To ask those who are not white brittish how they feel about the flags?

[PicaK]

Birmingham and Tower Hamlets are having St George England flags put up by privately funded groups.
I'm horrified by the implicit racism. I've seen a lot of white people applauding this and "time we took back the country" comments.
I haven't seen many non white people commenting. My feel is that they are too intimidated to do so. Am I right? Or is it indifference or is it that you're dealing with racism on a daily level and this is just one more thing.
Please don't post if you're white.whatever you feel about the flags. I want to hear on white viewd

This.

So you think he called himself Turkish at the time? A country that didn't exist yet. We're talking about the nationality then, not the name of the patch of earth now.

Let me use my black skin privilege to say that the English flag and union jack are great and the OP is the kind of person who creates division.

That’s exactly what you said
if you can't see how the flags are being misused to stir up racial and religious intolerance then you are being naive

Only by racists

Just to confirm that’s not actually the case. The flag represents the unification of England with Scotland and Ireland under one monarch, and Wales and England were already considered to be ‘unified’, so Wales isn’t actually represented on there on its own.

FFS!🙄 Glad to see common sense prevailing, and an overwhelming amount of posters think YABU. Racist, flying your OWN country's flag. All the LOLz!

Get a grip FFS @PicaK You wouldn't say that about ANY ofher country, except England. People who are 'not British' are not remotely offended by the English flag. None that I know anyway. It's pretty much just (usually white,) English people (social justice warriors) who crow about how 'racist' it is. Do you even know what you mean by 'Not British?' You don't do you?

Can you imagine the uproar if someone came on here and posted 'please don't post if you're black'?

An increasing proportion of people in this country are thoroughly fed up and done with 'progressive' anything.

No, because the queer community themselves reclaimed the word - not straight people.

If non-white British communities reclaimed the St George's Cross that'd be the equivalent. Oddly enough I don't foresee this happening.

The OP asked a question. They wanted to hear from a specific demographic. How is that creating division?

Agreed. Racism works in all directions.

It appears to be part of "Operation Raise the Colours".

The reason for it here

https://www.tiktok.com/@adventureoftheswa/video/7539563581352742166

Starts well but really lets himself down at the end.

This is a response to @Didshejustsaythatoutloud’s comment from 2.29 - sorry, forgot to quote and tag you!

Oh god yes. We also often say this. The not so smart "gooddoing" is often just making it worse.

Load of biased nonsense. based on a poll of just 2000 people.

And just because 24% of the 2000 people 'consider the England flag racist' that doesn't mean it is FGS. 🙄

Agreed (with Skippy67)

I took the OP to only be that they wanted non-whites to express how they felt. I don't see a problem with that (as a white childless male posting on Mumsnet!)

The op only wanted the opinions of non white people.
Imagine if that was reversed on a post?
Its not acceptable and racist either way.

Why can’t English people do that? Put up their own flag?

No, not joking. I genuinely thought the red represented Wales. The blue was us (Scotland) white (England) upon googling i am gobsmacked, i didnt think NI was on it.
i do humbly apologise if ive caused offence by my ignorance 💐

Sorry - replied to wrong post

They've also managed to hang most of the Union Jack ones upside down. Which seems a bit insulting to me. By all means tell me what country I live in. But - for the love of God - get it right.

Well he's a cunt isn't he

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Exactly! The irony is spectacular, from someone who is accusing others of racism! 🙄