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paulhollywoodshairgel · 2025-08-14T17:59:39+00:00

I was in a museum today and my daughter (15) left me to go to the loo. She then waved me over.. she said to me.. I’d rather not use the gender neutral loo. I said that’s fine and sent her down a level to the ladies. A woman the approached me and preceded to tell me off for not encouraging my daughter to use the GN loo. How she has a trans child and how are they ever going to feel accepted with people like me around. I’m ND and I always second guess myself 10000 times a day. I wasn’t in the wrong was I?? I just said ok go and use the other separate loo. Surely my child can pee wherever she feels comfortable??!! I hate conflict so I just said ok and walked off!

SirBasil · 15/08/2025 13:05

disingenuous to say the outrage is new.

What is new is the TRAs making a LOT of noise about it and bringing it to everyone's attention.

It is quite true that prior to about 2010 transwomen used the women's toilets largely without any issue. As did the ubiquitious butch lesbian (TM) etc.

Men pretending to be women making a massive song and dance, threats, and filming themselves wanking in women's toilets is what the big change has been. The outrage followed that.

DrPrunesqualer · 15/08/2025 13:06

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 13:02

That's fine, no @DrPrunesqualer I wasn't aware there had been, how stupid I am.

I will have to remain with my original point then, that I don't want to be spoken for. I am perfectly happy to use them if they're there and I'm perfectly happy if other people don't want to use them. And that unisex toilets are not a new phenomenon, the outrage around them is.

Of course choice is everything ( within the law of course ) and we have that thankfully in this country
🙏

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:07

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 12:52

No one benefits from it. I just want to not be washed over and be spoken for repeatedly by people who say "no woman wants that", my owning of a vagina makes me very much a woman, and I couldn't care less. That's my only point.

"A lot (most) women wouldn't want to use mixed sex toilets if there were a single sex option available." - You have absolutely no evidence that this is the case, unless you have conducted an unbiased survey on the opinions of a huge sample of women. If you did a survey of everyone I know well - 100% of them would tell you they don't care. We've discussed it at length, multiple times when threads like this, or things in the news come up.

And finally, yes, being in a place with more people inherently increases your risk of coming into contact with someone nefarious - but that is true in literally every scenario, not just mixed sex loos - that was the point I was (probably badly) making about Tesco. I choose to judge every situation I'm in on it's own merits. A single sex loo at a railway station at night for example wouldn't make me feel safe purely by way of having a woman in a skirt on the door. Perhaps that is obtuse, but they are my opinions and the way I choose to live. If your risk analysis is done differently, that's fine, don't speak for me and I won't speak for you.

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"No one benefits from it."

Sexually predatory men benefit from it in actual fact. You are doing the work for these men, well done you! Big pat on the back!

And finally, yes, being in a place with more people inherently increases your risk of coming into contact with someone nefarious - but that is true in literally every scenario, not just mixed sex loos - that was the point I was (probably badly) making about Tesco.

So you agree you were talking out of your bum then, since you do understand that more people = increased risk.

So by your own measure, it follows that the increase in risk is present in mixed sex toilets too. So you agree, why the need to argue then?

DrPrunesqualer · 15/08/2025 13:08

SirBasil · 15/08/2025 13:05

disingenuous to say the outrage is new.

What is new is the TRAs making a LOT of noise about it and bringing it to everyone's attention.

It is quite true that prior to about 2010 transwomen used the women's toilets largely without any issue. As did the ubiquitious butch lesbian (TM) etc.

Men pretending to be women making a massive song and dance, threats, and filming themselves wanking in women's toilets is what the big change has been. The outrage followed that.

Agree. The system is being abused

We do also have an increase in stats on attacks
The longer the provision the longer stats have to materialise

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 13:12

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:07

"No one benefits from it."

Sexually predatory men benefit from it in actual fact. You are doing the work for these men, well done you! Big pat on the back!

And finally, yes, being in a place with more people inherently increases your risk of coming into contact with someone nefarious - but that is true in literally every scenario, not just mixed sex loos - that was the point I was (probably badly) making about Tesco.

