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Fragmentedbrain · 2025-08-03T00:33:06+00:00

According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide). Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

Anyahyacinth · 03/08/2025 23:08

Every specific case I've heard about is funded privately (I think 1 child has actually travelled in 2 years) ...linking this to NHS priorities is ridiculous that's about government priorities..Trident or healthcare, vastly increasing defence spending or healthcare, allowing multi multi million pound firms to pay no tax = no money for healthcare. Tax avoidance = no money for healthcare. The UK are completely linked to the trauma injuries these children have sustained and we have ignored our moral obligation to help them for far too long. The NHS has been dissassembled as government policy for years / decades unrelated to Gaza ..unless you mean government spending on harmful priorities rather than healthcare...this is an irrelevance and cruel

IsoscelesSandwich · 03/08/2025 23:08

globaldrawers · 03/08/2025 23:05

It all sounds very noble - there’s just the issue that the Palestinian Authority’s new educational curriculum used in Gaza (including many UNRWA managed schools) includes language portraying the Jewish people as deceitful, immoral manipulators, glorification of Jihad and past terrorist attacks (including Oct 7). Maths problems and reading exercises include reference to martyrdom and violent assaults against Jews.

Of course it’s only right to want to help children but if these families are allowed to stay, we may well be importing a terrible problem right into the country.

Not sure how big a problem this is since all their schools have been bombed to shit.
Any if you don’t want to piss off an entire generation, try not murdering most of them in their tens of thousands. That sticks out as the biggest rabble rouser, rather than say, a curriculum.

Anyahyacinth · 03/08/2025 23:08

Every specific case I've heard about is funded privately (I think 1 child has actually travelled in 2 years) ...linking this to NHS priorities is ridiculous that's about government priorities..Trident or healthcare, vastly increasing defence spending or healthcare, allowing multi multi million pound firms to pay no tax = no money for healthcare. Tax avoidance = no money for healthcare. The UK are completely linked to the trauma injuries these children have sustained and we have ignored our moral obligation to help them for far too long. The NHS has been dissassembled as government policy for years / decades unrelated to Gaza ..unless you mean government spending on harmful priorities rather than healthcare...this is an irrelevance and cruel

DuncinToffee · 03/08/2025 23:09

nearlylovemyusername · 03/08/2025 23:04

Do you have issues with reading comprehension? Please see my post at 22:35

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You are agreeing with that poster that these children are radicalised and therefore a danger to the UK

Anyahyacinth · 03/08/2025 23:11

Fordian · 03/08/2025 10:44

I readily admit I don’t know why the wealthy Arab countries much closer to their home aren’t providing this care.

It all feels rather performative.

They are

Anyahyacinth · 03/08/2025 23:13

dottiehens · 03/08/2025 11:35

Of course once they are here. This would be the next plea and follow but we should bring the whole family. Honestly, it will never end for some.

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Then protest....because Israels plan is to displace these people where do you think they will go? Asylum claims are a result of the wars we participate in abroad

ConscientiousObserver · 03/08/2025 23:13

TooBigForMyBoots · 03/08/2025 23:02

Ooh. Ooh. I see what you did there.

You said something most people will agree on, and then said something totally mental to push your view that Palestinian children are different to other children.

It's a tactic much used by conspiracy theorists and scumbag, internet scammers like Andrew Tate.

Shame on you!

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Do you not think Palestinians are radicalised by Hamas then?

Maybe take a look at the celebratory videos of 22 year old Shani Louk’s naked, broken dead body being paraded around Gaza in the back of a truck while she is held up by her hair, being spat on and hit with sticks by civilians.

Also the Bibas family’s bodies being brought out of Gaza after Kfir aged 9 months, Ariel aged 4 and their mother Sheri aged 34, were kidnapped from their home and murdered and mutilated in captivity, while civilians celebrated with their children to upbeat music.

Also the hostage survivors accounts of being held in civilian houses.

Also the civilians who took part in Oct 7th,

Are you sure?

Thegreyhound · 03/08/2025 23:15

nearlylovemyusername · 03/08/2025 22:56

@ConscientiousObserver

My thoughts exactly, expressed very well.

No one seems to have bothered to question why this didn’t happen,

This was questioned at that time. Egypt didn't want them, they are too dangerous and impossible to distinguish from Hamas.

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Dear both of you- all Palestinians, children and adults alike, should have been able to continue living in Palestine. Palestine. Not Egypt, not here, in their own state- Palestine.

nearlylovemyusername · 03/08/2025 23:16

DuncinToffee · 03/08/2025 23:09

You are agreeing with that poster that these children are radicalised and therefore a danger to the UK

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I do wholeheartedly agree that these children and their families must not be allowed to stay in the UK after they received their treatment.

