To be so fed up amd disheartened with all the xenophobia

[Nohqters]

Honestly, I’m just feeling worn out and heartbroken lately. It seems like racism and xenophobia are becoming more and more mainstream again, wrapped up in the same tired scare stories, whether it’s splashed across a tabloid or coming straight out of Farage’s mouth. Then you see stupid threads on here about civil war trying to stir up more hate.

Even my own brother has started sounding like Tommy Robinson. Ten years ago, that would’ve been unthinkable. It’s like people have completely forgotten the lies we were sold during Brexit—by Farage, Tice and their crowd—and yet they’re still lapping up everything they say. No critical thought, just blind anger pointed in the wrong direction.
I’m so fed up with the endless nonsense about small boats, “white minorities,” and all the rest of it. It’s all designed to divide us, stoke hate, and distract from the real culprits—rubbish politicians, broken policies, and the ultra-wealthy hoarding resources while the rest of us struggle.

But instead of looking upwards, it’s always “blame Johnny Foreigner.” It’s exhausting, and frankly terrifying how quickly people fall for it.

Is anyone else feeling this? How are you managing conversations when even close family seem to be buying into this stuff? I’m trying to stay compassionate, but it’s getting harder to bite my tongue.

They are quoting that because it’s what Farage spouts and these people are too stupid to do their own research! Farage can’t even separate legal migration from illegal migration!

It’s about comparisons per population. You don’t know what you’re talking about OP. You clearly don’t know the numbers and you haven’t thought about these issues very deeply. You’re just reflexively judgemental

It's more like, your opinion is stupid and they're saying so. Still allowed, I believe.

Who'd care for the elderly and people in hospital then? Brits won't do it in sufficient numbers on the crap wages and conditions given. We use and abuse migrant labour plenty.

@Horserider5678 you only have to look at the comments section to see bitter twisted comments with no thought or logic.

Yeah, I’m just eager to see what the sources are. I’m beyond shocked that the MSM is able to print absolute bullshit to be honest. I know they often misrepresent facts to mislead people but to outright lie about their sources is completely unacceptable. I presumed they would be held to higher standards than that.

I do find it quite hilarious though that when the news says something that confirms what they already believe, it’s gospel. If they say something they don’t like, it’s bullshit and ‘they’ are hiding something 😂😂 very selective confirmation bias!

How can you compare holidays to the racism that is on the rise in the UK! Perhaps do a bit of research and find out that illegal immigrants only make up 1.8% of the population of the UK! The biggest drain on resources are those claiming benefits and have never worked in their lives, perhaps we should target them! Farage cannot separate illegal migration from legal migration (around 13% of the population who pay NI and taxes in the UK) and wants a huge reduction in both! You do realise the NHS is reliant on internationally educated doctors and nurses, so enjoy life under Farage the white supremest should he come to power! I suggest watching his interview with Laura Kunsburg and if you’re educated you’ll see how totally out of his depth he is!

I do not see any increase in xenophobia or racism - quite the opposite, in fact.

Interesting that you exhibit your own prejudices with the following sentence, however:

‘the real culprits—rubbish politicians, broken policies, and the ultra-wealthy hoarding resources while the rest of us struggle.‘

Perhaps, take a look in the mirror at yourself, first.

I think this is a really interesting and very rarely made point, Brits can’t leave. Not sure it would be material to the numbers though.

Brexit was never going to stop the boats. These tens of thousands of mainly men are not from Europe so its a pointless argument. . In fact we don't know where they are from, who they are, we know nothing of their past or what their intentions are and the country cannot afford them. Why is that so hard for people to grasp?

Labour are currently blaming the disabled (affects women predominantly, either as a representation of the disabled or as the majority carers of the disabled).
They’re also trying to find a way to ignore the supreme court’s ruling that biological sex matters, again affecting women, children and, if they get their way, making our rights obsolete.
They tried to continue the disgusting cover up of the rape gangs, yet again affecting women and girls.

I blame the government and their predecessors 100% for the mess we’re in.
I blame them 100% for the people out of work crisis, the children not in school crisis, the behaviour of children in school, the hundreds of thousands of girls affected by Pakistani Muslim gangs across the country, and the current situation where men from woman-hating cultures are enabled to have access to women and girls is entirely of the government’s making. I don’t know how much louder they need to shout that they hate the female population of this country, but the message is getting through clearly.

