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National ID Cards

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Chakhakhan77 · 19/08/2025 09:40

Do you believe the government will bring them in? Keep seeing reports of this, freedom of speech slowly being taken away. Lots of videos of big crowds in city centres protesting about immigration. Are these AI videos? Are people/media exaggerating on the number of boats bringing people in? I don't know what is real anymore!

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TrixieFatell · 20/08/2025 19:54

The amount of people that go on about conspiracies around id cards and control, when they are posting about it on their social media account, from their phone is ridiculous. How is an id card going to control you anymore than other id forms.

smallglassbottle · 20/08/2025 19:56

TrixieFatell · 20/08/2025 19:54

The amount of people that go on about conspiracies around id cards and control, when they are posting about it on their social media account, from their phone is ridiculous. How is an id card going to control you anymore than other id forms.

Because it will centralise a lot of data about you and your banking will eventually be incorporated into this system.

Do people think it's just a photo card or something?

smallglassbottle · 20/08/2025 20:05

The government aren't even intelligent enough to know how vpns work apparently, so what makes people want to trust them with sensitive personal data?

GentleSheep · 20/08/2025 21:32

TrixieFatell · 20/08/2025 19:54

The amount of people that go on about conspiracies around id cards and control, when they are posting about it on their social media account, from their phone is ridiculous. How is an id card going to control you anymore than other id forms.

You're failing to understand what is involved here. RedToothbrush just explained a lot of the concerns a few posts back. One huge issue is who will get their hands on your data, because you can be sure any system will eventually be compromised and data will be leaked and sold on the Dark Web.

Look at 23andMe who had a lot of customers genetic information stolen:

Between April and September 2023, a hacker carried out a credential stuffing attack on 23andMe’s platform, exploiting reused login credentials that were stolen from previous unrelated data breaches. This resulted in the unauthorised access to personal information belonging to 155,592 UK residents, potentially revealing names, birth years, self-reported city or postcode-level location, profile images, race, ethnicity, family trees and health reports. The type and amount of personal information accessed varied depending on the information included in a customer's account.

From:
https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/media-centre/news-and-blogs/2025/06/23andme-fined-for-failing-to-protect-uk-users-genetic-data/

Imagine where you also have facial recognition data (and by the way you'll need to give facial recognition as well as fingerprints AND a passport to enter the EU soon - and that data will be stored for a minimum of 3 years!

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/the-eu-entry-exit-system-and-eu-travel-authorisation-system/

All you need now is a malevolent government and bingo, suddenly you can find yourself in trouble for breaking whatever rules they put in place, and you will have little way out of it as all your important data will be on record.

MissAmbrosia · 21/08/2025 14:42

All your worldly information does not reside on the card. I'm in Belgium - the ID contains my information from the population register - name, dob, address, residence status. It is a chip and pin card. All the different agencies whatever have their own systems, not all joined together, BUT they need my card /registration information for me to access them. So there is a Health system, a finance system, a pension system, the police, the local authority etc etc. To log into any of these needs either a card reader and PIN or a multi factor authentication app which I have on my phone. In Belgium, in theory at least, they know who you are, where you live - they check this - who is legally domiciled with you and your status. It is much harder to access anything without ID and spot checks are carried out on businesses to check they are not using workers who don't have the right to work in the UK.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 21/08/2025 14:46

Tiredofwhataboutery · 19/08/2025 09:54

Lots of countries in Europe have these and it’s mandatory to carry them. I’m really not that bothered but I was used to it when living in the Netherlands. I was always jealous if friends travelling in Europe with their comparatively cheap national ID cards whilst I had to bring my passport in pre brexit days.

I do think immigration issue has really come to a head. I don’t think there are easy answers lots of people would qualify as refugees, tens if not hundreds of millions surely? The rules need to change to nearest safe country.

The vast majority DO stop in the nearest safe country. Check out figures globally. Countries like Pakistan and Turkey have huge numbers of asylum seekers.

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