They absolutely should be given treatment, but I'd feel much happier if the same amount of taxpayers funding which is going to be spend on them here would be spent to treat them elsewhere outside of the UK. With all my respect to GOSH and other NHS hospitals I don't believe they are so unique. I'd rather send this money (the taxes I pay) to get them treated closer to their homes.

Anyahyacinth · 03/08/2025 23:16

WearyAuldWumman · 03/08/2025 12:22

I don't think that the OP begrudges helping these children. Rather, she's pointing out that the resources are there when the government wishes to use them.

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But she's wrong because the government arent funding this

Thegreyhound · 03/08/2025 23:18

ConscientiousObserver · 03/08/2025 23:13

Do you not think Palestinians are radicalised by Hamas then?

Maybe take a look at the celebratory videos of 22 year old Shani Louk’s naked, broken dead body being paraded around Gaza in the back of a truck while she is held up by her hair, being spat on and hit with sticks by civilians.

Also the Bibas family’s bodies being brought out of Gaza after Kfir aged 9 months, Ariel aged 4 and their mother Sheri aged 34, were kidnapped from their home and murdered and mutilated in captivity, while civilians celebrated with their children to upbeat music.

Also the hostage survivors accounts of being held in civilian houses.

Also the civilians who took part in Oct 7th,

Are you sure?

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You are on a thread about children receiving medical treatment smearing these children and their families. It is absolutely disgusting. Shame on you

Anyahyacinth · 03/08/2025 23:19

ConscientiousObserver · 03/08/2025 23:13

Do you not think Palestinians are radicalised by Hamas then?

Maybe take a look at the celebratory videos of 22 year old Shani Louk’s naked, broken dead body being paraded around Gaza in the back of a truck while she is held up by her hair, being spat on and hit with sticks by civilians.

Also the Bibas family’s bodies being brought out of Gaza after Kfir aged 9 months, Ariel aged 4 and their mother Sheri aged 34, were kidnapped from their home and murdered and mutilated in captivity, while civilians celebrated with their children to upbeat music.

Also the hostage survivors accounts of being held in civilian houses.

Also the civilians who took part in Oct 7th,

Are you sure?

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Only the ill educated believe this has anything to do with October 7th...this is a decades long murderous oppression.

Though we can forget ALL that because these are children...they have no political voice...they are CHILDREN

nearlylovemyusername · 03/08/2025 23:20

Anyahyacinth · 03/08/2025 23:16

But she's wrong because the government arent funding this

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another one... OMG

it. is. government. funded. scheme.

DuncinToffee · 03/08/2025 23:21

nearlylovemyusername · 03/08/2025 23:16

I do wholeheartedly agree that these children and their families must not be allowed to stay in the UK after they received their treatment.

They absolutely should be given treatment, but I'd feel much happier if the same amount of taxpayers funding which is going to be spend on them here would be spent to treat them elsewhere outside of the UK. With all my respect to GOSH and other NHS hospitals I don't believe they are so unique. I'd rather send this money (the taxes I pay) to get them treated closer to their homes.

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They have the right to claim asylum and if granted they can settle in the UK.

If they are so dangerous, why do you want other countries to step up instead of the UK?

Thegreyhound · 03/08/2025 23:21

ConscientiousObserver · 03/08/2025 23:13

Do you not think Palestinians are radicalised by Hamas then?

Maybe take a look at the celebratory videos of 22 year old Shani Louk’s naked, broken dead body being paraded around Gaza in the back of a truck while she is held up by her hair, being spat on and hit with sticks by civilians.

Also the Bibas family’s bodies being brought out of Gaza after Kfir aged 9 months, Ariel aged 4 and their mother Sheri aged 34, were kidnapped from their home and murdered and mutilated in captivity, while civilians celebrated with their children to upbeat music.

Also the hostage survivors accounts of being held in civilian houses.

Also the civilians who took part in Oct 7th,

Are you sure?

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You clearly think that Israeli lives are worth more than Palestinian lives.
That is a racist position to take.

ConscientiousObserver · 03/08/2025 23:21

DuncinToffee · 03/08/2025 23:07

So what are you saying then?

Many, if not all, Gazans are radicalised into Hamas’ extremist ideology from birth.

