To be devasted the roundabout in my town has a crappy 'flag' painted on?

[Liesmorelies]

I nearly threw up when I saw it this morning - what a horrible shock.

It's a very small town in the Midlands near a city. Yes it's ex-mining but does reasonable ok now, not deprived eg no contextual offers for my dc for uni, but not massively desirable or trendy. Has a Labour MP now but hasn't always in recent years. Voted for Brexit but only just. In 2019 more people voted against Tories AND Brexit than for them - split the vote so we still got a Tory, but still.

In other words, I did not expect this. It's horrible - looks ugly and badly done even before you get started on the thinking behind it. AIBU to ring the council on Tuesday and ask when they are going to deal with this vandalism?

I did a four hour round-trip on the motorway today too and the amount of flags on bridges was shocking - just make it stop.

I suppose you could put one on the roundabout and spray paint over it.

We had someone spray paint Ainsley Harriot on a roundabout sign. Now that was genius!!

And another one! Out in force tonight boys!

Yes, I see what teenagers are wearing and dressing like. You associated the latest trends with working class when I associate it with teens. Most teens.

Youre so right, so sincere and not at all disingenuous.

For the majority of people it isn't about colour it's about being English / British and you should be allowed to be proud of that, whatever colour you are without being called racist.

Your experience is not mine

I saw this in a news piece online today. I am mixed, ok fine for flags of a country to be flown in the country. But painting a roundabout is just not really helping the cause, and by cause, i am not even sure what the cause is, because it is being interpreted very diffetently by different people. The cause seems to be varied from being proud to be british or english suddenly, to a we want our country back (from who as last time I checked our elected government was still in power), to we just like our flag, to extreme racist views. If there was a unified cause then I could understand it at least.

Get a grip.

I dont think that defacing public areas with paint - often poorly done - is appropriate. However I am in favour of public buildings and individuals (should they wish) feeling able to fly the flag of their country and taking pride in it. That includes the flags of the devolved nations as well as the Union flag. I dont have anywhere to fly a flag where it would be seen. However I have sent for some small Union flag decals for my door and window which will only be seen by any immediate caller. For the record I have been a Conservative all my life but voted Reform in the GE. I am not a poorly educated oik but have the highest academic qualifications its possible to get in UK.

Your classism showing again?

Anyone ekse have visions of the op being like that old catherine tate character who screamed at everything ? Thats what i imagine her homecoming to be like

i agree
Im Brown English British and born in England and proud of all 3

my husband is white English and British and Also proud of all 3

We are the same dispite our difference in colour

Youre so right

And for many it is about having the chance to show their racism without being challenged.

Cough cough
Havent you seen any pictures of Northern Ireland
Wait till they get their brushes out and start painting the kerbstones

I agree it’s intimidating
If it was happening in roundabouts near us I’d be out there scrubbing them clean

Interesting that no-one has explained their opinion of or tried to explain away this incident which is doing the rounds of social media.

Very interesting.

I wouldn't click on anything from that dreadful bunch of far left extremists. They have created alot division and indeed their leader Nick Lowles falsely tweeted that a Muslim woman had been attacked with acid during the Southport riots leading to Muslims rioting - he should have been charged like Connelly.

Well that's quite the strawman isn't it!

I'm well aware of all the things you mention, particularly the grooming gangs as I worked in a role heavily involved in combating online child abuse in the 00s. So believe me, I know far more than I'd like to about that particular issue.

I'm not at all sure what that, or racist crimes against white people, has to do with anything I said though. I certainly didn't say anything to suggest that non-whites don't commit crimes against white people, or that white people are never the victims of racially motivated crime...you appear to have come to that conclusion off your own back.

For clarity - I think the authorities' failures in tackling certain grooming gangs for fear of appearing racist is one of the biggest derelictions of duty my lifetime. And yes, I'm obviously aware that white people can be the victims of racist crimes.

If you could please explain what any of that has to with the post you replied to, I'll happily respond.

Look at all the posters feigning patriotism and refusing to acknowledge the reason the flag was painted.

MN is supposedly full to the brim of self proclaimed 'middle class' people (despite the numerous threads about living in poverty). Therefore, given MN is clearly an accurate representation of the UK female population including an equal number of middle and working class (although I've always strongly suspected it leans more to the working class) it seems the majority of both 'middle' and 'working' classes are in favour of painting flags and agree with what it represents.

This a parody account, yes?
Please tell me that you're joking?

You are allowed to be proud of being English. Nobody has ever suggested otherwise, or tried to stop anyone being proud of being English.

Do you have any examples?