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OP posts:
usedtobeaylis · 04/08/2025 18:33

I honestly couldn't give a fuck if he or any other prisoner gets a fry up and an x box. What he doesn't get to do is harm anyone else while he's in there. He doesn't get to walk out his front door and go for a pint. He doesn't get to sit in the garden or go to sleep in his own home every night with peace of mind. He doesn't get to come home from work and order a takeaway or meet a friend at the football. Deprivation of liberty is the punishment and it's a significant one.

Acommonreader · 04/08/2025 18:34

PassingStranger · 04/08/2025 16:37

Very little.

Very short sighted views. No incentives for good behaviour then? Also most people are released from prison at some point. Would you prefer ex cons to have better or worse mental health when they get back in to society?

Ashley911 · 04/08/2025 18:35

Acommonreader · 04/08/2025 18:34

Very short sighted views. No incentives for good behaviour then? Also most people are released from prison at some point. Would you prefer ex cons to have better or worse mental health when they get back in to society?

It is true sensory deprivation can make a person go insane, as was alluded by a previous poster

RafaistheKingofClay · 04/08/2025 18:36

bombastix · 04/08/2025 18:20

Tbh it would be better if the media didn’t publish articles about these scum people. They love the attention and even get off on the DM comments.

Well quite. The families wouldn’t have to read stuff like this if the DM didn’t publish this sort of rage bait to rile up readers like the OP.

I’d be quite happy if we locked up any journalist who does it.

MyDeftHedgehog · 04/08/2025 18:40

I watched the documentaries about him. He is absolutely vile, devoid of any kind of empathy or responsibility for what he did. I'm mainly on the fence about the death penalty but I think someone like him who contributes absolutely nothing to the human race, I would have no qualms about pulling the lever. Eugh horrible, repulsive individual

LittleBitofBread · 04/08/2025 18:40

SerendipityJane · 04/08/2025 17:50

There are inevitably going to be people in prison who pose a risk to the staff there, and this would be true even if we brought back the death penalty.

Well not if we only had the death penalty. No need for prisons then.

Call me Draco.

What, for murder down to petty pilfering?
Anyway, it isn't a deterrent. I don't know how many times here and elsewhere this has been said. Are people still not understanding?

bombastix · 04/08/2025 18:41

RafaistheKingofClay · 04/08/2025 18:36

Well quite. The families wouldn’t have to read stuff like this if the DM didn’t publish this sort of rage bait to rile up readers like the OP.

I’d be quite happy if we locked up any journalist who does it.

But would you be prepared to shoot a poisoned dart at the journalist via a peep hole?

I’m not saying it would kill them though. Maybe just the effects could be very bad diarrhea

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 04/08/2025 18:42

its5oclocksomewheresurely · 04/08/2025 18:27

A poisoned dart shot through the peep hole window in the door should do the trick.

Or maybe we should paralyse their arms? Wouldn’t be so dangerous then, would they? Couldn’t operate an X Box either : win/win

Edited

The ‘peephole’ is a glass window, so how?? And who?

who will be doing all this?

soupyspoon · 04/08/2025 18:43

PassingStranger · 04/08/2025 16:33

Why is he getting these extras though?
What does it mean, their hands are tied?

What extras? A play station and a fried slice.

Who cares, what sort of 'extras' are these?

He is deprived of his liberty, end of. Keeping us safe and him punished by him not being able to go about his business.

Job done.

its5oclocksomewheresurely · 04/08/2025 18:43

Acommonreader · 04/08/2025 18:34

Very short sighted views. No incentives for good behaviour then? Also most people are released from prison at some point. Would you prefer ex cons to have better or worse mental health when they get back in to society?

Dear Lord. Yes yes yes, of course we must do all that we can to look after the mental “health” of these utter scum bags! Now, where did I place my hessian bag full of tofu?

Ashley911 · 04/08/2025 18:43

The journalist already got what was coming to them apparently

bombastix · 04/08/2025 18:44

Ashley911 · 04/08/2025 18:43

The journalist already got what was coming to them apparently

A poisoned dart or otherwise. We need to know

Bbq1 · 04/08/2025 18:45

Dozycuntlaters · 04/08/2025 16:33

Well for starters how do you even know this is true. And even if it is, regardless of whether he has an x box or not, life in prison will not be good for him. I am sure the main thing for the families of his victims is the fact that he is off the streets and cannot ruin anyone elses life.

The death penalty is not a deterrent, and makes no difference to people like Bellfield.

Well it certainly would make a difference to Bellfield as he would be dead. He should be given the lethal injection. He's an absolutely evil excuse for a human. Total scum.

travellinglighter · 04/08/2025 18:45

Because the death penalty works brilliantly in the US and Russia, they have very low crime rates……..oh… hang on.

Ashley911 · 04/08/2025 18:48

bombastix · 04/08/2025 18:44

A poisoned dart or otherwise. We need to know

Got a job at the Daily Mail

bombastix · 04/08/2025 18:49

Ashley911 · 04/08/2025 18:48

Got a job at the Daily Mail

Oh a poisoned fart then

its5oclocksomewheresurely · 04/08/2025 18:49

LittleBitofBread · 04/08/2025 18:40

What, for murder down to petty pilfering?
Anyway, it isn't a deterrent. I don't know how many times here and elsewhere this has been said. Are people still not understanding?

It absolutely is a deterrent. In Singapore there is the death penalty for murder. They had 10 cases last year. We in the UK had 700.

GuestSpeakers · 04/08/2025 18:50

I’d rather have the death penalty but after seeing a BBC documentary about prisoners in solitary confinement I can’t get mad about this. Taking an already insane person and trying to drive them more insane would make us as bad as them.

travellinglighter · 04/08/2025 18:52

its5oclocksomewheresurely · 04/08/2025 17:53

I could happily work in a jail, and administer lethal jabs. I could even be in one of those Horlicks Ads "how does she sleep at night?", only I wouldn't need any Horlicks. We are far too SOFT in this Country.

You sound lovely.

bombastix · 04/08/2025 18:53

I know. This probably sounds better in the pub but in black and white it’s unhinged

Swirlythingy2025 · 04/08/2025 18:54

when people say about how much benefits cost the country etc, how much does keeping prisoner's locked up that will always be a danger to society ?

soupyspoon · 04/08/2025 18:54

its5oclocksomewheresurely · 04/08/2025 18:49

It absolutely is a deterrent. In Singapore there is the death penalty for murder. They had 10 cases last year. We in the UK had 700.

The sort of people who are going to kill people or who have that inclination are not deterred by punishment, they simply work harder to avoid getting caught.

RafaistheKingofClay · 04/08/2025 18:54

bombastix · 04/08/2025 18:41

But would you be prepared to shoot a poisoned dart at the journalist via a peep hole?

I’m not saying it would kill them though. Maybe just the effects could be very bad diarrhea

Not even for the one who doorstepped me after my sister died. Although maybe if it’s a nasty case of diarrhoea.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/08/2025 18:57

My problem with the death penalty is that the justice system makes mistakes. If someone has been given a life sentence, and their conviction is found to be wrong, they can be released and compensated. If you execute someone, and then find out they were entirely innocent, they are still dead.

bellocchild · 04/08/2025 18:58

Providing he is never, ever out in public committing crimes? They think there were others...