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For thinking that the migrant protests ...

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Ihateboris · 23/08/2025 12:35

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

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Hollyohara · 24/08/2025 15:43

https://archive.md/SpP6T

‘The father of a 14-year-old girl who was allegedly sexually assaulted by an Ethiopian asylum seeker has backed calls to have the hotel where he stayed shut down, it has been claimed.

Epping, a village in Essex, has been gripped by anti-migrant protests outside The Bell Hotel after Hadush Gerberslasie Kebatu was charged with the sexual assault of a 14-year-old girl days after arriving in Britain on a small boat.’

Older article now but one can see why people are angry. To deny that is wilful ignorance. Labour all over

For thinking that the migrant protests ...
Judgejudysno1fan · 24/08/2025 15:45

Coolasfeck · 23/08/2025 13:20

It does amaze me that a huge portion of those outside hotels claim the asylum seekers are criminal leeches when they themselves are often jobless (hence having time to spend shouting outside), have restraining orders against them, don’t see their kids and are on various ‘registers’.

And have a can of Stella in one hand and a bat in the other!

Hollyohara · 24/08/2025 15:46

sexproblems · 24/08/2025 15:39

FFS. So, because some men have been influenced by Andrew Tate, we should accept thousands of foreign men without any papers into our Country? What the fuck?

And on top of that you want to send British men overseas?

What on earth did I just read? Some people are insane!

Absolutely!! Weakens their arguments somewhat doesn’t it.

sexproblems · 24/08/2025 15:49

TheLizardQueen · 24/08/2025 15:40

You are so wrong!! Also they are not suspected sex offenders, one of them in my town has just been jailed for 9 years for the rape of a 14 year old girl. People are starting to wake up and they are angry.

Exactly!

You bring testosterone filled young men over here :

Men who believe that women have no rights......

Men who believe that girls should not be educated....

Men who believe that rape isn't a crime.....

Men who have never seen a woman's breasts or legs, because all women back home are in Burka's......

Men who have never had sex, and have tons of unspent testosterone pumping around their bodies......

Then you try to integrate them into a society where women dress in shorts and crop tops......

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

sexproblems · 24/08/2025 15:54

Judgejudysno1fan · 24/08/2025 15:45

And have a can of Stella in one hand and a bat in the other!

And yet, and yet....if you were walking through a park, and you were being hassled by a gang of migrants, you would run towards the first British men you saw, and you wouldn't give two shits if they had tins of Stella and union jack
t-shirts.

Shakeoffyourchains · 24/08/2025 16:16

The saying "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." is as true today as it ever was.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 16:17

mustytrusty · 24/08/2025 10:06

I live in a seaside town. We have people who come from all over the place here. The population more than doubles over the summer months.

We have people who come from elsewhere who leave rubbish and dirty nappies on the beach. Nobody protests against them.

We have people who come from elsewhere commit crime - fighting, stealing, shoplifting. Nobody protests against them.

We have people who come from elsewhere in camper vans, park on residential streets and add nothing to the local economy. Nobody protests against them.

We have groups of young men who come from elsewhere and drink and puke in the streets and harass women in the pubs and end up in A&E. Nobody protests against them.

We have people who come from elsewhere and 'wild camp' and cause fires with barbecues in areas of outstanding natural beauty. Nobody protests against them.

We have two hotels. Both a bit run-down. They house people who have come to the UK in what people like to call 'illegally'. It's not illegal it's asylum but hey-ho. They are pretty-much corralled in these hotels. They're not out fighting, puking, littering, using the NHS or setting alight to the countryside. There's crowds of people outside 'protesting' their presence.

My point is that we're looking in the wrong direction. These people are the scapegoats for frustrations that are caused more widely and it's a classic 'othering' situation which, we know from history, has never ever ended well.

While we all buy the Daily Mail for the gossip and laugh at Farage and Boris and 'don't bother with politics' and are too busy watching Love Island to read and question any deeper we are getting deeper and deeper into this 'them and us' thing. It's here on this thread already.

We are sleepwalking into fascism and it's only be educating yourself and listening to others and reflecting on things and finding out the truth about things - not just what we're fed in the papers by people with a reason to have the proles fighting amongst themselves - that any change will happen.

If we're looking for an enemy then we're looking in the wrong direction. We should be looking up the food chain, not down it. It's not asylum seekers who want to take from us. It's the people with the money and power who want to keep their money and power and expand on it. It won't be long until we - or our children and their children - will be the 'illegals' / economic migrants / asylum seekers elsewhere if this division in our society is allowed to continue.

It started with Brexit - being separated from others who were akin to us. The US has it with MAGA. It's all about othering and separating people. Divide and conquer.

Indeed. We live next to a large, NW coastal town (until the end of this week when we move), notorious for bad behaviour, drunkenness, fights, drug dealing. The overwhelming majority of these behaviours is committed by white, British citizens, male and female. Because of its relative proximity to many of the mill towns where immigrant workers were needed, there are also many Muslim families visiting. Their behaviour is generally exemplary in comparison, males, females and children.

Charlthg · 24/08/2025 16:30

Somerford · 24/08/2025 15:38

The pattern these things often follow seems to be:

Its not happening, you're lying.

Ok it is happening but its not that bad.

Ok it is happening and its as bad as you said it was but actually its your fault and you deserve it because of colonialism. And you're a racist.