So you agree you were talking out of your bum then, since you do understand that more people = increased risk.

So by your own measure, it follows that the increase in risk is present in mixed sex toilets too. So you agree, why the need to argue then?

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You're a peach aren't you. No, not talking out my bum at all. More people = more risk. That's not something revolutionary you've come up with. It's simple maths. My initial point was people were saying they were worried about cameras being installed in unisex spaces and that wouldn't be an issue in a single toilet if there was only one cubicle. When of course it could happen there.

Sexually predatory men are everywhere, the ones me and my family have been victims of weren't hiding in toilet cubicles. I'm not going to grind every part of my life to a halt because of men. If you don't feel comfortable, don't use them (I think I've now said this approximately 50 times). I would NEVER tell anyone else what they should and shouldn't feel comfortable with. What I expect in return is not to be spoken for and told all women are against them, when we aren't.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:13

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 13:02

That's fine, no @DrPrunesqualer I wasn't aware there had been, how stupid I am.

I will have to remain with my original point then, that I don't want to be spoken for. I am perfectly happy to use them if they're there and I'm perfectly happy if other people don't want to use them. And that unisex toilets are not a new phenomenon, the outrage around them is.

Feminists have been sounding the alarm over the gender ideology take over for about 20 years! It's not new!

Yes mixed sex spaces have been a thing for a very long time - changing village at the local pool etc - however there is a difference between having men/women/mixed which has been a thing for donkeys years, and having men/gender neutral/mixed.

Obviously there is direct sex discrimination if there are no female single sex spaces when there are options for everyone else (btw this has been a big thing, women's spaces are always the ones that get converted to mixed sex, never the mens... funny that isn't it?), and that's not even considering the bigger issue of the increase in risk to women and girls.

You can tell us this has never been a problem, has been happening without incident for x amount of time etc, but to say that would be a huge lie!

Aimtodobetter · 15/08/2025 13:14

I have no problem with gender neutral loos and use them when they are the most convenient choice. I am also reasonably supportive of most trans rights and don't think loos need to be safe female only space. However, if there were two choices i would probably choose the women's only loo as i find men seem to make the toilets messier on average. You're daughter made a perfectly acceptable choice that has nothing to do with the other lady and didn't impinge on her or her child - so it's not her business.

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 13:14

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:13

Feminists have been sounding the alarm over the gender ideology take over for about 20 years! It's not new!

Yes mixed sex spaces have been a thing for a very long time - changing village at the local pool etc - however there is a difference between having men/women/mixed which has been a thing for donkeys years, and having men/gender neutral/mixed.

Obviously there is direct sex discrimination if there are no female single sex spaces when there are options for everyone else (btw this has been a big thing, women's spaces are always the ones that get converted to mixed sex, never the mens... funny that isn't it?), and that's not even considering the bigger issue of the increase in risk to women and girls.

You can tell us this has never been a problem, has been happening without incident for x amount of time etc, but to say that would be a huge lie!

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That's fine, I have never been anywhere that offers men/gender neutral and no single space for women. So again I am no doubt the stupid one.

DrPrunesqualer · 15/08/2025 13:18

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:13

Feminists have been sounding the alarm over the gender ideology take over for about 20 years! It's not new!

Yes mixed sex spaces have been a thing for a very long time - changing village at the local pool etc - however there is a difference between having men/women/mixed which has been a thing for donkeys years, and having men/gender neutral/mixed.

Obviously there is direct sex discrimination if there are no female single sex spaces when there are options for everyone else (btw this has been a big thing, women's spaces are always the ones that get converted to mixed sex, never the mens... funny that isn't it?), and that's not even considering the bigger issue of the increase in risk to women and girls.

You can tell us this has never been a problem, has been happening without incident for x amount of time etc, but to say that would be a huge lie!

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Your third paragraph reminds me of the Barbicans mad idea at changing toilet signs and provision to

Toilets with urinals
Toilets without urinals ????!!!

