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Sister needs weight loss jabs but doesn’t qualify

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Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 15/08/2025 00:00

My step sister has been struggling with her weight all her life
In order fir her to keep her weight stable she has been fighting food noise and cravings since about 13 but has resisted which she describes as a full time job along with exercise which is baked into her life but she hates.
she is a healthy weight and quite slim but at 44 wants a breather from her life revolving around food and food noise.
She wants the jab for some time off all this

Im fat and qualify and use the jabs - 3.5 stone down but still very overweight and now finding that that the suppression lasts longer so have agreed to order my next lot as the starting dose of 2.5 for her so she can have a month or two off

AIBU
she is riddled with food noise and has had over 30 years from a teen with total
food obsession. Virtually sticking her fist in her mouth and doing exercises rather than overeat
agreed she hasn’t put weight on by overeating as has managed not giving in but this has been torture for her and she needs a break

OP posts:
SwingTheMonkey · 15/08/2025 09:29

Ontheedgeofit · 15/08/2025 09:19

If you read the countless threads on this subject every fatty becomes a doctor and declares how unsafe the drugs are for anyone (the borderline skinnies or fatties) but themselves…

The drugs come with risks for everyone. Currently, the risk to someone who is obese, is outweighed by the risk of obesity related illnesses. If in the future, the drug can be made safer, I’d be chuffed for anyone who struggles to maintain a healthy BMI to have access. Because I’m not a nasty, bitter cunt.

Your tone in your replies tells me everything I need to know about your attitude towards overweight people. Thank goodness op has posted this goady load of shite so that people like you can let everyone know how you feel.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 09:31

Ontheedgeofit · 15/08/2025 09:19

If you read the countless threads on this subject every fatty becomes a doctor and declares how unsafe the drugs are for anyone (the borderline skinnies or fatties) but themselves…

I’m not a fatty and neither is my DH, who takes mounjaro for type 2 diabetes. And l wouldn’t countenance giving any of your own prescribed drugs to someone else. Why should weight loss drugs be any different ? And if OP is getting the drug on the NHS then she’s diverting resources that are not meant to be used in this way. One of the most ridiculous statements l’ve seen in a long time was when OP said earlier in the thread that if her sister gained another two stones she would qualify. Utterly meaningless. If she wants to use mounjaro in this way she should buy it herself. It’s available for anyone willing to take the risk of taking it it without the mandatory medical checks for NHS use.

Rosscameasdoody · 15/08/2025 09:35

SwingTheMonkey · 15/08/2025 09:29

The drugs come with risks for everyone. Currently, the risk to someone who is obese, is outweighed by the risk of obesity related illnesses. If in the future, the drug can be made safer, I’d be chuffed for anyone who struggles to maintain a healthy BMI to have access. Because I’m not a nasty, bitter cunt.

Your tone in your replies tells me everything I need to know about your attitude towards overweight people. Thank goodness op has posted this goady load of shite so that people like you can let everyone know how you feel.

The poster has also lost sight of the fact that these drugs facilitate weight loss as a side effect. Mounjaro was developed to treat type 2 diabetes.

Idontjetwashthefucker · 15/08/2025 09:35

AliceMcK · 15/08/2025 02:11

What are the reasons she dosnt qualify? This would be my biggest issue. I have a friend who wanted me to do similar, I personally felt she didn’t need them but my main reasoning was she had to many health issues I was not going to be responsible if something happened to her. In the end I was able to convince her the dangers with her health.

I personally would do it in your situation but only if you and DSis had done all the checks on her health and made sure there wasn’t something that would clash with the drug.

Also be careful as the food noise can come back even stronger, mine came back with a vengeance when I stopped last time and when you start retaking you may not have the same effects you’ve had after taking a break.

Did you read any of OPs posts? The main reason is she isn't overweight!

BIossomtoes · 15/08/2025 09:36

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 15/08/2025 00:12

When I get to her weight I will still qualify for them?
so not sure where there harm is ?
If she put on two stone she would qualify anyway?

she just wants a breather

No she wouldn’t. Your BMI has to be in the clinically obese range to get them. Your prescription will stop if you move out of that range. I don’t know who’s most unreasonable - you or your sister.

