300 children from Gaza to be brought to the UK for free specialist NHS care

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According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide).

Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

Many of us happy to contribute via our taxes or donations to charities

You want to deny children treatment in the UK, most of us do not.

Right so you want them treated in Egypt (which you’re happy to pay for) but I should also prove to you they won’t stay in the UK, even though they’ll be in Egypt have I understood correctly

This is just a natural response to a decades long murderous occupation...you expect the them to gently submit to apartheid? Thousands of Palestinians taken hostage and held without due process for decades?

Off course the occupiers are terrified of the people they oppress.

All the evidence of racism and teaching children to hate has been video after video of Israelis...most recently stopping baby milk going into Gaza.

How should people repeatedly murdered protest in your world view?

It is racist and your world view is divisive and alarming

That's 600 people added to the UK population of 70 million, that's just not sustainable. UK can't possibly be expected to cope with that.

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More children from Gaza to be brought to UK for urgent medical treatment | Politics News | Sky News

"A parent or guardian will accompany each child, as well as siblings if necessary"

Given average family size and the fact they can bring siblings it's going to be much more than 600 people.

hm.... I still remember footages of blooded cots after 7th October... and reports (not SM, established news outlets across the world) about microwaved babies? Hamas were giving them help?

You know, this mysteries Hamas fighters live somewhere in Gaza, have parents, siblings, wives, etc. The latest stats I remember there were about 200k of Hamas in a population of 2m. It means pretty much every family have at least one hamas soldier. Don't they support them at all?

Treat the children, don't let them stay here. Not for financial reasons, for security.

"Whilst any doctor will welcome the evacuation of a few lucky children, this is a mere drop in the ocean compared with what needs to be done."

And some people want to UK to reject these children

I’m four years old and have a traumatic injury. My parents live in a war zone and I’m one of the few lucky ones who get to go to England for an operation.

You reckon my two year old brother should stay home yeah? Just checking

I dont think OP is 'denying kids from Gaza help' merely pointing out that as you say, a child is a child, whatever their nationality and thus if a British child requires essential surgery and is told to wait 15 weeks, why does the child from Gaza not need to wait 15 weeks if they are coming to the UK and requiring the same treatment? I would have thought it reasonable to assume that the UK child requiring medical assistance would have been a greater priority to the UK Gov.

It is crazy to me that the UK Gov is demanding the war ends whilst supplying arms to Israel and simultaneously providing medical care to children in Gaza?! Our position in this war seems unbelievable.

Incredible, 10/10, absolutely phenomenal stuff

No, he’s just a kid as well! Why would you think that?

UN says average family size in Gaza is 5.8. Hamas won't let men out - experience from the many other countries who've provided health care to seriously ill/injured Palestian kids. So that leave 4.8. Lets say that just one of the siblings is over 12, and Hamas don't consider them as children so again they don't get out, so that leaves 3.8.

So sick child, mother and 2 siblings come to the UK for medical treatment, so not 600 immigrants, but 1,200.

My apologies for grossly underestimating the numbers the UK are going to be burdened with.

Germany, France, Ireland, Austria and others have already taken in Palestinian kids for treatment. Some countries, like some people, are just weak.

Fucking hell.
Sweetheart, did the IDF blow off your limb?

Well, following your logic your posts are just antisemitism then.

Debunked? Have you seen We Will Dance Again? Highly recommend you watch it. Hamas filmed their atrocities.

Do you want the Palestinian child and family to wait 15 weeks for treatment?

15 weeks of housing? 15 weeks of walking on the paths and wearing them out?

Read @Newstove

one of the siblings is over 12, and Hamas don't consider them as children

This is report from 2001. I don't believe it got any better.

Child Soldiers Global Report 2001 - Palestinian Authority/Occupied Territories | Refworld

There is no military training in regular schools. However, in the summer of 2000 it was estimated that nearly 50,000 children were enrolled in military-style camps, which included military discipline rules and training in the use of light arms. These were mostly organised by a government organisation, the Political Guidance and Training Unit.

There have been reports of children below 15 years of age in Hamas, with the lowest recorded age being 12.

Before you start jumping again - I am NOT against treating these children even under NHS. I am very much against of them staying in the UK after treatment.

Reported for Antisemitism

The vast bulk of the money to treat these children will be coming from philanthropic or charity or aid organisations, not from the NHS budget or your taxes.

Even if it were, this is one thing I absolutely do not begrudge money being spent on. Couldn’t think of anything more worthwhile. Those poor children.

why does the child from Gaza not need to wait 15 weeks if they are coming to the UK and requiring the same treatment?

Because it won’t be the same treatment. These are children with horrific injuries, the kind that would get a kid here blue lighted or helicoptered to a major trauma unit.