that was a big hurdle for us. None of my dc were privately educated, but as a parent with an ASD child who had to be removed from state, I totally understand why others go private. I value that choice being available for those who need it.

MrsMurphyIWish · 27/08/2025 21:47

TheNuthatch · 27/08/2025 21:30

Good luck, I hope your ds thrives there. I totally get the uniform thing, that was a big hurdle for us. None of my dc were privately educated, but as a parent with an ASD child who had to be removed from state, I totally understand why others go private. I value that choice being available for those who need it.

Thank you. We live in and teach in a deprived city so it’s not all “roses” but we have never sought to look for the most academic schools, just those that have a community feel. My son can even wear a polo shirt! Sometimes going to the local “sink” comp can help in other areas.

MillyMolliMandi · 27/08/2025 21:50

twistyizzy · 27/08/2025 21:18

Ooo what are my true colours?

You state that because I questioned you? Take it you haven't been on MN for long?

@twistyizzy you see I have been on MN since 2010 - long enough for you?

TheNuthatch · 27/08/2025 21:53

MillyMolliMandi · 27/08/2025 21:50

@twistyizzy you see I have been on MN since 2010 - long enough for you?

What 'true colours' are you trying to highlight? Perhaps you could spell it out?

twistyizzy · 27/08/2025 21:57

MillyMolliMandi · 27/08/2025 21:50

@twistyizzy you see I have been on MN since 2010 - long enough for you?

Then what are my "true colours"?
I disagree with you and suddenly I have an agenda and am showing my true colours?

All highly cryptic and meaningless

smallpinecone · 27/08/2025 22:08

twistyizzy · 27/08/2025 21:57

Then what are my "true colours"?
I disagree with you and suddenly I have an agenda and am showing my true colours?

All highly cryptic and meaningless

Also predictable though!

HolidayInCambodia25 · 27/08/2025 22:11

I'd take Thatcher over Starmer or any of the current Labour Party, any day.

twistyizzy · 27/08/2025 22:13

smallpinecone · 27/08/2025 22:08

Also predictable though!

And I see my true colours shining through 🎵🎶🎵

Parsley4321 · 27/08/2025 22:20

@HolidayInCambodia25 god me too
can anyone reply to what an IMf bail out cd look like pleasex

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 27/08/2025 22:25

HolidayInCambodia25 · 27/08/2025 22:11

I'd take Thatcher over Starmer or any of the current Labour Party, any day.

Thatcher 1989;
’You want to keep more of the money you earn? I'm afraid that's very selfish. We shall want to tax that away. You want to own shares in your firm? We can't have that. The state has to own your firm. You want to choose where to send your children to school? That's very divisive. You'll send your child where we tell you.’

Nothing changes does it.

NoKidsSendDogs · 27/08/2025 22:33

smallpinecone · 27/08/2025 21:09

Okay, thanks for the clarification. So Labour aren’t the party for anyone who seeks to improve themselves or their lives and will actively punish you for trying! Don’t get above your station, folks! If you aspire to a better life, Labour’s not the party for you. Stay poor, stay uneducated, stay unhappy.

I mean, this is exactly who labour are now.

And, just to be clear, I am one of the people going off about labour's hypocrisy and Reeves' incompetence, the woman is a twit, but I also think Farage is a dipshit, I also think Trump is a dipshit. You CAN hate labour without supporting Reform. Unfortunately the choices are always just shit and shitter. This was the choice in the UK and it was the same in the US.

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