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MIL is too much

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OneBrightCrow · 13/08/2025 10:06

I find my MIL quite overbearing, and where I want to see her expectations and enthusiasm to spend time with us as misguided love, the way she behaves does not make it easy, and instead I feel frustrated at her childishness or entitlement. Looking for some advice here on how to handle things in the moment so that I don’t come across as rude…

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There have been countless occasions in my 8 years as a parent, where she has gone ahead and done what SHE has wanted despite knowing that it spoilt our own plans as parents... for example when she bought our daughter a Fisher Price rocking horse for her first Christmas as it was on a good deal, despite knowing and having SEEN that we had already bought one for our daughter’s first birthday (that was after Christmas, so her gift would get given first).

She can also be incredibly rude at times – for example at a recent family party that my parents put on for our 40ths, we did birthday cake/candles etc and when everyone was watching she repeatedly shouted across to me “why are you pulling that silly face? You look like a hamster”

To my knowledge I wasn’t pulling a strange face at all, but she seemed to relish the opportunity to try and humiliate me when she had everyone’s attention.
Anyway, that’s not what this is about, but I want to give some context about why I feel how I do.

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A few months back, MIL announced that she wanted to do a cruise with us all (her 2 adult children, partners, grandkids). They would be paying – which is extremely generous – but I reminded my husband that as it is the year of our 40ths, we had our own plans that would need to be considered (in terms of dates and the amount of leave we could take from work). This was a fleeting conversation one Sunday lunchtime…. But 48hrs later we are told that the trip is booked. No further discussion.
Thankfully, dates etc worked out, so we just went with it. Given their generosity, it felt inappropriate to dig our heels in about not having any further conversations about it.
The cruise is fast approaching, and it’s evident that we will be expected to spend every waking minute together. Obviously we’re going as a family, so a decent amount of time together is expected, but when I talk to my husband about potential things we can enjoy on the ship, he reminds me that it may be awkward if his parents and sister’s family don’t want to do those things as “we are on a family trip”.

We will have a row of 3 rooms with MIL in the middle and she's already told my husband she'd like to open up the balconies so we have access to all rooms (WHY???)

My MIL has also started revealing outfits (only to my husband) that she has bought for my DD (nothing for my son, lol) so that she can match her other granddaughter when we dress up in the evening. She hasn’t given them to me to pack, but will pack them in her own suitcase and present them on the evening with the expectation they are put on. We have outfits already planned for the evenings, so I can see this being an awkward moment…

In situations like that, my MIL is likely to stick her bottom lip out and talk in a baby voice about how she’s brought it so the girls can match, and basically behave like a spoilt child so that everyone feels sorry for her, and I look like I’m just being difficult. Especially when my SIL will dutifully comply with whatever MIL wants.

I find those times quite difficult to manage – wanting to assert myself, but not create an atmosphere. But my tolerance can be very low, and I imagine will be even more so if we’re spending such an intense period of time together.

Help! AIBU to find this all too much??

OP posts:
Thelostjewels · 14/08/2025 05:18

Imisscoffee2021 · 13/08/2025 17:24

It's like the ship is her giant dolls house and you're all complying dolls for her to play with and control, I loathe this false gift giving when people hold the reciever to ransom because they've paid for soemthing noone asked for but themselves. I have an aunt like this, nothing is given without expectation.

This is a great analogy

BlueFlowers5 · 14/08/2025 07:48

On the other hand OP, buying matching dresses is harmless and we all have quirks in family life.
Maybe the adults can agree to differ whilst the children enjoy themselves and make memories.

OneBrightCrow · 14/08/2025 09:26

BlueFlowers5 · 14/08/2025 07:48

On the other hand OP, buying matching dresses is harmless and we all have quirks in family life.
Maybe the adults can agree to differ whilst the children enjoy themselves and make memories.

The outfits thing alone isn't a massive issue although I would prefer the outfits be gifted so we can pack them rather than MIL keeping hold of them to spring upon us in the hope that we won't be able to say no.

its the cumulative impact of so many things that becomes too much

OP posts:
godmum56 · 14/08/2025 09:54

BlueFlowers5 · 14/08/2025 07:48

On the other hand OP, buying matching dresses is harmless and we all have quirks in family life.
Maybe the adults can agree to differ whilst the children enjoy themselves and make memories.

see I don't think its harmless....its children as dollies and the showing to her son but springing it on his wife is unpleasant controlling and manipulative behaviour. I agree that on the child abuse scale or on the aggression to family scale, its not the worst, nut harmless? No.

godmum56 · 14/08/2025 09:55

OneBrightCrow · 14/08/2025 09:26

The outfits thing alone isn't a massive issue although I would prefer the outfits be gifted so we can pack them rather than MIL keeping hold of them to spring upon us in the hope that we won't be able to say no.

its the cumulative impact of so many things that becomes too much

"in the hope that we won't be able to say no."

well she got that one wrong didn't she?