So
No women’s single sex toilets then. How stupid can you get

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:23

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 13:12

You're a peach aren't you. No, not talking out my bum at all. More people = more risk. That's not something revolutionary you've come up with. It's simple maths. My initial point was people were saying they were worried about cameras being installed in unisex spaces and that wouldn't be an issue in a single toilet if there was only one cubicle. When of course it could happen there.

Sexually predatory men are everywhere, the ones me and my family have been victims of weren't hiding in toilet cubicles. I'm not going to grind every part of my life to a halt because of men. If you don't feel comfortable, don't use them (I think I've now said this approximately 50 times). I would NEVER tell anyone else what they should and shouldn't feel comfortable with. What I expect in return is not to be spoken for and told all women are against them, when we aren't.

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I am indeed a peach, thanks for noticing!

That's not something revolutionary you've come up with.

No duh! I didn't say I had come up with a revolutionary new thought, I was clearly saying that this is not brand new information.

Yes you are talking out of your bum if you understand that more people = increased risk. That's the crux of the discussion over cleanliness and safety in a mixed sex toilet. No one said it wasn't an issue in a single user cafe toilet, they said there was more risk of it happening in a large block of mixed sex toilets.

Sexually predatory men are everywhere

Yes they are sadly, but we know they are out there so we do what we can to keep women and girls as safe as we can. We mitigate risk where possible, this is one of the reasons we have single sex spaces. This is self evident to people with two brain cells to knock together.

You can use whichever spaces you want to, no one is telling you you are wrong there.

Where you absolutely, categorically are in the wrong, is in telling us to ignore ignore the increase in risk and to ignore the many sexual assaults that have happened in mixed sex toilets and changing rooms.

Again, here in this thread all you are doing is making it easier for predatory men to prey on women by attempting to convince women there is no problem with any of this.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:26

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 13:14

That's fine, I have never been anywhere that offers men/gender neutral and no single space for women. So again I am no doubt the stupid one.

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Y'know it's a funny thing about the world that, sometimes things happen even if you don't see them happening.

Totally wild concept I know!

Flatandhappy · 15/08/2025 13:27

I fucking hate GN loos only because they always stink. Basically most people with a penis don’t seem capable of getting their pee actually into the toilet. Share my toilet, keep it clean and you are welcome. It gives me the rage when people think that makes me some kind of intolerant wierdo.

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 13:27

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:23

I am indeed a peach, thanks for noticing!

That's not something revolutionary you've come up with.

No duh! I didn't say I had come up with a revolutionary new thought, I was clearly saying that this is not brand new information.

Yes you are talking out of your bum if you understand that more people = increased risk. That's the crux of the discussion over cleanliness and safety in a mixed sex toilet. No one said it wasn't an issue in a single user cafe toilet, they said there was more risk of it happening in a large block of mixed sex toilets.

Sexually predatory men are everywhere

Yes they are sadly, but we know they are out there so we do what we can to keep women and girls as safe as we can. We mitigate risk where possible, this is one of the reasons we have single sex spaces. This is self evident to people with two brain cells to knock together.

You can use whichever spaces you want to, no one is telling you you are wrong there.

Where you absolutely, categorically are in the wrong, is in telling us to ignore ignore the increase in risk and to ignore the many sexual assaults that have happened in mixed sex toilets and changing rooms.

Again, here in this thread all you are doing is making it easier for predatory men to prey on women by attempting to convince women there is no problem with any of this.

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Again, here in this thread all you are doing is making it easier for predatory men to prey on women by attempting to convince women there is no problem with any of this.

You can keep saying things I haven't said if it makes you feel better, to validate your own point. But it doesn't change the fact I haven't actually said that. For the 51st time now - the difference between you and I is that I am not trying to tell anyone else how to feel or where to go to the loo. I just want to be free to make my own choice without being spoken for by the likes of you and others who say "all women don't want this".