Ontheedgeofit · 15/08/2025 09:38

SwingTheMonkey · 15/08/2025 09:29

The drugs come with risks for everyone. Currently, the risk to someone who is obese, is outweighed by the risk of obesity related illnesses. If in the future, the drug can be made safer, I’d be chuffed for anyone who struggles to maintain a healthy BMI to have access. Because I’m not a nasty, bitter cunt.

Your tone in your replies tells me everything I need to know about your attitude towards overweight people. Thank goodness op has posted this goady load of shite so that people like you can let everyone know how you feel.

My point is the rather meaningless measurement of BMI being the deciding factor. Should you be one below this then you do not qualify yet your struggles are the same save for either being a little taller and weighing a little less than your counterpart.

if people are so concerned about the risks or so in favor of its benefits then the criteria for inclusion should be looked at. The OPs sister just needs to sit back and put on some pounds to get the relief that all the overweight people are fawning over.

SwingTheMonkey · 15/08/2025 09:51

Ontheedgeofit · 15/08/2025 09:38

My point is the rather meaningless measurement of BMI being the deciding factor. Should you be one below this then you do not qualify yet your struggles are the same save for either being a little taller and weighing a little less than your counterpart.

if people are so concerned about the risks or so in favor of its benefits then the criteria for inclusion should be looked at. The OPs sister just needs to sit back and put on some pounds to get the relief that all the overweight people are fawning over.

Look, you’re bitter, we get it.

Those are the current guidelines for prescribing and, contrary to what you seem to think, overweight people have absolutely nothing to do with that and can’t change the situation. Not a single ‘fatty’ has said they don’t want healthy weight people to have access to them, should they be deemed suitable in the future.

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 15/08/2025 10:00

SwingTheMonkey · 15/08/2025 09:51

Look, you’re bitter, we get it.

Those are the current guidelines for prescribing and, contrary to what you seem to think, overweight people have absolutely nothing to do with that and can’t change the situation. Not a single ‘fatty’ has said they don’t want healthy weight people to have access to them, should they be deemed suitable in the future.

Edited

Apparently they are prescribed without a BMI requirement in Australia according to one PP so I guess research must have been done. I might try to find it and link as that’s interesting.
Hopefully will be rolled out here the same.

OP posts:
SwingTheMonkey · 15/08/2025 10:03

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 15/08/2025 10:00

Apparently they are prescribed without a BMI requirement in Australia according to one PP so I guess research must have been done. I might try to find it and link as that’s interesting.
Hopefully will be rolled out here the same.

No, you’ve misunderstood. They are prescribed to people 30 BMI and over. They just don’t carry out any checks to make sure the patient actually does have a BMI 30 or over.

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 15/08/2025 10:29

SwingTheMonkey · 15/08/2025 10:03

No, you’ve misunderstood. They are prescribed to people 30 BMI and over. They just don’t carry out any checks to make sure the patient actually does have a BMI 30 or over.

Ah ok, bummer
I see what you mean thanks for clarifying

OP posts:
Disturbia81 · 15/08/2025 10:46

mamabearlove · 15/08/2025 01:16

Everything you have said about your sister screams ED and that is why the injections are heavily regulated. Do not share your injections with anyone!

Yep the two people I know who were a healthy weight have now awoken their ED with avengence and have kidney problems now.

Locutus2000 · 15/08/2025 11:05

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 15/08/2025 08:32

That’s how it seems
but when a fat person like me gets to her weight they will still be able to continue taking the jab to lose more and then to keep the weight off
I don’t get it

I don’t get it

We can see that. You have been given ample advice yet keep sea-lioning with 'questions'.

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 15/08/2025 12:26

Love ‘sea lioning’ I’ll use that one !!

Thanks all for the advice It was a bonkers idea plus I need to stock up
myself on the 15mg as the price is going up apparently.

Ive sent the thread over as well as some off the WLI forum.

She totally gets it and will go online herself layered up (pound coins in pockets) and knock a couple of inches off or get from her Botox lady.
Or carry on as she is until- crossing everything- they become available to all regardless of BMI.

