To think this takes top place as the most tacky 'flag' example?!!

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For those of you who think the flags and roundabout paintings are tacky...

What do you make of this house?

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As it was in all likelihood down to support England, during a national sports competition, it probably isn't there now.

@MyHeartyCoralSnail

I rather live next to this than someone with a Palestinian flag (often some unthinking woke terrorist supporter)

It's not either or is it? I'd avoid buying a home anywhere where people think plastering any flag across the front of their property is a smart move. Bunch of morons.

I think we've all started a poster or similar and not left enough room for all the letters.
When we were 10.

I don't much care what he does to his own house, but I'd be involving the police if he spray painted anything of mine.

Are you saying you don't believe @Simonjt (a long term, balanced 'real' poster) or his mum?

Well seeing as this is the Internet and none of us know who anyone is on here I take the majority of stuff with a very large pinch of salt.

They have as insurance need the crime reference for a claim as well, I imagine the police will respond in a few weeks, what a complete waste of their resources.

It’s made me think more about this… The Palestinian flag has become more than just solidarity with an oppressed people, it’s become an aggressive symbol against a minority in the UK too. Similarly, the English flag should represent the English nation, but it has recently morphed into a symbol against a minority which shouldn’t be tolerated. It’s a nuanced situation at the moment. And while I agree that it shouldn’t be an issue to display your country’s flag, it becomes an issue when it’s used aggressively and makes people feel uncomfortable. If flags are contentious because of insidious and underlying racism then there should be a blanket ban on them in the interim.

Fine, but I do know some MNers I've met over the years.i haven't actually met Simon IRL, but I trust he is who he says he is, that aside, I don't think it's on to call him a liar.

@Jujujudo

It’s made me think more about this… The Palestinian flag has become more than just solidarity with an oppressed people, it’s become an aggressive symbol against a minority in the UK too. Similarly, the English flag should represent the English nation, but it has recently morphed into a symbol against a minority which shouldn’t be tolerated. It’s a nuanced situation at the moment. And while I agree that it shouldn’t be an issue to display your country’s flag, it becomes an issue when it’s used aggressively and makes people feel uncomfortable. If flags are contentious because of insidious and underlying racism then there should be a blanket ban on them in the interim.

I completely agree with this.

In theory I have no problem with people flying flags of their choice and I agree that the St George's Cross has been unfairly demonised historically (mainly because its associated with the working class and a particular type of person).

But in practice I just wouldn't fly an English flag (or a Palestinian flag or a Pride Flag or a Union Jack for that matter). For the same reasons that I wouldn't ever become an obsessive fan of any particular football club. It's facile tribalism which doesn't make sense to me emotionally and I think it's largely negative in its impact.

I think the idea that you are automatically "better" than someone else because of the accident of where you were born or your ethnicity or which football club you support is deeply silly and childish and lacks any kind of intellectual rigour or consistency. And now more than ever, while its being hijacked by people with unpleasant agendas, I question people's motives for wanting to plaster their national identity across everything.

Then there's this (not my picture, but it's in my town). Defo all about patriotism. Certainly nothing nefarious about this. Totally natural place to put the st George's cross...

Nothing racist about this is there? Nah, nothing to see...
FFS

In Wales someone has painted on a mini roundabout. The police announced they were investigating. They've had a drubbing on social media because they're never available to catch the yobbos.

She's not on the breadline now though is she? Her snout is very firmly in the trough, has been for a good few years and it seems she can't read the room and doesn't care who knows it.

I used to think that socialism was about everyone being equal. The Blair and Brown years swiftly disabused me of that idea. As always with socialists it seems that some pigs are more equal than others - to misquote George Orwell.

I know exactly what a champagne socialist is. Here's a definition for you, as you clearly don't.
A champagne socialist is a pejorative term for someone who professes socialist or left wing views but lives a wealthy privileged lifestyle, implying hypocrisy and a disconnect between their stated ideals and their personal conduct. The term suggests that their professed beliefs are insincere or that they fail to live up to the principles of social equality that they advocate.

I used to secretly admire Angela Rayner for how she's got to where she has despite her background but sadly she's turned out to be a massive disappointment, just like every other politician.

How are people supposed to express their dissatisfaction with the scale of illegal immigration in the UK? Voting clearly hasn’t worked and any protest is immediately labelled “far right”. So what options are left?

I think it possibly contravenes planning regulations, and is amazingly tasteless.

Maybe put a flag on your own property instead of vandalising roundabouts, illegally zip-tying polyester flags to lamp-posts, and decorating motorway bridges (in a way that distracts drivers)

@ExtraOnions but in that case why has there not been the same level of opprobrium directed at Palestinian Flags? Whole sections of Tower Hamlets and Birmingham have been festooned with these as well as various other parts of London and the rest of the country including motorways. And of course not to mention a whole raft of events including Glastonbury.

A quick search on Mumsnet shows a far bigger reaction to the current wave of St George and Union flags compared to the widespread erection of Palestinian flags.
And a lot of people on Mumsnet do object to the flying of England and Union flags on people’s own property.

Hmmm,.. well Glastonbury is held on private land, so not sure what your point is there.

I say the same thing for any flags … keep them on your own property.

I’ve not seen one Palestinian Flag round here, so I’m not really concerned about them. I have got streetlights festooned with cheap England flags, because someone has applied for a HMO - they gave only been on a week, and look shit already.

@ExtraOnions there are a number of threads on Mumsnet where people are objecting to the England and Union flags being flown on private property, one this week was started because the poster had asked their neighbour to remove it from their own land.

I live in an area absolutely festooned with Palestinian flags (mostly on public property) so lucky you,

I’ve only seen one with an objection, and that’s the one about selling a property. TBH, I don’t blame the poster … the thugs shouting outside hotels are festooned in crosses of St George, I wouldn’t want to be associated with that shite either.

I’ve not seen one with”multiple threads” about wanting then removed from public property.

With your Palestinian Flags from lampposts ..the council either enforces the rules, or not. You can’t say “this flag is ok, and this one isn’t”. The council dare not remove England Flags, which means that can’t remove any. Imagine the fuss if I hoisted an LGB one up there …

At the end of the day the flags are being used as an anti-immigration protest…and by anti-immigration, I mean non-white immigration. It’s not a massive outpouring of National Pride. It’s ok to not like immigration, you can specifically not like non-white immigration …but in doing so keep your flags on your own property. I’ve got one waving on the lamppost outside my house, and I have no issues with immigration. I don’t like what it currently represents.

I love my country, I proudly British (apart from selling arms to despots, and other nefarious activites)

I like the one on social medial where some idiot has painted a white cross on a red background.

I'm also encouraged by the fact that people are now using the roundabout flags as a background for messages like "UK welcomes all refugees".

“All” refugees welcome? Gosh you must have an enormously positive view of Britain’s economic prospects and the country’s ability to avoid collapsing under its spiralling and record breaking debt burden to think that would be affordable.

Whoever is writing we welcome all refugees is probably also parroting “from the river to the sea” clearly has no comprehension of what they are saying. I wouldn’t be taking any comfort from that

But one flag is the flag of the country on which the flag is being flown. The Palestinian flag is a flag of terrorist rulers. I’d say it’s easy to draw the distinction