Inertia · 14/08/2025 10:47

GiBlues · 13/08/2025 14:37

I think some PP are spot on, pick your battles.
time away from them all is going to be much more important than her wearing matching outfits to your daughter. So that would be what I would put my foot down about instead.

I would however have some comments ready about the outfits to embarrass her like,
“it’s odd, I’ve never seen matching granny and granddaughter outfits anywhere. Then again I don’t suppose there’s many pensioners that want to dress like a toddler and vice versa.” And finish with a patronising tinkly laugh.

Play her at her own game for the holiday.

I think you should take this a step further and actually buy matching grandma/ granddaughter outfits, according to whatever your daughter is into. Tell MIL how delighted DD is that she is keen on paired outfits, and how you all can’t wait to see them both in matching dinosaur t-shirts / Lionesses football strips/ unicorn pyjamas.

mummyimbusting · 14/08/2025 10:52

you need to sneak off to the bar on your own and find a confidant - a barman/woman would be ideal as you’ll always know where to find them whenever you need to go an bitch offload to a non-family member.

user1492809438 · 14/08/2025 11:17

I agree it is unhealthy and manipulative for a grown woman to play 'dressing dolly' and she is trying to deny your daughter the choice to dress like her cousin or not by springing it on her. Make sure your husband backs his daughters choice.

godmum56 · 14/08/2025 11:39

user1492809438 · 14/08/2025 11:17

I agree it is unhealthy and manipulative for a grown woman to play 'dressing dolly' and she is trying to deny your daughter the choice to dress like her cousin or not by springing it on her. Make sure your husband backs his daughters choice.

this....and watch out for the use of bribery and manipulation "oh your cousin loves me/I love your cousin more"

LimoncelloSpritzplease · 14/08/2025 11:45

Inertia · 14/08/2025 10:47

I think you should take this a step further and actually buy matching grandma/ granddaughter outfits, according to whatever your daughter is into. Tell MIL how delighted DD is that she is keen on paired outfits, and how you all can’t wait to see them both in matching dinosaur t-shirts / Lionesses football strips/ unicorn pyjamas.

Say yes thats a great idea about the matching outfits. You pick one night MIL and then only fair that each of your GC get to choose what you will wear all wear one night too. They will love that and so will you. Just think you could be dressed as snow white, Taylor Swift, Moana, Princess Ailsa, a Dinosaur or a Cowboy how good will that be when you all turn up together and everyone will know that you are the grandma and they are all your GC brilliant.

Spanglemum02 · 14/08/2025 11:48

OneBrightCrow · 13/08/2025 12:24

Will be bringing gym stuff... but may go and sit in the bar 🤣🤣 imagine them finding me in my Lycra knocking back some shots 🤣

our kids were keen to try the kids clubs but unfortunately SIL kids are not, and DH says it will be awkward if we're sat with the other kids and ours aren't there, therefore they shouldn't go at all. They were disappointed hearing that they may not get to try it out. The only time it would be appropriate is if we were going off for a meal just the 2 of us.... so hopefully we can do that! But I reckon once out of the week will be the limit

Your kids should be allowed to try out the kids club if they want. Do they get on with their cousins? You can't all be together 24 hours a day. Dont be confrontational about it but just suggest things your kids would like to do and see if anyone else wants to go. If not go and do them. Spend some time together but not all day every day.

PhuckTrump · 14/08/2025 12:03

OneBrightCrow · 14/08/2025 09:26

The outfits thing alone isn't a massive issue although I would prefer the outfits be gifted so we can pack them rather than MIL keeping hold of them to spring upon us in the hope that we won't be able to say no.

its the cumulative impact of so many things that becomes too much

It’s about control, plain and simple. MIL had control when she was the mum with young children, and now that the children are grown with families, she needs to create opportunities to control, ie, the kids’ dresses.

Marmaladelover · 14/08/2025 12:06

OneBrightCrow · 14/08/2025 09:26

The outfits thing alone isn't a massive issue although I would prefer the outfits be gifted so we can pack them rather than MIL keeping hold of them to spring upon us in the hope that we won't be able to say no.

its the cumulative impact of so many things that becomes too much

I agree it’s the big reveal of them which stinks! Especially if there is nothing for your son ( even if he doesn’t want anything! ) And makes it more difficult for your DD to say no in that moment she will feel emotionally pressurised.

Campingisnexttogodliness · 14/08/2025 13:06

Maybe the outfits won't fit. Mil never bought the correct sizes.. Then proudly announced they were in the sales.. No use if they don't bloody fit! She just didn't grasp it!!
Her money to waste.

Swiftie1878 · 14/08/2025 13:14

OneBrightCrow · 13/08/2025 10:38

I'll def give her the choice as that kinda takes the spotlight off me!

