For thinking that the migrant protests ...

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Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

X can be a cesspit, agreed. But so can any social media site. Bluesky is a cesspit of progressivism, for instance.

The real point about X is that you get to see a non-curated version of events. For instance, in the Southport riots, none of the mainstream media covered the huge turnout of Muslim men carrying weapons and in one instance, charging the police. You had to be on X to see what was actually happening on the ground. Over and over again you see things on X that go completely unreported by the media. So yes, you can get distortions and bias, but you also get a perspective on what is happening on the streets.

My prediction too.

This is true and it's in the schools too. Groups of Muslim children do not mix in my kids high school. They speak in their language and abuse the other pupils.

Absolutely. When a person complains someone’s posts go ‘unchallenged’, they generally mean they’ve not been censored (ie closed down), because they don’t want the other side of the coin out there. They want total monopoly on what the media feeds to us. That’s how the left operate..

Immigration is controlled by the government, but there are parameters they have to work within - laws and conventions. These are not randomly invented laws and rules - any laws/rules in this country are made by a long process involving executive (government, including HoC) and legislative (Parliament) - all of whom the British people have voted in, current and past. This is how everyone has and has had a role in the laws/rules we currently have - including around immigration. The judiciary have a role interpreting the laws and can affect how legislative decisions are applied or will be made in future, eg/ rape in marriage first raised via courts. Also eg/ R v Uxbridge ruling on asylum seekers being allowed to pass through other countries and claim in the U.K. Just also note the U.K. has also had a large part to play in the conventions and such courts as the ECHR - they’re not randomly imposed on us.
The laws/rules are developed through our own ‘culture’ ‘societal norms’ including our approach to immigration- this approach to immigration literally is our culture to date.
Also, there were many more votes for Liberal/Green/Labour than there were for Britain First type parties in 2024, which
suggests then that actually it is a vocal minority protesting at hotels, and we perhaps should accept there is a majority will of the people who don’t want the U.K. to descend into hatred shouting at asylum seekers.
Anyway, if asylum seekers were stopped entering the U.K. what would people expect to be improved? Do we no longer need to protect our women and children then? Will the NHS improve? Is it all sunlit uplands again? Or would it be a case of the ‘wrong sort’ of stop the boats, and something else and/or other people to be blamed.

There was a council by-election in one of the most diverse (and deprived) wards where I live. Reform came fourth.

There was also a by-election in a majority white, deprived area. Reform didn't win there either, although it did come second.

Both by-elections were within the past two months, so very recent.

Make of that what you will.

This is spot on

I seem to remember reading that GBNews had overtaken the BBC as the most watched news channel just this month.

That doesn’t prove anything. I live in a very diverse area. Reform came 4th here too. But bearing in mind a lot of diverse areas contain people who are not white, I think you can safely say the demographic in that area are not going to vote Reform are they? Hence why you reference a predominantly white area where Reform came second, which is quite an achievement for a relatively newish party (when comparing to well established ones).

Is that not because watching news channels is quite old fashioned therefore just represents the older generation who still watch them moving to GB news rather than their “fan base” increasingly on overall?

@Livelovebehappy - I live in London Zone 2

The fact is, we all know the type of people who feel the need to stand and shout outside these hotels. We know the mentality. Let's not pretend otherwise.

Sssshhhh you can't say that. The left says it's racist

Hang on ! What, wait !? ... You just said that ??? You said because someone is black or brown they wouldn't have voted reform !?!

I can't believe what I've just read 😮

Utterly deluded.

Those with visas aren’t in hotels.
Stop conflating different categories of immigrants, please.

I'm in utter disbelief at what you've said...

Do you think all black and brown people aren't born in the UK !? And automatically will be pro mass illegal immigration and feel affiliated to foreigners!? And thus won't vote reform. Wow!!

Another very stark example of the so unracist left that they're actually racist.....

Maybe, but they are expressing what a lot of us are thinking.

I’m not sure you’re understanding what I’m saying. Because of such rapid ridiculous mass immigration of staggering numbers this isn’t going away, ever. It’s the beginning of the UK's sectarian future.

But London has been very diverse for a few decades now, and can absorb some immigrants coming on boats comfortably. Smaller towns cannot. I think that’s what a lot of people in London can’t get their heads round. The majority of the people coming on boats have been sent to places in the North, where there are already deprived areas, and struggling infrastructure. The cultural differences are therefore a lot more apparent, and it’s becoming increasingly clear that they don’t integrate and are putting huge pressure on an already collapsing infrastructure. London meanwhile, in the main, will not feel the impact. It’s a huge city already host to many different cultures. And having lived in London myself years ago, and having friends who do still live there, immigration is definitely a concern in some parts of London.

The diverse area is 54% white. If the white people in the area were so unhappy about immigration (and as pp pointed out, you are assuming that no-one else living in the area would be concerned) why didn't they get out and vote Reform in big numbers?

I think what the two results show is the people most worried about immigration often live in mainly white areas.

Anyway, the elections next year might give us more insight into how people are really feeling. It will be interesting.

They absolutely will not vote Reform. We have many forums and boards where I live, and very much the majority consensus amongst people of a different culture are that in solidarity with others who are coming here, they would never vote Reform, because many are from generations of immigrants themselves. That’s not to say of course that some won’t vote Reform, but the majority will not. And that’s fine. Voting is a personal choice and you have to do what feels right for you. I haven’t voted Reform, but still can have concerns about immigration.

and we all know the type of people stood outside hotels in balaclavas draped Palestine flags. I Let’s not pretend otherwise

Have you got a source for that, please?

I thought the success rate fell to below 50% in the last couple of years, because of changes to asylum law in 2022.

It will be interesting. I guess we won’t have a totally clear picture of just where we are with this until we have crosses in boxes, and the result.

So black and brown British people will "automatically not vote reform " ok..... We've got an event bigger problem then I thought then if every single UK born black and brown British person is pro mass illegal immigrants arriving on boats......