You're just nasty and very bitter for some reason, so I'm not inclined to listen to your way of thinking. I keep myself and my family safe in the best way I know how. A mixed sex toilet with individual cubicles in a museum, would cause me no concern. If it would you, fine.

Justwrong68 · 15/08/2025 13:29

EchoedSilence · 15/08/2025 10:40

I haven't missed a PP point that NO WOMEN want mixed sex toilets. She doesn't get to speak for me. I should have quoted her rant.

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You actively want mixed sex toilets? How far would you go with this crusade?

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 13:30

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:26

Y'know it's a funny thing about the world that, sometimes things happen even if you don't see them happening.

Totally wild concept I know!

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Another sarcastic, unnecessary comment.

Let me give it a try...someone with two brain cells to knock together would have read that and taken it for what it said - I haven't come across it so it's never given me cause for concern. Certainly isn't the case that it's ALWAYS the women's converted, or I'd have come across it.

You might have the time and inclination to research things that you've never encountered to be enraged about. But I don't.

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 13:31

Justwrong68 · 15/08/2025 13:29

You actively want mixed sex toilets? How far would you go with this crusade?

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No one has said that. I and @EchoedSilence (I think, sorry to speak for you!) are merely saying we don't care if they're mixed or not. Not that we want all toilets to be mixed or that everyone else shouldn't care.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:33

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 13:27

Again, here in this thread all you are doing is making it easier for predatory men to prey on women by attempting to convince women there is no problem with any of this.

You can keep saying things I haven't said if it makes you feel better, to validate your own point. But it doesn't change the fact I haven't actually said that. For the 51st time now - the difference between you and I is that I am not trying to tell anyone else how to feel or where to go to the loo. I just want to be free to make my own choice without being spoken for by the likes of you and others who say "all women don't want this".

You're just nasty and very bitter for some reason, so I'm not inclined to listen to your way of thinking. I keep myself and my family safe in the best way I know how. A mixed sex toilet with individual cubicles in a museum, would cause me no concern. If it would you, fine.

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I'm not trying to tell people what to think either, just pointing out that you are wrong and that you seem to have a vested interest in attempting to tell women there is no increase in risk in mixed sex spaces.

Fine you've made your point, some women are fine with mixed sex toilets and changing rooms, very good!🙄But you keep ignoring the fact that MOST women aren't fine with that, as @DrPrunesqualer said the government polls on this issue have been showing more and more that most women aren't happy with this and want single sex spaces.

If all you've had to say is "I'm ok with it", rest assured mission complete, we have heard and understood you, but that's not all you're saying. You are also saying there's no increased risk to women and girls in mixed sex spaces and you are very wrong there.

EchoedSilence · 15/08/2025 13:36

Justwrong68 · 15/08/2025 13:29

You actively want mixed sex toilets? How far would you go with this crusade?

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Are you going to accuse me of being a man next? That's the usual tactic.

ScreamingBeans · 15/08/2025 13:36

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 12:45

Some women might be fine with that but it doesn’t change the facts

It's the facts I'm struggling with, I just can't find any evidence that this is the case. It may well be and I just can't find it.

But appreciate the acknowledgement that some women might be fine with it. That's definitely better than being spoken for by PP's

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Here you go:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html

Unisex changing rooms put women at danger of sexual assault, data reveals

The vast majority of reported sexual assaults at public swimming pools in the UK take place in unisex changing rooms, new statistics reveal.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:40

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 13:30

Another sarcastic, unnecessary comment.

Let me give it a try...someone with two brain cells to knock together would have read that and taken it for what it said - I haven't come across it so it's never given me cause for concern. Certainly isn't the case that it's ALWAYS the women's converted, or I'd have come across it.

You might have the time and inclination to research things that you've never encountered to be enraged about. But I don't.

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You might have the time and inclination to research things that you've never encountered to be enraged about. But I don't.

"I'm alright jack!" Says OneCoralCat.

You don't know me and have no idea of what I have "encountered". And funnily enough I don't feel at all guilty about being angry over the erosion of women's and girl's rights and boundaries.