Just be careful though, as if MIL behaves badly when your DD doesn’t choose the outfit she picked for her, you don’t want to have that burden of dealing with it shifted onto a child.

heroinechic · 14/08/2025 13:44

A lot of this is irritating but ignorable, except the shared balcony. Absolutely fucking not. Hard no. You are stuck at sea with these people, you need to have at least one place that you can go which is entirely private.

user1492809438 · 14/08/2025 13:55

'our kids were keen to try the kids clubs but unfortunately SIL kids are not, and DH says it will be awkward if we're sat with the other kids and ours aren't there, therefore they shouldn't go at all'
Not awkward at all for you, you'll be childfree [pass the bottle!] Seriously does he expect your children to be there just to entertain the other children? Is it not their holiday? You really do have a DH problem, time for big girl pants. And do ask why she hasn't bought your son an outfit.

TwinklySquid · 14/08/2025 14:17

OneBrightCrow · 14/08/2025 09:26

The outfits thing alone isn't a massive issue although I would prefer the outfits be gifted so we can pack them rather than MIL keeping hold of them to spring upon us in the hope that we won't be able to say no.

its the cumulative impact of so many things that becomes too much

Ask to see them so you which shoes to pack to match.

justasking111 · 14/08/2025 14:19

user1492809438 · 14/08/2025 13:55

'our kids were keen to try the kids clubs but unfortunately SIL kids are not, and DH says it will be awkward if we're sat with the other kids and ours aren't there, therefore they shouldn't go at all'
Not awkward at all for you, you'll be childfree [pass the bottle!] Seriously does he expect your children to be there just to entertain the other children? Is it not their holiday? You really do have a DH problem, time for big girl pants. And do ask why she hasn't bought your son an outfit.

My DH would get keel hauled for expecting his kids to entertain their cousins. They're all on a freebie after all.

Nantescalling · 14/08/2025 15:15

OneBrightCrow · 13/08/2025 10:53

I think I'm definitely becoming more this way.

frustratingly it's a trip that we had booked (as a family of 4) for 2021, but with Covid it got cancelled and they couldn't honour the booking price so we couldn't afford it when cruises started up again.

so it's a trip we really wanted to do... but on our own terms.

maybe it won't be so bad. DH is adamant that on our days off the ship we'll get time alone as we like to be active but his parents mobility isn't great... but I'll believe it when i see it.

Suddenly noticed te mention of parentS. Does that mean there is a FIL involved. If so, that's the ally you need - and WOW do you need one. The theory of divide to conquer seems very apt in your circumstances. This woman is a menace - far worse than the dreadful MILs people mention. I would find out the price of a one way ticket home from any of the places you'll be visiting.

Hopingtobeaparent · 14/08/2025 17:15

MyLittleNest · 13/08/2025 16:39

"our kids were keen to try the kids clubs but unfortunately SIL kids are not, and DH says it will be awkward if we're sat with the other kids and ours aren't there, therefore they shouldn't go at all. They were disappointed hearing that they may not get to try it out. The only time it would be appropriate is if we were going off for a meal just the 2 of us.... so hopefully we can do that! But I reckon once out of the week will be the limit"

Your husband should be ashamed of himself. He has his own family now and his priority should be to his children. But he would rather disappoint his children than his mother or sister.

If he's not going to do what is in the best interest of his children, they you need to step up and speak up and do it. I'd rather keep them home than dangle fun within reach and let them know they have to miss out.

OP, I do feel you need to fight for your kids having some fun of their choosing. It’s up to the other kids if they don’t want to join in, they can entertain themselves for a couple of afternoons, it won’t hurt. I’m sure there’ll be some adult entertainment some people want to do that won’t be kid suitable. It’s ok to separate off for a few hours here and there, then you also have something to talk about when you come back together.

Good luck though, you’ll need the gin by the sounds of it!!

pineapplesundae · 14/08/2025 17:53

It’s a cruise not the rest of your life, just roll with it. You can get along and enjoy yourself, or you can find fault with everything and be miserable. You choose.

2chocolateoranges · 14/08/2025 18:28

The outfits would tip me over the edge, children's clothing doesn't need to match anyone else!

She's trying to control wvery aspect of her gifted holiday. She is paying so she is dictating what's happening.

Mum23plusC · 14/08/2025 19:10

What a nightmare!! Its the dress thing I can't get past, how old is your daughter? Hopefully she gets a choice over what she chooses to wear (and not back down from Grandma if she goes with the sulky lip) . I mean, who acts like a child in that situation for God's sake!! Good luck, and try to refrain from pushing her overboard x

Antralucinda · 14/08/2025 19:29

I’d say how much you’re looking fwd to the holiday & how incredibly generous it is. Then I’d say you’ve been looking at facilities and are so excited for you and your DH & kids to go off on your own to try spa/ x restaurant/day trip etc on your own and quickly follow with ‘obviously we’re going as a larger family but of course it’ll be important for us to all also have space and individual time or that’d be a bit strange!’

id also mention you’ve already been thinking of packing but of course DD is of an age now where she likes to choose her own outfits - as she’s not a baby

basically make the MIL sound batshit before she does those things - if there’s a family WhatsApp you can put that’s even better. You never know you might get some backing from other family.