Meanwhile we hear nothing of the many immigrants who just slot in and live their lives. But when we take issue with women murderers and rapists it’s deflected every time with - oh you hate brown people, or - you racist bigot, you’re blaming immigrants for everything that’s wrong, or - you know white men rape too? (So fucking what? Men are men, if only we could deport every single rapist, paedophile and DV perpetrators the country would be far better, but we can’t, but we can take a stance against those men that can and should be deported at the first sign of trouble - “this behaviour is unacceptable here, do xyz and you’ll be out within three days” Starmer could do it for white British rioters, speed the process, why not immigrant rapists? Ohhh, no, we’d look like the xenophobia and racists we love to condemn, we need to leave them alone. It’s bullshit, utter steaming bullshit. The left has become a joke.

Many people who realise all of this want to vote for something different, Farage has jumped into the hole created and people are so desperate that they believe him - because what real alternative is there that is taking these fears seriously?

I don’t want to vote reform. I’ve spoiled my vote for years now because Uk politics no longer represents any of my values. They’re all a bunch of corrupt liars. So sick of this.

Except we do, as they get all their biometric data gathered and photographs taken which are all then cross checked against global databases. Obviously, some will slip through the net, and we would have been able to work more collaboratively with the EU had we not left to make it even safer, but alas we did leave, that’s life. People don’t just turn up and rock up at hotels like certain people would have you believe.

spot on!

Farage is a lying idiot.
his manifesto for Reform is like a manifesto a niaeve child would write.
Where is he growing his magic money tree to fund improvements in everything and lower taxes for all?

There's a soon to be hard left party, that will balance that out. It's going to be 🍿 time, seeing the implosion in the Labour Party. Starmer's real test is yet to come. Just when he thought he had battoned down the hatches, along comes Corbyn, to pile on the pressure. "Your Party" - plenty of appeal to bullies, who love to try to intimidate others into complying with their own views. Good job the freedom of speech spectrum is big enough to handle alternative views - now the left should try making room, on that spectrum. Budge up.

Well, for a start, I doubt he will have the kind of back bench that Labour have - who will block any reform to the welfare budget, or the NHS.

Ps. Applying your logic, Starmer and Reeves are liars too.

I’m heartbroken by the stage of our country OP.

I totally agree.
wealth is being accumulated by the richest 1% in the world at a massive level. They have access to something like 45% of global wealth. And more importantly are accessing any new wealth that is created at a much greater speed than the general population.

Instead of the general population demanding a better distribution system of wealth - we are just turning on other poor people. This is happening globally. A lot of this wealth is held by Zuckerberg, Musk, Murdoch - who own the way we receive our information/ news. They are ensuring that the blame for such inequality and unfairness isn’t all aimed at the rich. Instead they’re looking for scapegoats to feed to us.

Sadly, I genuinely believe it is set to worsen.

The UK is at risk of becoming ungovernable, to my mind.

The young, aspirational, and those with any meaningful wealth, should exit asap, and definitely prior the October budget.

What do you suggest we do about it? Being tired of it is all very well but how do you suggest we sort the problem out? Where are you personally going to start? I was always taught to examine, past, present, and future scenarios to arrive at a workable situation. My time will soon be over as I am old but I wonder what Britain of the mid 21st century will look like? Where will AI and the Internet take us? Where will people take us? Where will this modern world of new ways of people living take us? Who knows? As they say, the answer was always there, what you need is the question to be the key to the door.

There is no such thing as the socialist utopia you seek - it does not exist.

The world is not some egalitarian paradise - it never has been, and never will be.

Completely agree and it really saddens me. What I hate is when a white racist person presumes that because you are white you will be racist and starts spouting their racist crap at you presuming you will agree. Then what saddens me even more is that young black and Asian teenagers might think I am against them just because of their experience of white racist people. The only solution in day to day life is be positive and lead by example. Speak up when needed but sometimes silence can also be very powerful. I feel so sad for our young people.

For parts of the global population it could be.
Unfortunately western societies are so entangled with greed and wealth that it wouldn’t be possible.

In which countries do you think it’s possible? Can you give an example?

So, you have not benefited from ‘greed and wealth’, correct?