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 14:00

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 13:40

You might have the time and inclination to research things that you've never encountered to be enraged about. But I don't.

"I'm alright jack!" Says OneCoralCat.

You don't know me and have no idea of what I have "encountered". And funnily enough I don't feel at all guilty about being angry over the erosion of women's and girl's rights and boundaries.

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I'm not saying I'm alright Jack though am I. I'm saying I'm making my choice to do as I wish AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE FREE TO MAKE THEIRS WITHOUT MY INFLUENCE OR OPINION.

Literally all I want is the courtesy I'm extending to others to not speak for them, to be returned.

I do know what you've encountered in terms of gender neutral toilets, because you've told me (every single gender neutral toilet is a converted womens toilet meaning no single sex spaces for women). And that's literally all we're discussing.

AnSolas · 15/08/2025 14:01

Missanimosity · 14/08/2025 22:55

Oh my God, where the hell did you find a camera in a loo? And what do you mean they wee all over the floor??? They don't! You can say what you want to say, but when you use such silly unfounded arguments, it defeats your point.

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Fyi

Here you go simple search of "camera found in toilet UK"

Range of dates and locations

By "Professional" man at his work place
In a public office
• found
• reported
• proven in court
Https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-34401127

By male staff member
Museum staff toilets
https://www.thejournal.ie/arrest-belfast-camera-museum-toilet-679905-Nov2012/

By 15 year old boy
In a school
www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj49ywpw9x5o.amp

By Unknown
At work
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-flees-screwfix-stores-toilet-34933518.amp

By Unknown
Public Hospital
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/camera-found-hidden-in-northern-ireland-hospital-bathroom/37065060.html

By Unknown
Private rented home
www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/woman-finds-hidden-camera-inside-31844095.amp

By Unknown (camera and sound equipment)
Public womens toilet space in a University
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/we-feel-violated-students-horror-at-mic-and-camera-in-university-library-toilet/35912402.html

By customer
Coffee Shop
Convicted
https://news.sky.com/story/voyeur-who-hid-camera-in-starbucks-toilet-convicted-after-accidentally-filming-his-face-11158992

By dentist
Work
Removed from professional body
https://dentistry.co.uk/2022/12/23/dentist-caught-secretly-filming-people-in-the-toilet/

By worker ( Pen and phone )
At work
Convicted
https://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/news/north-yorkshire/news/court-results/2024/04-april/man-who-planted-hidden-camera-in-toilet-jailed/

By male Sex offender arrested
Pinwwood films
https://news.sky.com/story/pinewood-studios-hidden-camera-found-in-ladies-toilet-at-bond-25-filming-site-11746307

By Doctor
Pratice toilet
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/26/doctor-jailed-secretly-film-patients-toilet

David McConaghie at an earlier court appearance

David McConaghie: Ex-DUP adviser gets jail term for hiding camera in MP's office toilet

A former DUP adviser convicted of placing a hidden camera in the toilets of an MP's constituency office is given a four-month jail term but is set to appeal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-34401127

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 14:01

ScreamingBeans · 15/08/2025 13:36

Here you go:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html

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Someone already posted that, it's about changing rooms. I'm (rightly or wrongly) looking for something on gender neutral toilets specifically

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 14:06

AnSolas · 15/08/2025 14:01

Fyi

Here you go simple search of "camera found in toilet UK"

Range of dates and locations

By "Professional" man at his work place
In a public office
• found
• reported
• proven in court
Https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-34401127

By male staff member
Museum staff toilets
https://www.thejournal.ie/arrest-belfast-camera-museum-toilet-679905-Nov2012/

By 15 year old boy
In a school
www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj49ywpw9x5o.amp

By Unknown
At work
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-flees-screwfix-stores-toilet-34933518.amp

By Unknown
Public Hospital
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/camera-found-hidden-in-northern-ireland-hospital-bathroom/37065060.html

By Unknown
Private rented home
www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/woman-finds-hidden-camera-inside-31844095.amp

