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For thinking that the migrant protests ...

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Ihateboris · 23/08/2025 12:35

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

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BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 10:29

I think some people need to start to get their head around just how angry the majority of the UK is.

It’s a vocal minority. Most of us are keeping cool heads and maintaining some perspective.

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 10:29

BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 10:29

I think some people need to start to get their head around just how angry the majority of the UK is.

It’s a vocal minority. Most of us are keeping cool heads and maintaining some perspective.

Aka in denial.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 24/08/2025 10:30

BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 10:29

I think some people need to start to get their head around just how angry the majority of the UK is.

It’s a vocal minority. Most of us are keeping cool heads and maintaining some perspective.

Nope.

BlueJuniper94 · 24/08/2025 10:30

BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 10:29

I think some people need to start to get their head around just how angry the majority of the UK is.

It’s a vocal minority. Most of us are keeping cool heads and maintaining some perspective.

How can you possibly know this

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 24/08/2025 10:32

BlueJuniper94 · 24/08/2025 10:30

How can you possibly know this

echo chamber

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 10:34

Inchworms · 24/08/2025 10:27

well, good luck to you is all I can say. Have fun protecting white dudes, god knows I do not care to. Now anyway, immigration….

I never "protected white dudes" (do you also say "black dudes" too ?...)

I pointed out your hypocrisy and you didn't like it.

hotelinfo · 24/08/2025 10:34

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 10:27

Absolutely agree we have some crap men we walk amongst. But they are British born. Nothing we can do about them. They are what they are, and unless they break the law when we can incarcerate them, there’s nothing we can do. And it’s also highly unlikely the rest of the world should, or would, welcome them. But the point is we can currently determine the quality of people we allow to settle in the UK, so we should be working hard not to accept them if accepting them in large numbers is going to negatively impact our country. Sometimes cultural differences are too great to accommodate either party.

The point is, there are horrendous men in all cultures. These men using the 'women's safety' card as an excuse for blatant yob-style racism fool nobody. I think most women would get more sense out of a random asylum seeker than one of them, any day of the week.

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 10:35

BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 10:29

I think some people need to start to get their head around just how angry the majority of the UK is.

It’s a vocal minority. Most of us are keeping cool heads and maintaining some perspective.

That’s a myth. It’s like saying just because there aren’t thousands of people marching through London every weekend, that it’s only the ones on the streets who care about immigration. The majority are sat in their homes, quietly getting on with their life’s, while still having huge concerns about immigration. A lot of us concerned about uncontrolled immigration are just normal, rational people who have neither the time or the urge to parade the streets.

BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 10:36

A lot of us concerned about uncontrolled immigration are just normal, rational people

Not if you’re using this thread as evidence.

Confusdworriedmum · 24/08/2025 10:37

Coolasfeck · 23/08/2025 13:20

It does amaze me that a huge portion of those outside hotels claim the asylum seekers are criminal leeches when they themselves are often jobless (hence having time to spend shouting outside), have restraining orders against them, don’t see their kids and are on various ‘registers’.

Are they? Is there evidence to show all the protesters are jobless and criminals? Is there evidence they all don't see their children?
I mean I accept they might be I just haven't seen any evidence to suggest this.

Phobiaphobic · 24/08/2025 10:37

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 09:52

I'm just going to advertise this as I think it's important:

@Inchworms has openly admitted: it's never ok to generalise about foreign asylum seekers

It is ok to generalise about white working class middle aged males

There we have it.

Shocking isn't it .....

Bang on the money.

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 10:37

hotelinfo · 24/08/2025 10:34

The point is, there are horrendous men in all cultures. These men using the 'women's safety' card as an excuse for blatant yob-style racism fool nobody. I think most women would get more sense out of a random asylum seeker than one of them, any day of the week.

The English couple also thought they could have a "nice chat" with locals in Iran.....

PandoraSocks · 24/08/2025 10:38

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 24/08/2025 10:26

Did you think I’d presented it as a comprehensive list of the UK’s values? Does that sound plausible?

You may not share the values of some people on here and it’s fine to disagree. But when someone’s values put my children and grandchildren’s future quality of life at risk, then we’re going to have a big problem. Shouting racist, wife beater, bald whatever phobic isn’t going to make this go away and I think some people need to start to get their head around just how angry the majority of the UK is.

