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300 children from Gaza to be brought to the UK for free specialist NHS care

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Fragmentedbrain · 03/08/2025 01:33

According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide).

Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

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GrammarTeacher · 03/08/2025 13:03

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 03/08/2025 13:02

Worried with good reason. My last reply was deleted but the last thing the UK needs is an influx of Gazan extremism. Some Western populations really do not understand what they would be getting themselves into.

The Arab countries have taken them in.

ViolaCello · 03/08/2025 13:03

I wouldn't trust a single known political party with this issue, and especially not those that claim to want to deal with it.

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 03/08/2025 13:04

GrammarTeacher · 03/08/2025 13:03

The Arab countries have taken them in.

Then who is coming to the UK?

Sunshineandoranges · 03/08/2025 13:04

I think we should help but are all first world countries offering an
equal amount of help to these children.

BIossomtoes · 03/08/2025 13:04

Fragmentedbrain · 03/08/2025 13:02

I don't have a problem with people who do important jobs getting paid well for them. The point here is there IS more money. We could be getting adults off disability by treating their chronic conditions too. But none of this happens because electorate monkeys want shiny shiny.

This is being carried out with donated money.

Jumpthewaves · 03/08/2025 13:05

Lovethystupidneighbour · 03/08/2025 13:01

Isn’t it funny how you highlight injured and malnourished children getting medical care as your argument and not the millions frittered away in middle management and the top dogs taking an all too healthy wage.

I agree, perhaps we should review parliamentary expenses again? Why on earth they need subsidised fancy meals and a second home budget. There is so much money wasted on things that are just not important or necessary.

Cappuccino5 · 03/08/2025 13:05

StillChangingForTheBetter · 03/08/2025 12:58

If you have an urgent need for healthcare in this country, you will get it. Yes, waiting lists can be long, but when you need it, it is there.

We are the ones causing this suffering to these children. our government is arming the people bombing them. The least we could do is offer some medical care.

‘We are the ones causing this suffering to these children‘

What about their own ‘government’ who kickstarted the war in the first place by the October 7th massacre? Before that Gazan citizens were trusted to work in Israel and were able to receive proper healthcare (primarily driven by the same volunteers that they murdered in neighbouring Kibbutz communities!!) across the border. They spent years of aid money from foreign governments on bombs, military training and underground tunnels instead of investing in their own civilians. To suggest this is the fault of the UK is absolutely ridiculous.

FlowerUser · 03/08/2025 13:05

Fragmentedbrain · 03/08/2025 12:57

Agree. I'm not arguing against the Gazan children being treated. I'm arguing that this shows that we could be treating hundreds of extra children and hitherto we've just not arsed ourselves.

£1 billion each has been given to three hospitals near me (not London), to refurbish them - money denied by the Tories.

Yes, the money is there and we will see improvements, but it takes time to repair the damage done by years of underfunding.

GOSH is a specialist children’s hospital for the most severe and rare cases. Nearly every major hospital in the UK has children’s facilities. By comparing the number of beds at GOSH to the number of children coming from Gaza, you are portraying a system that will buckle by the addition of 300 children from overseas. This is not the case and is alarmist. I imagine more than 300 children will be admitted over this weekend from A&E alone. It is possible that more than 300 children had appointments and surgery delayed or cancelled because of the doctors’ strike last week.

Why don’t you take your alarmist anti-compassion for starving children and do some constructive instead?

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 13:05

Ladamesansmerci · 03/08/2025 10:57

Sorry but if you really begrudge 300 children from a warzone where hospitals are being bombed and people are starving to death medical care, have a word with yourself.

Having a backlog is a separate issue and is a picture of wider issues in the NHS. It does not mean we should not support children who are victims of war crimes and genocide.

We have played a significant role in the tensions between Israel and Palestine and imo have a moral duty to help and also to stop supplying Israel with arms.

I'd also hope that if Scotland were bombing us, for example, that other countries would be willing to support our injured children if our medical infrastructure was being ravaged.

😂 I know that Palestine definitely would not be flying us over there to treat us.

Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 13:06

No3392 · 03/08/2025 01:36

Because all this 'we have no money' thing is crap.

I am so glad we're helping these children though. I really don't think that they are one of the things the gov is frittering money away on.

Agree on both counts 👏👏

Fragmentedbrain · 03/08/2025 13:06

BIossomtoes · 03/08/2025 13:04

This is being carried out with donated money.

No it isn't. A previous round was. This is being funded by the government. They are two separate projects.

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BIossomtoes · 03/08/2025 13:07

Fragmentedbrain · 03/08/2025 13:06

No it isn't. A previous round was. This is being funded by the government. They are two separate projects.