By Unknown (camera and sound equipment)
Public womens toilet space in a University
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/we-feel-violated-students-horror-at-mic-and-camera-in-university-library-toilet/35912402.html

By customer
Coffee Shop
Convicted
https://news.sky.com/story/voyeur-who-hid-camera-in-starbucks-toilet-convicted-after-accidentally-filming-his-face-11158992

By dentist
Work
Removed from professional body
https://dentistry.co.uk/2022/12/23/dentist-caught-secretly-filming-people-in-the-toilet/

By worker ( Pen and phone )
At work
Convicted
https://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/news/north-yorkshire/news/court-results/2024/04-april/man-who-planted-hidden-camera-in-toilet-jailed/

By male Sex offender arrested
Pinwwood films
https://news.sky.com/story/pinewood-studios-hidden-camera-found-in-ladies-toilet-at-bond-25-filming-site-11746307

By Doctor
Pratice toilet
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/nov/26/doctor-jailed-secretly-film-patients-toilet

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These are all great examples, including the one in the coffee shop which goes to show you're as much at risk in a single mixed sex cubicle as a row of them. I wonder who made that point earlier....

Interesting that all of these are either in single sex toilets or places where a mixed sex toilet wouldn't have caused any controversy (ie an office or Starbucks).

CohensDiamondTeeth · 15/08/2025 14:10

OneCoralCat · 15/08/2025 14:00

I'm not saying I'm alright Jack though am I. I'm saying I'm making my choice to do as I wish AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE FREE TO MAKE THEIRS WITHOUT MY INFLUENCE OR OPINION.

Literally all I want is the courtesy I'm extending to others to not speak for them, to be returned.

I do know what you've encountered in terms of gender neutral toilets, because you've told me (every single gender neutral toilet is a converted womens toilet meaning no single sex spaces for women). And that's literally all we're discussing.

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"You might have the time and inclination to research things that you've never encountered to be enraged about. But I don't."

Yes, yes you are 😂That is you saying I'm alright Jack 😂

Literally all I want is the courtesy I'm extending to others to not speak for them, to be returned.

And fine I think we have all agreed that you can pee wherever you deem fit, has anyone actually told you where to pee?

If anyone were to pull all your posts in this thread together it would be clear to them that even where not explicit, the subtext you are conveying (intentionally or not, although I personally think it's intentionally) is "Nothing to see here, there is no increased risk to women & girls, ignore all you know about sexual violence and how men are the perpetrators of the majority of those crimes, ignore the fact that voyeurism is a crime which is increasing with the advent of new technologies"

You you kind of are attempting to speak for all women when you deny that this is an issue, or deny that there is clear evidence to support saying there is an increased risk to women in girls in mixed sex changing rooms and toilets, or when you try to deny that the polls show that most women prefer single sex spaces.

Oh you edited while I was replying.

I do know what you've encountered in terms of gender neutral toilets, because you've told me (every single gender neutral toilet is a converted womens toilet meaning no single sex spaces for women). And that's literally all we're discussing.

Um no you don't know what I've encountered you clown. What I said was that where there have historically been 2 single sex spaces, the men's and women's, which have been changed because of gender wang it seems to always be the women's single sex spaces that get changed to mixed sex, I have yet to hear of a previously men's single sex changing room or toilet being changed to mixed sex where the women's single sex space has been left unchanged. I mean it could have happened (what with that rule of the world thing, things still happen even if you don't see them), but I keep an ear out on these issues and I've not heard of this happening yet. If presented evidence that it has happened, I would concede that it has happened no problem, but it would be an outlier in comparison to the many instances of female single sex spaces being changed to mixed sex spaces while men's single sex spaces stay the same.

There are numerous examples of this happening, the most prominent I can think of off the top of my head would be the Hampstead swimming ponds. There used to be three ponds, men's only, women's only, and mixed sex. Now there is the men's pond, the mixed sex pond and the women's pond is now also mixed sex. So men get three ponds to swim in and women don't have any that are single sex any more.