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Am I being dramatic or was this a bit aggressive

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ThatKeenJadeLeader · 05/08/2025 11:20

I have been having therapy for 6 months. Not missed a session or a payment.

I live in an area where I depend on WiFi as mobile data is awful. Went to log into my session and my Teams wouldn’t load.

Tried rebooting etc, eventually got back online after 7 minutes but the teams wouldn’t load. Don’t have the therapists number so went to send an email apologising and saying I was trying to get on and couldn’t.

Was met by an email stating she had waited on call for 5 minutes, this slot could have been used by another person in need and I’m to make full payment for the session within 5 days or she’ll pass to a debt collection agency and all future planned sessions are now cancelled.

This happened within literally 10 minutes of me trying to get online.

I replied saying I had had some slight trouble getting onto the call and just made the payment.

She then replied saying it’s fine! Did I want her to call me to use the last 30 minutes of the session. I did not.

Am I being dramatic or is this really aggressive over ten minutes. I’ve always paid and I’ve been speaking to her for 6 months.

Im really put off now and don’t want to speak to her anymore. I fully understand she has a business to run but as a client who’s been with her that long it’s a bit OTT?

OP posts:
Crudd99 · 05/08/2025 12:05

HoneyHoneyHowYouThrillMe · 05/08/2025 11:22

I absolutely would not continue, under any circumstances. That's shockingly aggressive and would completely put me off.

I don't think most therapists are worth the paper they wipe their bum with, tbh, but that's by the by.

Agree.

Daygloboo · 05/08/2025 12:06

ThatKeenJadeLeader · 05/08/2025 11:20

I have been having therapy for 6 months. Not missed a session or a payment.

I live in an area where I depend on WiFi as mobile data is awful. Went to log into my session and my Teams wouldn’t load.

Tried rebooting etc, eventually got back online after 7 minutes but the teams wouldn’t load. Don’t have the therapists number so went to send an email apologising and saying I was trying to get on and couldn’t.

Was met by an email stating she had waited on call for 5 minutes, this slot could have been used by another person in need and I’m to make full payment for the session within 5 days or she’ll pass to a debt collection agency and all future planned sessions are now cancelled.

This happened within literally 10 minutes of me trying to get online.

I replied saying I had had some slight trouble getting onto the call and just made the payment.

She then replied saying it’s fine! Did I want her to call me to use the last 30 minutes of the session. I did not.

Am I being dramatic or is this really aggressive over ten minutes. I’ve always paid and I’ve been speaking to her for 6 months.

Im really put off now and don’t want to speak to her anymore. I fully understand she has a business to run but as a client who’s been with her that long it’s a bit OTT?

Sounds utterly bonkers. I think half the people who set themselves up as

' therapists' need help themselves. It's a case of ' physician heal thyself'. Seriously. The therapy industry in this country is well out of control . Every Tom, Dick and Harry is getting in on the act. I could tell you a hundred bloody stories ive heard from people about unskilled, shitty therapists. A great therapist is a great thing. But, god, there are some dreadful ones out there. The whole bloody industry need overhauling. Some of these people do great damage.

BoringParkingThread · 05/08/2025 12:06

That's really not normal at all. The one big rule in therapy is that trust, and giving the client a sense of safety is massively important. If she doesn't understand that that email undermined all of the work that she was doing with you, then she is probably not a good therapist. I would definitely go elsewhere.

Daygloboo · 05/08/2025 12:07

weirdoboelady · 05/08/2025 11:25

FFS you paid her for the hour, so she should have been online for the hour (50 minutes, presumably) waiting for you to join, not writing aggressive emails. Teams and Zoom are known for being difficult to connect to, sometimes. I wouldn't continue either, and I would report her to whichever counselling body she is presumably registered with.

Yes report her. These types shouldn't be working.

DiscoBob · 05/08/2025 12:10

She threatened you with debt collectors because she waited for five minutes?!

This woman is supposed to be employed in supporting the mentally vulnerable?! Fuck me.

She needs to get a new profession. Maybe she should become a debt collector seeing as she's so fond of them.

I'd consider complaining about her to whichever governing body she belongs to, or the company she's employed by. Absolutely shocking behaviour.

Daygloboo · 05/08/2025 12:12

TheAmusedQuail · 05/08/2025 11:47

Just to say, the client I have that is the worst non-attender, is currently at about day 45 without paying the invoice I've sent them.

I have to threaten to cancel our work before they pay at times. I know it isn't because they won't pay, they are just very busy, but it is very rude.

This type of client is in the minority. But who knows which clients will be that client? Better to have an overall policy and line in place so everyone is aware.

Debt collection? Grow up.

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 12:16

Coffeeishot · 05/08/2025 11:41

You don't think "if you don't pay within 5 daya thenim passing your debt on" is aggressive ?

No...

I'm guessing she's had lots of issues with none payment so is clearly laying out her terms

NightsweatNinja · 05/08/2025 12:17

I work with clients online and have just had a no-show. I sent a quick ‘calling it, hope all’s well’ email and spent the time catching up on emails. My client had a very good reason for not showing up and I’d feel terrible if I’d sent them such a threatening message.

