Is anyone better off since Labour

[Luckymum20]

I am not just talking financially but feeling optimistic about the future for children, old age.

With the £22 billion debt now pasing £50 billion.

The increase in Council tax (that they said the wouldn't do). OAPs raid on pensions and no Winter fuel relief. Changes to finance regarding care homes. Utilities up. TV licence up. Food costs up...

I know minimum wage has increased but all costs have increased by a greater amount!

In 2021 minimum wage was almost 30% lower than it is now...

So I ask. Is anyone actually feeling better off, optimistic and pleased with this Government.

Also the October budget of likely to bring more stains on the 'average working man"

YABU - change will happen. It a good thing.

YANBU - not good

Nope. What do you hope to achieve with this? People aren’t stupid you know

Far worse off even though minimum wage rose, everything else rose way higher so worse of this year than last and I imagine that will keep happening.

And has a new sidekick to help her draft the next budget, God knows how that will pan out

Interesting that you target women here. I'm of the opinion men are largely to blame for the amount of benefits women have to claim, because they have little empathy or sense of responsibility and leave without looking after their mess. I'd suggest working on that would save our economy a lot of welfare. I'd suggest if a man has more than 1 family he is taxed higher, so the state can use that to help support his family, unless he can prove he pays, and HAS ALWAYS paid child maintenance at a responsible level.

An equality and social justice organisation? Oh well that’s that obvious reality debunked then

Nope, had hours and money cut with my job and just heard that utility bills are going up again , just as I’ve managed to get into the black with the electricity and gas this summer. Only by 40 pounds though!
Food prices is a constant battle to keep low and how families with younger children manage I’ve no idea.

Mismanagement in the NHS goes back much further than 14 years sadly, if 70% was seen as good! In France when it fell below 80% in 1999 there was outcry. Though it is now back over 80%. Whether they measure it the same way as we do I do not know, but they do have a better managed, better run and better resourced healthcare system than the UK :)

It’s 21% here now. 🤷‍♀️

I'm neither better nor worse off financially, but then I didn't expect miracles in the first year like so many naive people clearly did.

I don't feel optimistic either, but that's because Reform has picked up so much support from the people who expected miracles that it's hard to see how anything good can come from it.

I fear we are in for much darker times ahead and Starmer and the rest of this government have really got their work cut out turning things around. I don't really recognise this country any more, but not for the reasons Farage etc are shouting about.

To be fair, I can see the logic behind pps argument.
Around 2 million households receive HB. One could argue that that is propping up the high rent prices. Without it, landlords would have to lower rents because otherwise the properties would be empty. Around 5 mil households rent from private landlords. If large part of it loses top up, landlords will have to adjust or large part of their renters will have to leave their properties and there would be lower competition for them. When private rents drop, social rents should too to stay under market rate.

But it would be very, very risky move with many pitfalls and difficult to roll out.

And as a result better health outcomes across the board compared to the UK.

The UK is in nearly inevitable decline, because a big part of the wealth of the country came from colonies and from being on top of industrialisation. Neither of those two advantages are there any more.

Brexit meant that for international business the UK is no more the gate to the continental Europe which was another advantage. And for the UK companies it meant that operating on the whole EU market is harder.
In my EU country, British companies reduced their footprint a lot - Iceland totally left the market and M&S significantly reduced the food offering, now importing only long shelf date goods.

And Torries did nothing to slow the downward movement afterwards.

There is only so much any government can do now.
The question isn't "are we better under Labour", the question is "could anyone reach any better outcomes in the current situation?"

It was a convenient link that lists all the problems with the claim. Tell me you didn’t bother reading the article/report etc…

If it’s an obvious reality it should be easy to reference shouldn’t it? So how do you know?

I stopped reading at the drag queens in classrooms improves math education outcomes, honestly what are you actually trying to prove with this nonsense?

See below and no it’s not all based on one report.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-millionaires-non-dom-tax-rachel-reeves-b2775646.html

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/jul/07/non-doms-labour-super-rich-leaving-the-uk

https://www.ftadviser.com/investments/2024/10/09/uk-millionaire-exodus-expected-by-2028/

No idea where you read about drag queens but it’s not in the version I can see. Maybe your cookies are giving you something different?

These articles don’t support your claim at all. The first two are largely speculative and focus on non-doms (who by definition are not permanent residents) and the last one says ‘Today, 4.5 per cent of British residents are millionaires but the think tank expects this to fall to 3.62 per cent. ’. Hardly a massive exodus then.

I think they’re an absolute shower of shite and will only last this term. Rightfully so too.

scary though that imo there’s no other party that will do good either.

Nah - I think we are same-ish. Increase in private school was countered by the schools ability to not actually charge the full whack so its was minimal. We both work and have always paid highest tax bracket. Tory supporters but happy to let Labour have a go and see what they can do. Slightly concerned about the immigration stuff (I had someone write outside my house this week ‘send them home’) - I am not from here but have been here about 20 years. I definitely think reform have a decent chance when this lot leave tho with the way things are going…

You don’t think 20% is an exodus? If 20% of the population left, would that be an exodus?

The top 1% pay 30% of income tax, 20% of those people leaving is a 6% reduction in overall income tax.

Why are you spreading such misinformation? What is your motivation?

What do you mean by, "Scandinavian levels of taxation", which Scandinavian country are you referring to?

Net worth - which is the definition of a millionaire - and high earners who pay income tax are completely different categories of people. You’re conflating them.

It’s not just rich people that are leaving , but many of my acquaintances have children who are 20 + and they are working in places like Dubai or the UAE and have said they don’t want to return back to the UK anytime soon.
Better working conditions , pay and so on is the lure and it seems to be working out for them as bankers or teachers. A few years ago they would having been paying taxes here, but they think the UK doesn’t have any prospects for them. I know it’s only a few people , but it’s sad they feel it’s better to live so far away from family in order to get on. The one who is a teacher was tired of the social depreciation he saw on a daily basis where he worked before.

39%

I don’t think any western country is likely to feel optimistic and happy at the moment. The problems are bigger than any one government and I suspect systemic rather than cyclical.

we need to invest to reduce impact on the climate or face a huge bill and massive issues in the mid future.
climate change fuels resource scarcity and increased wars, leading to people being displaced and more asylum seekers.
global tensions means more defence spending. The last 30 (60 really) years has seen defence spending drop as health spending rises.
ageing population means health & pension costs are increasing.

if we need to increase defence spend it’s hard to see where it comes from.

its a tangled net of issues with no easy solution.

I do think technology can / will solve a lot of the issues (green energy, lower health costs) but not in the short term, in the short term theses things need investment.

Which country as don't know if you know this but Scandanvia is not one country?

Like referring to drag queens and maths lessons you mean?

It’s not 20%, you need to brush up on your reading. It’s 1%.

Even the original author has backtracked and no longer thinks it’s an exodus - and doesn’t blame this government for what he calls a five year trend. ‘Philosophically, is around 1% of a population really a ‘mass departure’? It depends on what agenda the newspaper wants to make a story out of.’

https://www.henleyglobal.com/publications/henley-private-wealth-migration-report-2025/taxing-choice-migration-millionaires-and-meaning-exodus

No prizes for guessing your agenda.