Yes it is.

Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 13:07

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 13:05

😂 I know that Palestine definitely would not be flying us over there to treat us.

To state the bleedin’ obvious, that is because we have the money and resources available to treat Palestinians, but Palestine (Gaza, to be exact) most definitely does not have the money or the resources to treat us. That can’t have escaped your attention.

LadyKenya · 03/08/2025 13:07

Jumpthewaves · 03/08/2025 13:05

I agree, perhaps we should review parliamentary expenses again? Why on earth they need subsidised fancy meals and a second home budget. There is so much money wasted on things that are just not important or necessary.

True.

Lovethystupidneighbour · 03/08/2025 13:07

Cappuccino5 · 03/08/2025 13:05

‘We are the ones causing this suffering to these children‘

What about their own ‘government’ who kickstarted the war in the first place by the October 7th massacre? Before that Gazan citizens were trusted to work in Israel and were able to receive proper healthcare (primarily driven by the same volunteers that they murdered in neighbouring Kibbutz communities!!) across the border. They spent years of aid money from foreign governments on bombs, military training and underground tunnels instead of investing in their own civilians. To suggest this is the fault of the UK is absolutely ridiculous.

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I don’t agree it’s the UKs fault, but to think 7th October is what kickstarted the war is incredibly ignorant and fixed with a quick google. This war has been going on since before any of us existed

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/08/2025 13:08

They say "The internet doesn't forget", I hope that's true. I hope people's Genocide apologism, famine denial, hate and racist based stupidity follow them for rest of their lives.

EastGrinstead · 03/08/2025 13:08

Fragmentedbrain · 03/08/2025 10:39

I tell you this kindly - you are not good at reasoning and should think about whether you can improve.

This thread is not in favour denying healthcare. It is against healthcare currently being denied on demonstrably optional grounds.

Some needs to tell you this @Fragmentedbrain but you are a miserable excuse for a human being.

GrammarTeacher · 03/08/2025 13:08

Sunshineandoranges · 03/08/2025 13:04

I think we should help but are all first world countries offering an
equal amount of help to these children.

Yes. Read the thread and/or the article.

violetcuriosity · 03/08/2025 13:09

Cappuccino5 · 03/08/2025 13:05

‘We are the ones causing this suffering to these children‘

What about their own ‘government’ who kickstarted the war in the first place by the October 7th massacre? Before that Gazan citizens were trusted to work in Israel and were able to receive proper healthcare (primarily driven by the same volunteers that they murdered in neighbouring Kibbutz communities!!) across the border. They spent years of aid money from foreign governments on bombs, military training and underground tunnels instead of investing in their own civilians. To suggest this is the fault of the UK is absolutely ridiculous.

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This didn’t start on October the 7th, this has been going on for years and years. Both sides have their views and it is woven with religion, politics and history. Both parties have been treated abysmally by the rest of the world and each other throughout history. It isn’t about Hamas and the IDF, not truly, they are the current cover faces for it all. The deeper issues need mediating but I honestly can’t see how there will ever be a resolution that will be satisfactory to both sides sadly.

GrammarTeacher · 03/08/2025 13:09

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 13:05

😂 I know that Palestine definitely would not be flying us over there to treat us.

They couldn’t. Their hospitals are almost entirely destroyed.

Thegreyhound · 03/08/2025 13:09

Fragmentedbrain · 03/08/2025 12:54

Sorry but you're behind the times. This is funded by British taxpayers. And you are part of the problem with society now. You've decided you want a fight about how kind you are and how evil someone else (me on this occasion) is and you've shut your brain down.

You'd rather just sit colouring in your wee Palestine flags for your window than think about boring domestic policy, I get it.

This of course is why the NHS won't improve day to day. There is money. But people like you only think about the Shiny Current Thing so politicians won't invest in the basics.

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This take is so wild I don’t even know where to start with it.

Fragmentedbrain · 03/08/2025 13:10

EastGrinstead · 03/08/2025 13:08

Some needs to tell you this @Fragmentedbrain but you are a miserable excuse for a human being.

You are the one arguing against expedited treatment for children... I mean you probably don't understand what you're saying so don't worry about it.

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Fandango52 · 03/08/2025 13:10

DinoLil · 03/08/2025 10:41

I've not read the article, but are their parents coming as well? They'll need board and shelter.

Presumably some of them are orphans - I don’t know though.

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 13:11

GrammarTeacher · 03/08/2025 13:09

They couldn’t. Their hospitals are almost entirely destroyed.

I'm talking if roles were reversed... obviously 🤦🏼‍♀️

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