The decision to take in radicalised family groups like this who are 99.9% likely to stay in the UK, which will include adults as parents/carers and teen or young adult siblings, (the child themselves could be a teen up to age 19 - Hamas uses child soldiers), is absolutely counter to the security of UK citizens, especially Jewish people IMO,

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That’s what I said Yes.

I also said there are plenty of Arab States who could, and should be offering medical care.

Anyahyacinth · 03/08/2025 23:22

CinnamonCinnabar · 03/08/2025 20:29

Does anyone have a link to a charity funding treatment for these kids? I'd be very happy to donate -I'm already a supporter of Medicins Sans Frontieres who do amazing work in Gaza and other horrific places

https://msf.org.uk/secure/donate

Me too

PersephoneSeethes · 03/08/2025 23:22

MightyDandelionEsq · 03/08/2025 22:38

I’m glad someone else googled this fact. Also says as the top result that 25% of uk adults are in poverty and 1 in 3 children are. Every year we drop down the league tables for living standards.

Could argue that in comparison to a war torn environment that’s negligible. But I see why people are starting to lose empathy if they feel resource extraction is taking place. It’s a natural response irrespective of if someone else has it worse. Everyone’s feeling quite beaten down in the uk and empathy starts to dissipate when people feel downtrodden.

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Oh and look at that, from your website, Qatar 3rd wealthiest, UAE 11th and Saudi Arabia 20th with UK coming in 21st.

The wealthiest Arab countries can look after the Gazans after sitting on their hands for decades and not helping to get Hamas under control.

DuncinToffee · 03/08/2025 23:22

ConscientiousObserver · 03/08/2025 23:21

That’s what I said Yes.

I also said there are plenty of Arab States who could, and should be offering medical care.

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So I was right that you do not want Palestinian children treated in the UK then.

Anyahyacinth · 03/08/2025 23:24

Nestingbirds · 03/08/2025 20:56

This is fucking ridiculous when amazing healthcare is available to them in the ME!! Why have we nominated ourselves as literally an open door to everyone in the entire world. It just gets worse by the day.

It really doesn't, unless you need an excuse to be racist

Thegreyhound · 03/08/2025 23:25

PersephoneSeethes · 03/08/2025 23:22

Oh and look at that, from your website, Qatar 3rd wealthiest, UAE 11th and Saudi Arabia 20th with UK coming in 21st.

The wealthiest Arab countries can look after the Gazans after sitting on their hands for decades and not helping to get Hamas under control.

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You are singling out ‘Arab’ nations. Why?

nearlylovemyusername · 03/08/2025 23:26

DuncinToffee · 03/08/2025 23:21

They have the right to claim asylum and if granted they can settle in the UK.

If they are so dangerous, why do you want other countries to step up instead of the UK?

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why should UK?

to make my position very clear - injured children should get help. We can provide some of it. Beyond medical treatment we should not allow Gazans to settle in the UK. At present it's almost certain they will settle here.

DuncinToffee · 03/08/2025 23:29

nearlylovemyusername · 03/08/2025 23:26

why should UK?

to make my position very clear - injured children should get help. We can provide some of it. Beyond medical treatment we should not allow Gazans to settle in the UK. At present it's almost certain they will settle here.

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Because the UK is not heartless and is offering humanitarian aid to children affected by war and famine,

Why shouldn't the UK do that?

There is no evidence that they will settle here. We don't even know how many children will be treated here.

It's fearmongering

Slightyamusedandsilly · 03/08/2025 23:30

Comedycook · 03/08/2025 12:51

Nigeria isn't undergoing a famine

Nor is Gaza

Are you for real?

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 03/08/2025 23:31

Sweetheart1990 · 03/08/2025 13:05

😂 I know that Palestine definitely would not be flying us over there to treat us.

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You don't know anything.

And seem to have forgotten (or never paid attention enough in the first place to realise) that Israel has been deliberately targetting Palestinian medics for the past two years, killing, imprisoning and torturing them, so there aren't as many of them as there used to be. And demolishing/ trashing their hospital facilities and preventing basic medical supplies (things like saline, gloves, syringes, never mind any form of medication) from being brought in to Gaza.
There would be very little point in taking any injured children from the UK there for treatment, in the hypothetical and extremely unlikely situation outlined by a PP (of Scotland suddenly launching a genocidal attack on England).

PS: for those who want to share horror stories of what's gone on - see this report from two years ago:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/01/birth-and-death-intertwined-gaza-strip

The situation has got much worse since then - see this from the UN in 2024:
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/statement-by-unicef-05nov24/

And this from Save the children:
https://www.savethechildren.net/news/save-children-supports-thousands-palestinians-including-newborn-babies-medically-evacuated