This is what you get, when you don't have the death penalty.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14967585/Serial-killer-Levi-Bellfield-Xbox-games-fry-prison-mansion.html

I'm sure the families of his victims don't really want to read this?

What's this all about. People on whole life sentences are meant to have the bare minimum

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because in general the prison system is favoured more towards rehabilitation of the prisoner's.

He’s never going to be released, that’s his punishment, and he richly deserves it.

If you lock people up with no windows etc they will literally go mad and that is not going to help anyone.

I think there are significant challenges for the prison and judicial systems with more very dangerous men serving long minimum terms and whole life terms in this country. Prisons need to be able to manage these men with tools they have available.

They aren’t ‘extras’

he will have bought the Xbox himself , they aren’t just given

hrs enhanced because he behaves and he’s entitled to it. You can’t pick and choose which prisoners get what

remember the scene in John Wick

Why do you think he will be segregated? It’s not allowed without good reason and certainly can’t be for long!

there was an exception for maudsley

You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

No

because when prisoners have nothing they tend to get bored and cause problems for staff.

do you think staff should be assaulted?

You worked there, you were not trapped in one.

He’s in jail with zero freedom. So what if he gets a fry up.

You need a carrot on the end of that stick OP.

But you have to have the same punishment for all convicted of the same crime and history has taught us some are wrongly convicted and we're innocent...so once you become the appointed torturer are you happy to live with effectively vomiting the same crime? It's easy to pick a certain case but to be just you must apply it to all even if later they were innocent sons or daughters...even your own innocent ones.

@cramptramp That doesn’t take into account people’s hobbies and preferences. No doubt some of the inmates love art more than they love video games. To them, a notebook and pencil would be a really treat! I thought you didn’t want them to have any treats? It’s weird that you’d allow books but not an X-Box. What’s the difference?

I don’t care what Bellfield and his ilk get in prison. I never have to think about him because he is in there and will be till he dies. We’re all free to get on with our lives and ignore his existence while he plays XBox and eats poor quality fry ups for the rest of his life. Sounds like a pretty fucking miserable existence to me.

Tbh it would be better if the media didn’t publish articles about these scum people. They love the attention and even get off on the DM comments.

I agree, it's actually pretty irresponsible. He'll find out and he'll love it. But it's more important to get those clicks.

Entitled lol.

No his neighbours will catch his new name from the media and he'll be at risk

Yes, entitled. As an enhanced prisoner.

The problem with the death penalty is the likes of Ruth Ellis and James Hanratty and others. I think theirs were very sad stories and they didn't deserve that. Easy to say in retrospect.

So instead we have whole life incarceration. Sadly these prisoners are human (although that's questionable) we have to do something with them. They need to be 'managed' for the sake of others, not particularly just for themselves. In many ways removal of freedom is worse than any other alternative.

A poisoned dart shot through the peep hole window in the door should do the trick.

Or maybe we should paralyse their arms? Wouldn’t be so dangerous then, would they? Couldn’t operate an X Box either : win/win

There will be a set of rules in prison to encourage good behaviour especially in the face of chronic staff shortages.

if you meet standards of behaviour then you’ll get xyz rewards on each tier etc

hands are tied as the system needs to be honoured otherwise becomes meaningless and you don’t get any buy in or engagement from prisoners and it becomes dangerous and impossible to manage.
source: have worked in prisons

Even if we assume for the sake of argument they don't already know, why have you presented this as an either/or?

There has to be safety for the prison staff, so some incentives for good behaviour are a good idea. He is still locked up in a grim environment.

Ah yes, 'we'. What part do you envisage taking in this process, and how much risk to your person will you be shouldering? This will, of course, include all the time he's in custody before the subduing process, when he knows it's a risk ahead of him. Let's hear more about these plans.

Just a thought really

Apologies actually meant Ruth Ellis and Derek Bentley! Sad cases.