This is what you get, when you don't have the death penalty.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14967585/Serial-killer-Levi-Bellfield-Xbox-games-fry-prison-mansion.html

I'm sure the families of his victims don't really want to read this?

What's this all about. People on whole life sentences are meant to have the bare minimum

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I'm sure you'd be fine with a job that involved just lethally jabbing people. There are, however, quite a few steps that have to be taken to bring a dangerous prisoner to the jabber, and subdue them sufficiently for it to be safe to jab. Those are the ones people are talking about. You know, the sort that involve taking on all the physical risks of assault. You might not like those quite so much.

Updo will carry out the sentence then in capital punishment then

Pardon?

Fortunately it is exactly this mentality that will forever exclude you from the responsibility, so stick with the Horlicks

I work across several acute psychiatric wards and if he's not under a mental health act then I don't see the relevance.

The way we treat prisoners is not because we believe they are forgiven but because WE are a compassionate society.

Whilst you may wish to deny this person tiny privileges, which is the whole systems currency, you also wish the same for every prisoner - some with horrific histories themselves. I worked for many years in forensic mental health wards where the majority of people had been unwell for years, with terrible childhoods and no security or loving family. I worked hard to get them working, privileges, and discharges because we live in a compassionate society.

We value freedom and this most prized possession is denied to prisoners. Small privileges support the system to reduce the cost of housing them and provide opportunities for rehabilitation for many prisoners who WILL be released at some stage.

This

These threads always bring out the people who agree with the killers they claim to hate that killing people is OK.

Presumably we'd have to move to lethal injection because judging by the maths question elsewhere, no one could work out the drops ?

Additionally we'd have to change prison officers contracts to stop them wimping out of being involved in executions as a matter of conscience ?

Brexit was better thought out that this.

Yup.
Bet they’re all Reform voters too.

What benefit do you thing converting confers inside a category A prison?

I don’t think he even deserves a window.

Well yes. Apparently they used to get hundreds of applications to be hangmen when it was legal.

A lot of very odd people get gratification from power over others like this. Only some are in prison

As if the last thread wasn't dispiriting enough.

Honestly, if you haven't worked in a prison, you don't really know what it's like in there. You give these things as a method of control - if they break rules they get things taken away. Being locked away from the world is a punishment. He will never see the light of day again thank God.

For those of you who want the death penalty, one of the best arguments against it is the obvious fact that we don't have a good enough system to be sure everyone that's convicted is guilty.

Innocent people die all the time. And obviously people who support the death penalty don't care anyway, so that's not a great argument.

Much better to concentrate on the costs. People who support the death penalty tend to be obsessed by material things as this thread shows.

And some are allowed to serve on juries.

Maybe he converted back to Imperial. What's not to like ?

The costs point is leg, but meanwhile campaigning to make our justice better is something tangible that death penalty supporters could start doing today. It's a way to be the change you want to see. They don't have to care about innocent people being executed themselves, only understand that some other people do.

Do not understand

This. I haven't, but someone dear to me did for years, and it sickens me to see how little consideration some people have for them and those still doing the job. I understand that not everyone will realise this before it's been pointed out, but shutting the fuck up once you know better is free.

"If he has an XBox, he’s less likely to stab someone with a toothbrush."

He'd be even less likely to if he was dead.

Not an Xbox or any sort of games console. Tv, books, drawing equipment. But that’s it.

Really. You’d give someone like Bellfield a pencil or a pen unsupervised?

The costs point is leg, but meanwhile campaigning to make our justice better is something tangible that death penalty supporters could start doing today.

But none of them are interested in justice. They'd be scribbling cock and balls within 30 seconds of the meeting starting.

More difficult to make a shiv from an Xbox I’d have thought.