300 children from Gaza to be brought to the UK for free specialist NHS care

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According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide).

Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

If they can be helped they should. I don't believe that 300 kids will make any difference to NHS at all.

What I categorically don't want to happen is for them to stay here after treatment. With their families. And open the door for more to come on family grounds.

I do not want radicalised Gazans with cultural values completely opposite to British ones to settle in the UK. Which they most certainly will.

Possibly.
However, I don’t think anyone who support Israel’s actions towards these children has any right to complain about the consequences of them

I’m glad someone else googled this fact. Also says as the top result that 25% of uk adults are in poverty and 1 in 3 children are. Every year we drop down the league tables for living standards.

Could argue that in comparison to a war torn environment that’s negligible. But I see why people are starting to lose empathy if they feel resource extraction is taking place. It’s a natural response irrespective of if someone else has it worse. Everyone’s feeling quite beaten down in the uk and empathy starts to dissipate when people feel downtrodden.

The use of “radicalised” is so interesting in your response. Can you explain that more? I’m glad that you say you think the children should be treated here.

Cultural values completely different to British ones?
Judging by this thread, those different values would include kindness, humanitarianism and Christian charity.

So Italy has also treated dozens of children. According to the link it appears that the number of children being treated is not confirmed. It's privately funded.

Do you not agree with private medical care in this country?

I dont get your sentiment here.

Many others are helping. We are doing a tiny bit.

You know what, my daughter has, and every single one of her English friends quietly slunk away and deliberately lost touch. I don’t believe for one second that the ‘be kind’ people really back up this rhetoric when it’s not the cause de jour.

Please may we swap you for some gazan children?

I am not lacking in compassion. Civilians, especially children, should have been evacuated from Gaza to a safe country as soon as the war started. Egypt is just a few miles away. This is the norm in war.

No one seems to have bothered to question why this didn’t happen,

Then there wouldn’t be so many children with injuries inflicted in a war where their own government provides absolutely no protection, hijacks aid so they starve, uses them as human sacrifices and also even publicly declare that they need to do this for their ‘cause’.

Many, if not all, Gazans are radicalised into Hamas’ extremist ideology from birth.

It’s impossible for them not to be, they’ve been under Hamas control for 20 years. Hamas execute dissenters publicly.

Prior to that Palestinians were under the control of the slightly less extremist PLO and Fatah, all terrorist groups with a wish to annihilate Israel and kill Jews.

Hamas are a proxy of Iran and the followers of Iran’s leader chant ‘Death to the UK’ as well as death to America and Israel.

The decision to take in radicalised family groups like this who are 99.9% likely to stay in the UK, which will include adults as parents/carers and teen or young adult siblings, (the child themselves could be a teen up to age 19 - Hamas uses child soldiers), is absolutely counter to the security of UK citizens, especially Jewish people IMO,

We already have alleged Hamas members in the UK.

How fucking dumb can this government be?

They’re also going to recognise a terrorist State of Gaza!

There are plenty of Arab states who can offer medical care.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/09/zaher-birawi-hamas-operative-greta-thunbergs-gaza-flotilla/

So your objection is that these are Palestinian children?

@ConscientiousObserver

My thoughts exactly, expressed very well.

No one seems to have bothered to question why this didn’t happen,

This was questioned at that time. Egypt didn't want them, they are too dangerous and impossible to distinguish from Hamas.

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This is an excellent example of what radicalised looks like.

Your thoughts are that these children are radicalised and therefor don't deserve treatment?

What stands out from that is the fact that 50,000 children have been killed or injured in Gaza. 50,000! And we're taking 300. My main question is - why so few?

Ooh. Ooh. I see what you did there.

You said something most people will agree on, and then said something totally mental to push your view that Palestinian children are different to other children.

It's a tactic much used by conspiracy theorists and scumbag, internet scammers like Andrew Tate.

Shame on you!

Up to 300, so it could well be less.

How obtuse can you be?

Read my post again.

Do you have issues with reading comprehension? Please see my post at 22:35

It all sounds very noble - there’s just the issue that the Palestinian Authority’s new educational curriculum used in Gaza (including many UNRWA managed schools) includes language portraying the Jewish people as deceitful, immoral manipulators, glorification of Jihad and past terrorist attacks (including Oct 7). Maths problems and reading exercises include reference to martyrdom and violent assaults against Jews.

Of course it’s only right to want to help children but if these families are allowed to stay, we may well be importing a terrible problem right into the country.

That's exactly how it comes across

It’s well known that Hamas have always used children in their attacks. It’s absolutely grim. Some of the UN videos I’ve seen filmed in Gazan schools interviewing primary school pupils, their ‘Jew’ hatred is eye raising, the UN were overwhelmed in how much de radicalisation they needed to do to make the proposed two State system work.

I was only pointing out what the Guardian has reported - take it up with them;

UK to evacuate ill and injured children from Gaza to receive NHS care.

Government to announce taxpayer-funded initiative after three children were brought to UK under private scheme.

So what are you saying then?

Many, if not all, Gazans are radicalised into Hamas’ extremist ideology from birth.

The decision to take in radicalised family groups like this who are 99.9% likely to stay in the UK, which will include adults as parents/carers and teen or young adult siblings, (the child themselves could be a teen up to age 19 - Hamas uses child soldiers), is absolutely counter to the security of UK citizens, especially Jewish people IMO,