300 children from Gaza to be brought to the UK for free specialist NHS care

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According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide).

Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

More than 50,000 children have been killed or injured since the war began according to UNICEF. I'm glad we're doing a little something to help some of those poor kids.

The rest of Europe wasn't exactly in love with Ukraine. Yet all countries excl Russian muppet Hungary gave a lot of support incl accepting refugees. Probably because Ukrainian children aren't brought up to hate and to kill and don't become child soldiers at 12.

And yes, if Scotland decided to genocide England I have zero doubts that European countries would help. Not ME, but Europe.

There is a ton of evidence about the Dr who worked at King's College London who was raped to death as a hostage in an Israeli prison. It has had international attention and condemnation. There are videos of the IDF using shields to try and disguise their raping another hostage.. these things have been on the UK news. When IDF soldiers were charged with rape of hostages the Israeli public rioted and Knesset politicians said it was acceptable. All this is evidence before the ICC.
I work for a charity and we dont publish CEO details on our website.

Its a well known fact that the Palestinians have long been un-popular / kept at arms length by the majority of the Arab world, which is why those countries nearby haven't been exactly throwing their doors open to the Palestinians or shutting Israel down.

Some reading

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/21/why-arab-states-wont-support-palestinians-qa-00142277

'I work for a charity and we dont publish CEO details on our website'

Well you should. Charities should be 100% transparent with their ceo, board members, ethos and backgrounds.

My point about a gazan Dr allegedly murdered in an Israeli hospital is it's an odd item to include on the site of a project involved in healthcare provision in different countries isn't it? These charities should try and demonstrate neutrality. As I say it's gone today. I wonder if their site will be updated with all their members named it's all a bit murky at the mo.

We'll have another 300 next month

The figure is up to 300. The children aren't going to arrive en masse, as @MsJinks explained in her excellent posts.

I am glad this horror of a thread is almost at an end.

Where would you have them go? At what stage of treatment? As soon as the anaesthetic wears off or are they allowed some rehabilitation first? What about after-care? What if treatment takes several years – we’re talking war injuries, not grazed knees – and they’re feeling settled and safe here?

What better way to radicalise a child than to send them straight back to a war zone before the stitches have even healed.

I sure there'll be another one. You know we are all allowed to discuss our concerns. To simplistically wail about the plight of children is very easy, however we can all have compassion whilst pointing out common sense solutions. This will be the start of the scheme. The Uk's nhs should provide healthcare for it's population.

Project pure hope should negotiate further with wealthy Arab nations to achieve more in the ME.

Did you protest on social media about the Ukranian children who came to the UK for cancer treatments?

we can all have compassion whilst pointing out common sense solutions

Ah, so all you people gnashing your teeth about 300 sick children are medics with knowledge of the medical needs of these children. Right.

You know, even Farage is not making a fuss about this. Or he wasn't yesterday.

I didn't mean to post, but you're being naive.

I'm in my '60s. My dad finished up in the UK as a Dispossessed Person after the war. There were many hoops that he had to jump through before he was allowed to enter the UK - he was in British Army run DP camps in Italy, Germany and England before being transferred to Scotland where he lived in a mineworkers' hostel and had to report to the local police station once a week until the 1960s. (I still have his "Alien Card".)

At 17, he might legally have been a child, but he was a soldier at that age. It was the same for many of the DPs who ended up in the UK.

I've not read all of the thread, I admit.

Are you saying that the music festival wasn't attacked or have I misunderstood?

Project Pure Hope should do exactly what it deems fit as having the greatest positive impact. The absolute audacity of some random on the internet!

There’s just one positive thing about this horrible, toxic thread and that’s that a number of posters including me have been moved to make a donation to them.

Surely what we need to be concentrating is ensuring that the government finds money to treat children?

As I think a pp said, Covid showed that money can be found when desired - there should be no need for UK children to have to wait for life-saving treatment. (I see that pps have pointed out that the children being flown over from Gaza will have their treatment funded privately.)

Money was not ‘found’ for bloody covid, we are billions of pounds in debt!!!! Honestly the lack of economic comprehension on this site is terrifying.

Covid was so eye waterig, so expensive it will take GENERATIONS to pay it off…

Your response confirms my way of thinking - it's not just treatment, they will most certainly stay here permanently. And will bring their families in.

And this is exactly why I don't want them to come here, but I'm happy for my taxes to be spent to treat them close to their homes.

So the money was found. It was borrowed. Still found.

I’m fully aware 17 year olds can be in the army. I was commenting on someone who seemed to think that all Palestinians are terrorists

To be fair, we are helping with that as well e.g.

3 August 2025 - (pp's Sky News link up thread)
The government has also pledged another £1m to help the World Health Organisation in Egypt provide medical support to evacuated Gazans.

16 October 2024
The UK announces £1 million of assistance to Egyptian health authority to support medically evacuated Palestinians from Gaza.

From Project Pure Hope:

We intend to return the children to a place of physical and psychological safety where they can continue their rehabilitation (likely within the wider Middle East / GCC region which will be established on a case by case basis, and planned for as part of the assessment and triage process). Transfer and return of children after treatment will adhere to UN guidelines, domestic and international law.Our partner NGO (PCRF) has successfully repatriated children they took to the US, by arranging accommodation in Egypt before taking them to the US, so they had a place to return to. We are taking a similar approach with PCRF for our project. We are also working with the UN Refugee Agency to ensure that we adhere to international law and that children are repatriated according to their recommendations.

I admit to being thick.

I recall being told that all governments are in debt. If we were prepared to go into debt for the Covid emergency and (presumably) in order to provide international aid why do we balk at further debt for medical care?

Ah, right. I was responding to your apparent disbelief that a 17 yr old might be engaged in conflict. My misunderstanding.

The mysterious project pure hope who omit to identify members on their site.

They should surely realise that to relocate patients thousands of miles away for treatment available more locally is not common sense or even in patients best interests travel wise.

MsJinks
I didn’t see all this uproar when pets were evacuated from Afghanistan

Were you hiding under a rock?

I mean maybe they are, suspect I would be if I was a Palestinian 17 year old, but that poster took a four and two year old coming to the UK for hospital treatment and went straight to a 17 year old holding Israelis hostage. Hopefully you can see that’s a bit of a leap, given the context of the thread being about sick children