If the majority of people in the UK are so angry, why have the protests been so small in number? Why aren't there thousands of people on the streets? A lot of the protests have been damp squibs. For example:

For thinking that the migrant protests ...
SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 10:39

BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 10:36

A lot of us concerned about uncontrolled immigration are just normal, rational people

Not if you’re using this thread as evidence.

I don't think I've seen any irrational comments from that side of the debate (just truths you don't like )

The other side however ......

BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 10:40

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 10:37

The English couple also thought they could have a "nice chat" with locals in Iran.....

They went there against Foreign Office advice and were suspected of espionage. They’re of absolutely no relevance to a debate about immigration.

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 10:41

hotelinfo · 24/08/2025 10:34

The point is, there are horrendous men in all cultures. These men using the 'women's safety' card as an excuse for blatant yob-style racism fool nobody. I think most women would get more sense out of a random asylum seeker than one of them, any day of the week.

But they represent a minority, just like you get a minority of Palestinians marchers chanting antisemitic phrases. They don’t necessarily represent the thoughts of all those with concerns about immigration. My reasoning is multiple, and safety of our women from men who have been raised to be hostile towards us is on my list, but by no means represents all my concerns. I do think also, based on media videos, that that’s not solely what these people are chanting about, but has been jumped on to try to prove a point by those who feel there should be no concerns about immigration.

hotelinfo · 24/08/2025 10:42

I'm overseas at the moment, but, according to the BBC World News, there have been 'a dozen' protests outside some hotels today. That's it. And some morons have hung up a few flags in Birmingham or some such.

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 10:43

PandoraSocks · 24/08/2025 10:38

If the majority of people in the UK are so angry, why have the protests been so small in number? Why aren't there thousands of people on the streets? A lot of the protests have been damp squibs. For example:

Most everyday people have jobs to protect, professional registrations, they have children off school, they have fear of what people will think about them and say about them (hence this thread rhetoric ) so they let the figureheads do the action , whilst they're at home silently glad that someone dares say something .

Just like the reform voters , that will be your very normal neighbour, friend, GP, shop manager, person filling out your council tax form... Plus some. Wake up.

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 10:44

PandoraSocks · 24/08/2025 10:38

If the majority of people in the UK are so angry, why have the protests been so small in number? Why aren't there thousands of people on the streets? A lot of the protests have been damp squibs. For example:

Because we shouldn’t have to walk the streets to debate about something we feel strongly about. Isn’t that obvious? For example I lobby my local MP, as I suspect many do, because clearly Starmer is concerned enough about the issue that he is trying now to show he is doing something. He certainly wouldn’t be basing this, and the polls wouldn’t be suggesting immigration is a major concern, if he was just basing it on a handful of street protestors.

Julen7 · 24/08/2025 10:44

BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 10:29

I think some people need to start to get their head around just how angry the majority of the UK is.

It’s a vocal minority. Most of us are keeping cool heads and maintaining some perspective.

It is absolutely not a minority. Starmer wouldn’t be getting his knickers in a twist over a minority.

BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 10:45

they have fear of what people will think about them and say about them

They wouldn’t need to if they were convinced they were right and part of an angry majority.

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 10:46

BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 10:40

They went there against Foreign Office advice and were suspected of espionage. They’re of absolutely no relevance to a debate about immigration.

Oh ... Honestly? I don't think I realised the level of naiveté I was dealing with....

"Suspected of espionage??" You believe that ? You actually believe that !? That's what they say in order to use them as political bargaining chips ? Tail as old as time!!!!!!!

My gosh (shakes head )

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2025 10:46

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 10:44

Because we shouldn’t have to walk the streets to debate about something we feel strongly about. Isn’t that obvious? For example I lobby my local MP, as I suspect many do, because clearly Starmer is concerned enough about the issue that he is trying now to show he is doing something. He certainly wouldn’t be basing this, and the polls wouldn’t be suggesting immigration is a major concern, if he was just basing it on a handful of street protestors.

Would you protest outside hospitals with concerns about the NHS funding? Outside schools, police stations, churches?

Hollyohara · 24/08/2025 10:46

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 10:43

Most everyday people have jobs to protect, professional registrations, they have children off school, they have fear of what people will think about them and say about them (hence this thread rhetoric ) so they let the figureheads do the action , whilst they're at home silently glad that someone dares say something .

Just like the reform voters , that will be your very normal neighbour, friend, GP, shop manager, person filling out your council tax form... Plus some. Wake up.

Not Listening La La GIF by Ranveer Singh

You are speaking much sense. Sadly it’s sense that the Labour luvvies don’t want hear or believe. 🙉

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