Also, your therapist should have checked you had a second way of contacting them, that’s on her.

I hope this hasn’t put you off forever and you find a more sensitive therapist in future.

BillStickersWillBeProsocuted · 05/08/2025 12:22

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 12:16

No...

I'm guessing she's had lots of issues with none payment so is clearly laying out her terms

What more aggressive option did she have then a debt collection agency? And she went right to that on an payment that wasn't even late yet!

Daygloboo · 05/08/2025 12:28

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 12:16

No...

I'm guessing she's had lots of issues with none payment so is clearly laying out her terms

That's not the clients fault.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 05/08/2025 12:31

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 11:27

What are the T&Cs of the session?

Her email sounds like a standard email she sends out if her client doesn't log in within 5 minutes which I assume is laid out in the conditions of booking? Ie "if you are more than 5 minutes late without informing us then your booking will be cancelled at full cost and all further bookings will be cancelled as this service is in high demand"

In what world is this a reasonable T&C?

SunnyPrague · 05/08/2025 12:37

Dreadful. She sounds AWFUL. Bin her!

Coffeeishot · 05/08/2025 12:38

UsingAMansNameInAWomensWorld · 05/08/2025 12:16

No...

I'm guessing she's had lots of issues with none payment so is clearly laying out her terms

Well i think the op is quite clear on the terms now, I would have thought a professional therapist would have handled a situation like this a bit more leniently.

Agapornis · 05/08/2025 12:39

Spirallingdownwards · 05/08/2025 11:42

I suspect she just logs it and it sends out a standard automatic message. You could have and should have used t he rest of your time when offered.

I think it's an automatic message too. I'd forward it to her - make sure she knows what you received, and that her two very different messages are conflicting and worrying. Hopefully she'll apologise.

Thanksman · 05/08/2025 12:42

I hope you got something out of the sessions you had OP. This is disgraceful treatment.

FullOfMomsense · 05/08/2025 12:51

Check your contract- if she has a missed appointment clause it'll state whether you have to pay, or if there's a way to move the appointment to another time.

Pay if you have to, and have nothing else to do with her. Completely unethical to be so aggressive and threatening to your therapy client over the sake of less than 10 mins! I'd leave a review online too, that's completely inappropriate and off-putting and potential clients should be aware.

Grammarnut · 05/08/2025 12:58

Possibly this was an automatic message? It sounds as if she did not realise what had happened.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 05/08/2025 13:13

Butchyrestingface · 05/08/2025 11:31

I have been self-employed for 20 years in a completely different field and use audio-visual conferencing platforms a lot. That is WAY too aggressive for a reliable, punctual customer who pays on time and never misses a session. Everyone knows that that Teams and Zoom are not 100% reliable and from what you've said, she had no reason to think you'd simply gone waltzing Matilda. What if someone in your family had died, FFS?

I completely get how frustrating it is to have non/late paying flaky customers. But that doesn't apply in your case. In your position, I would feel the trust in the relationship had gone and be unable to continue with her as a therapist.

I agree.
And I think you should tell her exactly why.

pigsDOfly · 05/08/2025 13:28

Spirallingdownwards · 05/08/2025 11:42

I suspect she just logs it and it sends out a standard automatic message. You could have and should have used t he rest of your time when offered.

Therapy can only work if the person receiving the therapy feels comfortable with the therapist and trust them.

Would you really want to pour your feelings out to someone who has just threatened you with dept collectors, with all the ramifications that could have, after you couldn't get the, notoriously, unreliable technology to connect you thereby making you late by 5 minutes?

They have been talking for 6 months, if this sort of message is standard, maybe the therapist should think about using a non standard message.

I sincerely hope this particular 'therapist' never counsels anyone suffering with severe depression, someone who can't get out of bed to talk to anyone on one of their therapy days.

InBedBy10 · 05/08/2025 13:29

I think your should email her telling her the response you got was very aggressive and has shattered all trust and tou wont be dealing with her anymore.

I would also leave a review if possible so other vulnerable people know what they are getting into.

BakingMuffins · 05/08/2025 13:30

I would sent her an exactly as aggressive email cancelling any further sessions and telling her exactly why.

pigsDOfly · 05/08/2025 13:31

InBedBy10 · 05/08/2025 13:29

I think your should email her telling her the response you got was very aggressive and has shattered all trust and tou wont be dealing with her anymore.

I would also leave a review if possible so other vulnerable people know what they are getting into.

Yes, this is a good idea.

Silverbirchleaf · 05/08/2025 13:31

The Debt collection but is definitely aggressive! That’s something you send after several days, not minutes.

Livpool · 05/08/2025 13:34

That’s an awful message! Does she moonlight as a payday loan lender?!

VeryStressedMum · 05/08/2025 13:35

That's terrible I would not continue with her at all after that.
You've paid for the hour she should have been sitting there available for the full hour, if someone's late they will still have to pay the full hour but only get half hour or whatever. If it's a total no show then she can send payment reminder but use of words matters especially between therapist and client.
If they just don't pay ever then you can refer to debt collection.