Just like the grooming gangs

Ablondiebutagoody · 24/08/2025 16:35

Charlthg · 24/08/2025 15:28

Except the parents in Epping have been complaining that hotel residents have been harassing schoolgirls, asking to add them on Snapchat etc.

It’s not imagined. It’s happening. The girls are telling their parents.

Why is the left so keen to advocate for people’s lived experiences until it’s the lived experience of young girls being harassed by migrant men. Then they start making excuses and calling people racist. It doesn’t wash anymore, you can’t shit people up by calling them racist.

Come on, you know this. Those girls can be sacrificed if it gives us an opportunity to show how tolerant, inclusive and anti-racist we are. Doubly so if they are poor, working class girls.

sexproblems · 24/08/2025 16:40

Charlthg · 24/08/2025 16:30

Just like the grooming gangs

The grooming gangs that Sadiq Khan has never heard of. Hmm, funny that.

Somerford · 24/08/2025 16:42

Ablondiebutagoody · 24/08/2025 16:35

Come on, you know this. Those girls can be sacrificed if it gives us an opportunity to show how tolerant, inclusive and anti-racist we are. Doubly so if they are poor, working class girls.

They're collateral damage. Sacrificed on the altar of leftism.

Charlthg · 24/08/2025 16:43

Ihateboris · 24/08/2025 12:41

Total hypocrisy as many of the protestors are paedophiles, rapists and wife beaters themselves. So, what they're actually saying is "we can beat and rape, but you can't?"

This argument is so idiotic and pathetic, it’s unreal.

Its basically saying, we have some rapists in this country, let’s add to the problem by bringing people in huge numbers from countries where it’s an even bigger problem.

Hollyohara · 24/08/2025 16:45

Ablondiebutagoody · 24/08/2025 16:35

Come on, you know this. Those girls can be sacrificed if it gives us an opportunity to show how tolerant, inclusive and anti-racist we are. Doubly so if they are poor, working class girls.

Yes. They’re Are ‘child prostitutes’ after all.

Charlthg · 24/08/2025 16:50

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MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 16:55

Somerford · 24/08/2025 15:09

If our country becomes more attractive to refugees because they already have an established community here or they have friends or relatives here, it follows that the more we allow in, the more will want to come. So the problem will grow exponentially. Thats not a very attractive proposition.

Your position is that immigration is a problem. It isn’t. If every immigrant in the UK upped sticks and left tomorrow, UK society would be in deep trouble. The NHS, care homes, hospitality, supermarkets, warehouses, many trades would collapse overnight.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 16:56

Going back generations, Somerford, it’s quite likely that you wouldn’t be here today without immigration.

Somerford · 24/08/2025 16:57

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 16:55

Your position is that immigration is a problem. It isn’t. If every immigrant in the UK upped sticks and left tomorrow, UK society would be in deep trouble. The NHS, care homes, hospitality, supermarkets, warehouses, many trades would collapse overnight.

"Your position is that immigration is a problem".

No it's not. So the rest of your post is irrelevant.

Somerford · 24/08/2025 17:00

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 16:56

Going back generations, Somerford, it’s quite likely that you wouldn’t be here today without immigration.

Quite likely? My father was an immigrant, I'm mixed race.

MoneyTaIks · 24/08/2025 17:03

hotelinfo · 24/08/2025 07:43

If you want to talk 'statistics,' you and your children are far more at risk from sexual assault from men you know - including your own family members, your friends, your own neighbours, etc - than a random 'foreign national' in the street.

What do you even mean by 'foreign nationals' anyway?

Well, we're all more likely to die driving to work/the shops than we are to be murdered by a man so maybe we shouldn't worry about male violence
at all. 🤷

Upupandaway10 · 24/08/2025 17:06

You started off so well on your 1st paragraph “there is an adult conversation to be had…that doesn’t involve lumping everyone together ” then you did the exact opposite and blamed “these people”

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 17:08

Somerford · 24/08/2025 16:57

"Your position is that immigration is a problem".

No it's not. So the rest of your post is irrelevant.

You said “the problem grows exponentially”?

Somerford · 24/08/2025 17:11

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 17:08

You said “the problem grows exponentially”?

I said that about refugees, not all immigrants.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 17:14

Fair enough, my mistake. Though I welcome refugees granted settlement so don’t see them as a problem anyway. It could be argued that asylum seekers might have more of a case than economic immigrants for leave to remain 🤷‍♀️

Charlthg · 24/08/2025 17:15

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/08/2025 17:08

You said “the problem grows exponentially”?

Mass immigration and the numbers we have currently is a problem. Both legal and illegal. But the illegal migration is especially egregious.

Your attempt to paint anyone questioning the numbers or wanting a stop to illegal immigration as racist is a bit outdated and frankly tired.

What is your argument for mass immigration being a good thing.

MoneyTaIks · 24/08/2025 17:25

What’s weird about the people going on about ‘cultures who don’t respect women’ is it seems like people are mostly talking about governments? Like, the taliban are a bit fucked up about women but how does that have any more impact on how the average afghani dude is than how Keir starmer affects the average UK person.

Well, there is the latest gov data (reluctantly released following FOI requests) that shows Afghan and Eritrean men being 20x more likely to commit sex crimes in the UK.

EDIT: I did link the above data earlier in the thread.

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