To be devasted the roundabout in my town has a crappy 'flag' painted on?

[Liesmorelies]

I nearly threw up when I saw it this morning - what a horrible shock.

It's a very small town in the Midlands near a city. Yes it's ex-mining but does reasonable ok now, not deprived eg no contextual offers for my dc for uni, but not massively desirable or trendy. Has a Labour MP now but hasn't always in recent years. Voted for Brexit but only just. In 2019 more people voted against Tories AND Brexit than for them - split the vote so we still got a Tory, but still.

In other words, I did not expect this. It's horrible - looks ugly and badly done even before you get started on the thinking behind it. AIBU to ring the council on Tuesday and ask when they are going to deal with this vandalism?

I did a four hour round-trip on the motorway today too and the amount of flags on bridges was shocking - just make it stop.

It's Monday...

They are responsible for those reported but we both know that it is not 6% at all. We know there are many more of all ethnicities raping and being covered up.

Which rapes have been covered up?

Tommy Robinson is not a member of Britain First. I think many people think of him when he was younger. You would do well to research recent documentaries. The girls who were used by rape gangs are supported by TR.
The English flag is not a sign of racism. People are getting fed up with recent events and dont want England to be forgotten.
By the way, something some may have forgotten- people of all races are proud to be British.
I am patriotic ( Scottish). I am not a racist
I am not a far right bigot as anyone who is remotely worried about our situation seems to be labeled.

It was really OTT to say you were devastated (presumably that’s what you meant) and that you ‘nearly threw up’.

Stop trying to twist what I say. I said I must live in a nice area meaning with nice people because I don't witness racial abuse.

If you're getting racial abuse on a regular basis then those people aren't nice. I didn't say it was your fault for living there, just that some of the people aren't nice.

I feel like I'm just going round in circles with you.

I can't believe how people are not seeing it. Right there in front of them on their own street in some cases. When I was growing up just one house in our neighbourhood had a flag on display and he was a known racist and far right sympathiser. He was treated with disdain rather than celebrated as some kind of "taking care of are country" hero.

it's tacky, i am not sure it's done for lovely kind reasons and it brings down the value of local properties.

but "devastated" and "throwing up"? stop it. You are an adult.

Whenever England played? So only when the football was on, never just because you were patriotic and loved your country, just loved football.

How bizarre!

All the ones that were ignored by the quota.

Sure.

You said it was my fault for living in a not nice place.

Racism isn't nice. Wow. It is abuse. It is more than 'not nice'.

,Its not the white local men standing openly masturbating in my local playground and shouting at little girls to come and look though is it. Its not the white local men who are following teenage school girls and surrounding them in large groups

Are you having a laugh? Are you seriously saying men who are white don't do this?!

Why should anyone take your concerns seriously now?

People have been trying to have a conversation about immigration for years. Brexit was a shot across the bows and rather than sit up and take notice the remainers continued their campaign of insults.If people tell you they can't get school places, GP appointments or a house to rent it's not advisable to tell them they are stupid racists.

Most of the political left insulted the very people they thought owed them a vote and the right paid lip service to doing something but did nothing and thought they could fool people by sleight of hand. Labour won the last election with fewer votes than they lost with in 2019, it was less of a win and more a vote against the conservatives. People voted for change and got more of the same. Large sections of the population have been disenfranchised by the entire political establishment which effectively cedes ground to people with more extreme agendas.

You were warned and now you want people to take notice of your concerns? It's a bit too late for that, perhaps YOU should have listened earlier.

The CPS admitted it. Why did you not know this if you cared so much about victims of rape and sexual abuse.

It is well documented.

So my rapists confessed. He was allowed to walk free, a year after this policy was introduced to let rapists go to raise the conviction rates.

No, it's a Tommy Robinson inspired Raise the Colours campaign that is making it about racism, but some people refuse to see it. And for the record I have flown both the George Cross and the Union flag on my own property before. For example when England play in a major football tournament, during the 2012 Olympics, when commemorating the victory of the Allies against Nazism...

In the current climate, and knowing what this campaign is really about, it makes me extremely uncomfortable to see it. That's the fault of racists like Tommy, not 'flagphobists'.

Sadly I agree with you. It's a great shame that our national flag has come to be associated with xenophobia, but it seems that it has.

If this was true the country would be better than ever. The fact is migration has gone up and everything has got worse. Funny how the NHS, dentistry etc functioned much better before the population exploded.

Also perhaps if we weren’t being taxed to oblivion to pay billions of pounds a month on benefits to people who have come here before you even get into what it is costing us to house people entering illegally, the government could incentivise and invest in British families to have more children.

It’s not abhorrent to prioritise your own country and people. Every country should do that. It’s not the job of the ordinary British people to look after the entire world.

You have swallowed every falsehood about immigration haven’t you. “ALL of our problems stem from immigration” is the most deluded thing I’ve read on this whole thread.

Can I make a suggestion? Put your post into AI and see what it says. I think you’ll find that every single one of your statements is false. It’s not ‘common sense and undeniable’! That you are going off “common sense” and not facts is scary.

What is undeniable is that there is too much poverty in the UK in 2025 but using the immigrant as a scapegoat for this is completely false. Just because it ‘seems’ to make sense to you doesn’t make it true.

It’s absolutely vile. It’s deliberately organised by the right wing knuckle draggers to intimidate people on the back of those disgusting protests outside hotels. I came home yesterday to my suburb and one main road had them up on every lamp post. Like the original poster I felt sick to my stomach. There is increasing overt racism on Mumsnet, some of which, I believe, is being planted by the far right. Standing in solidarity with you @Liesmorelies

And these flags aren’t about women’s football or rugby. Parties like Reform really don’t give a screw about women and our rights. If those fuckers get in, they WILL go after maternity rights, flexible working, free childcare, the NHS, and, in time, abortion rights (check out Farage’s ‘interests’ over that) Every single time, there is a shift to the far right women’s rights come under attack. Look at the rise of the Nazis…

if you want to be barefoot and pregnant, then go for it.

Oh apparently not. Imagine saying that white men do not do this. Covering up for them, backing them. Supporting them.

Those white rapists really got this one tricked!

So why do they not do it 'to be patriotic' unless their puppet masters tell them to?

And that's fine. But that is not what this campaign is about.

Give me your facts to the contrary then. It’s common sense because it’s blindingly obvious. Not everything has to be intellectualised to be understood. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the explanation. Every month new figures come out about what immigration is costing us. From the UC bill to the hotel bills. Enjoy your tax rises that are coming though, shame people who want this circus to stop can’t opt out and leave people who think this is acceptable to foot the bill.