This is what you get, when you don't have the death penalty.

[PassingStranger]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14967585/Serial-killer-Levi-Bellfield-Xbox-games-fry-prison-mansion.html

I'm sure the families of his victims don't really want to read this?

What's this all about. People on whole life sentences are meant to have the bare minimum

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Yeh right a country with less than a tenth of our population who spends more per capita on policing, who have what most European countries would consider draconian restrictions on daily life has a lower murder rate? I’d never have guessed.

Singapore are an outlier anyway, they have a massive focus on preventative policing and a small population

But in general across many countries there is no link whatsoever with the death penalty and lower murder rates.

Butif the accused is proven 100% guilty with evidence to prove it- death penalty.

Again a breath taking lack of foresight! Do you want to live next door to an ex con full of rage , resentment and with serious mental health issues. Or an ex con who has spent his sentence getting help for his issues and some education? I’m really struggling with how you don’t get this.

That is the standard now! Did you not know

But that is because they have a population 10 times smaller than ours, in Singapore 1 in 10 people are below the poverty line, in the UK it's 1 in 5, law enforcement is efficient - if only the same could be said here! and there is a strong sense of community and social responsibility - here it's everyone for themselves.

If there was no death penalty in Singapore I would still expect their murder rate to be very low compared to ours.

I think it makes absolute sense to encourage good behaviour in prison with perks. It's a form of control really, like treating them like kids. Be good and get rewards, be naughty and we take them away. The punishment for the crime aspect of prison is a loss of liberty and that's enough. It's safer for everyone this way.

@PassingStranger slightly off topic but I find it fascinating as a strange dichotomy that more than half the country agree euthanasia should be legalised(despite evidence showing in every country its been legalised in its been misused and people have essentially been murdered) they not only have no issue woth it they are positively FOR it.

BUT less than 40% of this pole think we should bring back capital punishment...

As someone who is pro death penalty, do you not worry about people wrongly convicted?

take the Lucy Letby case… she seemed very likely to be guilty, but now there’s a lot of doubt.

In cases like Levi Bellfield, it’s easy to argue for the death penalty.

Maybe we should just build something in the middle of the ocean with no chance of escape. Drop the food in by parachute. Survival of the fittest.

Nah, I’m never going to be complicit in any death penalty. Sorry, not on my watch!

Mumsnet just keeps going down hill.

I'm usually in the camp that prisoners need to be treated humanly.
In his case, death by torture wouldn't be tgood enough for the disgusting psycho beast. Evil.
Surprised he hasn't had a heart attack or faced rough prison justice.

I think there is an aspect to this wherein we cannot expect the law to reflect the emotional leanings of humanity

Prisoners with nothing to lose are dangerous to other inmates and the staff.
Perks are a way to keep them in line. Being removed from society, your family and friends etc, is punishment enough.

They happily lost their entire lives and liberty to commit the crime they did so 🤷‍♀️

What about Milly Dowler etc, weren't they entitled to live their lives?

Etc

Yes, but that is their punishment. There is no further punishments dished out in prison, and neither should there be... because they will then be risk to other prisoners and the staff.

Yeah milly and the other victims, sll victims were of course entitled to live their lives. Of course they are

prisoners are entitled to various things when on enhanced.

He was already insane.

Honestly I believe so many posters on here get a kick out of asserting an undeserving person is ‘entitled’ to something, just to ruffle feathers and feel more enlightened than everyone else.

This

Bellfield is completely sane. He is simply a sadist. He likes it. It suits some to say he’s insane. I believe he has a personality disorder. There’s nothing you can do about someone like this but throw away the key for life. Stop publishing articles about him. He loves it

After abducting Milly and assaulting her at his flat a few yards from Walton Station, he then drove her to his mother’s house. He reversed down a long driveway and then raped her in broad daylight over the boot of his car.
Bellfield then moved her to another location, where the rape and torture continued for a number of hours until the next day when he finally strangled her to death.

I want to post that extract from the Dowler family statement so you cannot hide from your disgust when you assert Bellfield should be able to spend the rest of his life doing enjoyable things at the taxpayers expense and is even ‘entitled’ to them.

It's more than that though.

incentives to good behaviour makes it a little safer for other inmates (guessing you may not care much about that) but also the officers working there.