Either way I won’t get it on her behalf.
So leaving the thread now
thanks

OP posts:
PinkArt · 15/08/2025 12:31

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 15/08/2025 12:26

Love ‘sea lioning’ I’ll use that one !!

Thanks all for the advice It was a bonkers idea plus I need to stock up
myself on the 15mg as the price is going up apparently.

Ive sent the thread over as well as some off the WLI forum.

She totally gets it and will go online herself layered up (pound coins in pockets) and knock a couple of inches off or get from her Botox lady.
Or carry on as she is until- crossing everything- they become available to all regardless of BMI.

Either way I won’t get it on her behalf.
So leaving the thread now
thanks

Perfect. The ideal alternative to you fraudulently getting prescription meds for someone else for a disease she doesn't have was definitely getting 'layered up with pound coins' or 'getting it from her botox lady'. So glad there's a healthy and not at all fucked up solution here for your sister and she's not doing anything silly like talking to a MH counsellor.

xsquared · 15/08/2025 14:17

@Mondaytuesdayhappydays
Your sister doesn't qualify because she's not obese and therefore doesn't need them. It sounds more like she has an eating disorder.

As for her exaggerating her weight and lying about her height etc. Good luck with that.

If she needs to be 2 stone over to qualify, as you say, then that is the equivalent to 12.7kg worth of £1 coins that she's going to layer up with!

jacks11 · 15/08/2025 14:54

@Mondaytuesdayhappydays

I think YABU. And allowing your cousin to do something potentially dangerous.

I am a Doctor who uses GLP-1 and the combined GLP &GIP agents daily. You should not, under any circumstances, give prescribed medication such as these to someone else. It’s dangerous. They are so helpful in many ways for a number of conditions- not just diabetes and weight loss- but they do come with potentially serious side-effects and for each patient the risk vs benefit ratio is different. You are playing a potentially very serious game- your sister may well be absolutely fine or she might become very unwell. I know nothing of her medical history, but there are contra-indications to these medications where they absolutely should not be given. And situations where they are “use with caution” and requiring careful monitoring. Do either of you know what these are, or have the ability to monitor? I doubt that very much.

There is a reason that they are prescription only medications- safety! Do you not think the manufactures would be overjoyed if they could sell as much as they could to whoever would buy it? The only reason they don’t is because of the risks to their business- and if not prescribed appropriately they know more people would be harmed. And they could be sued.

Seriously, stop and think about it for a second. You pay a private provider, whose sole purpose is to make money from you by selling you a drug (I’m not knocking it- private medicine absolutely has a place, though I do wish some of the private companies who are prescribing weight loss medication would be more thorough than they are). And yet, these providers will not sell your sister the medication! Because she does not meet their safety criteria. I urge you to think again about that- a company which exists to sell weight loss medication to make a profit will not sell it to your sister- what does that tell you? Please, think about this with some logic.

As for you sister, it sounds like she may well have an eating disorder. She may not restrict or over-exercise enough to be underweight, nor does she binge and purge. But what you describe is disordered appetite and eating. In the absence of certain medical conditions, which I’m sure you’d have said existed, the symptoms you describe point towards a real problem. Which she needs help with, though I am more than aware if the limitations within the NHS in this field and she may need to go privately.

I would also strongly suspect that you (and possibly your sister) are rather naive if you think a “short break” from these symptoms will be enough. I don’t think that will work the way to both seem to think, I doubt it will be enough. Say it does work- is your sister really going to want to go back to a situation she describes as intolerable? Nope, she’ll want the medication but she still won’t qualify. Then what is the plan?

AliceMcK · 15/08/2025 17:15

Idontjetwashthefucker · 15/08/2025 09:35

Did you read any of OPs posts? The main reason is she isn't overweight!

Yes I did, the sister wants a break from fighting her cravings and to be able to enjoy herself for a while. As the op said even if she’s the same weight as her sister she will still be able to take the drug, her sister still can’t. i understand their situation and why they would want to try this.

BruFord · 15/08/2025 17:55

AliceMcK · 15/08/2025 17:15

Yes I did, the sister wants a break from fighting her cravings and to be able to enjoy herself for a while. As the op said even if she’s the same weight as her sister she will still be able to take the drug, her sister still can’t. i understand their situation and why they would want to try this.

