300 children from Gaza to be brought to the UK for free specialist NHS care

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According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide).

Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

I am well aware that the war has been going on for centuries. The active stage of fighting however was most definitely caused by the October 7th atrocities - before that the countries both lived in a relative state of peace.

Don't bother. That post speaks volumes.

I know what you mean, but I'm think this is the result of services being so poor and having such long waiting lists now in a way they weren't before. I don't in any way grudge these poor kids treatment. But I do have empathy for the intense frustration and pain for those who are waiting for urgent treatment for their own children. It is difficult to be sympathetic towards others when your own are not being looked after properly.

I am talking of roles were reversed....they would not go out of their way to help western people...like it or not that's a fact

Exactly. It’s been going on ever since 1948, when Israel was founded - and possibly from before then, when plans were being made to found Israel.

It clearly isn’t a fact.

They are literally starving, what’s wrong with you.

The waiting times vary from trust to trust. Urgent and critical cases are seen much quicker than 17 weeks. I think it’s safe to say Gazan children would probably be considered as critical. Do you know whether these children being treated will mean a longer waiting time for U.K. children?

My daughter has spent a whole lot of time under paediatric care, various surgeries, therapies, treatments etc. If I were told we need to wait a week or two more for treatment because there were some Gazan children are being cared for, I’d be fine with that. We’ve been pushed down waiting lists because more urgent cases came up. Kids who urgently need care are kids, no matter what.

Frankly, it’s the least we can do given the government has stood by and done fuck all about the fact Gazans are in the situation they are in.

Eye for an eye and the world goes blind

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/boy-denied-treatment-nhs-hospital-private-school-kingston-richmond-b1231805.html

Can you give any examples of anyone who is urgently waiting for their child to be treated in hospital?

Sorry what would you like them to do, how do you suggest you get rid of a terrorist government? Plus whether its the UK's fault or not isn't the point. We should help other countries (plus economic foreign policy shows it benefits us in the long-run). It's foreign policy and also the basis on good international relations to help countries, richer countries have a responsibility to help others and work together out of humanity but also in the long-term self-interest.

Where’s the data to show which countries and numbers?

OP isn't begrudging these 300 children.

OP is simply noting how the UK governement has just demonstrated that improved medical care (an increase in capacity and therefore expedited treatments, which amounts to an improvement in medical care) would have been possible beforehand. So why hasn't the UK government done that (up to now)?

This shows (at least according to the OP) that the UK government could have improved medical care for hundres of children. If they had wanted to…

In the article at the start of the thread!!!!

What difference does their religion make?
Amyway, this post is a teeny bit above yours. Local countries are doing far more.

Except the U.K. government aren’t paying for this. So it shows nothing of the sort.

They could. The money is there. I believe it should be spent on improving the NHS. Unfortunately it seems that polling both recent governments have done suggest that isn’t what will get them votes.

So are these poor children going to have medical attention and then be returned to appalling conditions in Gaza? That is just horrific.

Just a note - these children aren't Hamas. They are totally and utterly innocent. There can be more innocents in the entire heinous happening than these children.

I also think Israel should be taking these children in and treating them. They need to be face to face with what they have done.

Some very depressing posts in this thread.
I'm happy we are helping these kids. I hope we help as many as we can.

Thanks for sharing OP. Good to hear some positive news in a miserable and hateful time. I hope we can help these kids with both their physical and mental health trauma.

It would be worth looking into ‘resettling’ in Gaza which has sadly been happening for decades. There are also some really interesting maps of the size of Gaza over the years. It hasn’t been peaceful over there sadly, Israel has been taking land piece by piece for years. Death by a thousand cuts comes to mind. It’s such an incredibly desperate situation as the Israeli people also need a safe place to live.

Erm that's not true many countries in Africa and the Middle East have helped the UK. Those people from Afghanistan risked their lives protecting British troops, many in Syria again worked with the British and put themselves at serious risk. Again Qatar, the UAE provide aid across the world and I'm sure they would help out. If you're taking about Hamas (then no they wouldn't help out) but I would hope that a state has better values than a terrorist group. I would hope the UK prides themselves on being better than terrorist groups who harm people and wouldn't lower to a terrorist group's standards.

Thank you. I’ve been getting quite upset about the state of MN today.