@AliceMcK I suppose it’s a case of where to draw the line between addiction and wanting something, but being able to control the craving. One requires medical treatment, the other generally doesn’t (or if it does, less drastic treatment perhaps?)

An alcoholic and a recreational drinker both enjoy/want to drink alcohol, but only the alcoholic is an addict needing medical intervention. The recreational drinker may fancy a glass of wine every evening, but isn’t dependent on it and is able to limit themselves to drinking a moderate amount two nights a week.

It sounds as if the OP and her sister are like this, her sister doesn’t physically need WL jabs. Perhaps she does need to talk to someone about her relationship with food, but she isn’t addicted to it.

jacks11 · 15/08/2025 18:42

AliceMcK · 15/08/2025 17:15

Yes I did, the sister wants a break from fighting her cravings and to be able to enjoy herself for a while. As the op said even if she’s the same weight as her sister she will still be able to take the drug, her sister still can’t. i understand their situation and why they would want to try this.

You don’t know that- there may be reasons why, whatever her weight, the sister would not be prescribed this medication. It’s not a case- or should not be the case- that raised BMI is the only thing a prescriber takes into account when deciding whether glp-1 or combined glp/gip agents are safe and advisable to use. I’m not saying OP’s sister would not be safe, but none of us on here, nor OP, nor her sister actually know if she would have a contra-indication to use of this medication. Glibly stating she would get it, so it’s definitely fine to give her medication not prescribed for her is so wrong. It might be, or it might have very serious negative consequences.

There is also a reason why weight loss injections are not prescribed to patients of normal weight solely for the purposes of weight loss/appetite suppression. In this woman;s case, as a Dr who prescribes these medications (not for weight loss only) I would have serious concerns that this patient could actually have disordered eating, or possibly a (controlled, to some degree) eating disorder. We absolutely should not use glp-1 agents and there ilk in these situations- it’s dangerous. And feeds the disorder. Do you honestly think it’s at all certain after a “short break” she will be happy to stop. Or that it will not worsen the issues she already has. I’d be very concerned about that.

PlayfulWrangler · 16/08/2025 00:01

All the FOOD NOISE is because of disordered eating. It's a Catch22 - you're forever "denying" yourself the foods you are obsessed with and underfeeding yourself (usually by not eating enough protein & fat), which leaves you unsatisfied and still hungry. Highly restrictive diets only serve to feed the obsession with food and actually ramp up the NOISE like never before.

It's ALL PSYCHOLOGICAL. I don't care if you've suffered it from childhood - FOOD NOISE IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL BI-PRODUCT of your upbringing, schooling & your family's attitude to body image.

Get PSYCHIATRIC HELP people. No drug will silence the noise. What it will do is TURN THE VOLUME UP.

XenoBitch · 16/08/2025 00:06

My dad has been offered WLI by his GP, and he refused them. However, my DM wants him to have them so SHE can have them. She is a healthy weight but wants a push to lose more.
It is not good or healthy.
The jabs are being rolled out because the UK is basically mostly fat/obese people that are going to cause a strain on themselves and the NHS. Obesity comes with lots of health problems.

PlayfulWrangler · 16/08/2025 00:11

Blushingm · 15/08/2025 06:13

70 years ago there wasn’t the fast food and processed food we have now - some things were also still rationed!

people were also much more active too

So right. I just finished posting about this new term "FOOD NOISE". Great, another psychological ailment has been created for BIG PHARMA & GPs to overdiagnose and medicate the crap out of.

Young people need to wake up to all the hidden additives, sugars, fats and UPF's that are causing the current obesity epidemic. They've been brainwashed to believe medication is the answer.

Also, we don't know what the long term effects are using these drugs for weight loss. Extremely foolish and short-sighted.

JMSA · 16/08/2025 00:11

If she’s eligible, she’ll just have to do what the rest of us do and pay for it 🤷‍♀️

PlayfulWrangler · 16/08/2025 00:13

Come on sister - you knew the answer before you posted. I suspect you were seeking support for the idea, but failed miserably.

PlayfulWrangler · 16/08/2025 00:13

Come on sister - you knew the answer before you posted. I suspect you were seeking support for the idea, but failed miserably.