300 children from Gaza to be brought to the UK for free specialist NHS care

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According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide).

Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

Don’t be silly. The UK didn’t cause anything. Hamas did it all by itself. I’m guessing 300 children accompanied by parents will land here and will still be here in 5 years time, having claimed asylum. Why would they want to return to a regime controlled community who are determined to continue with this war regardless of what it has done to their people?

If your DC needed the kind of emergency care these children would need they wouldn’t wait either. And we aren’t paying for it, so no money is being diverted from bringing down waiting lists further by this initiative.

Of course it isn't one country I've lived and worked in a country in the ME. The rich countries all have plenty of massive hospitals and specialities.

The situation in gaza is grim i agree. I dont think sending people on an 8hr flight will be of benefit when there are plenty of facilities closer.

Do you also think we shouldn’t have helped Mala?

Bingo.

Understand your sentiment, however I think you are confusing the party with the people. I don't like Nigel Farage, can't stand the man, I wouldn't vote for Reform but I have empathy for many of the people who do vote for them. I'm not working class in the slightest, but I have been actively trying to understand working class voices and voters since Brexit.

For goodness sakes. We’re a National Health Service, not a World Health Service. I’m sorry that these kids are in need of help but our ailing NHS can’t deal with the backlogs of operations/appointments for British people. I highly doubt that the NHS will receive any financial funding for this treatment and, yet again, more British people have to wait.

You can’t separate it out. If you believe what Farage says you are either also racist and sexist (and would be a grifter if given the opportunity) or are so lacking in critical thinking that you’ll go along with utter nonsense and need the same sort of push back as the man himself.

It’s not being paid for by the NHS.
Relax.

Maybe because we aren't supplying weapons to bomb our own children.

This is interesting. My husband and I were talking about Malala and her father. I think she was so widely welcomed because she was one person, AND her father was an open modern forward looking teacher who endorsed the education of women. If he hadn't been, the support wouldn't have been as great. I don't think it is wrong to want migrants who share the same values as us.

You don’t be silly and hiding behind ‘Hamas started it’ or it’s all ‘Hamas fault’ is clearly not being bought by anybody. See the worldwide protests and public pressure everywhere. Israel is an occupying apartheid state which is now systematically starving an entire civilian population specifically targeting children.

Said circumstances were born from Brits meddling like many other plunders and blunders.

As far as I'm aware UAE, Turkey and Jordan have been taking injured children and adults,long before the UK, particularly UAE.

Also, they aren't coming over for grommets. A lot of these children are likely to die without medical aid,and whilst I do understand that it has a knock-on affect on other services, I will not begrudge this (as a parent of a child on a tonsillectomy waiting list for severe sleep apnea).

Children don't vote

More children from Gaza to be brought to UK for urgent medical treatment | Politics News | Sky News :

"children will be treated by specialists in the NHS"

"A parent or guardian will accompany each child, as well as siblings if necessary"

"It is understood this will happen "in parallel" with an initiative by Project Pure Hope, a group set up to bring sick and injured Gazan children to the UK privately for treatment."

So no humanitarian assistance for fear that people will vote reform? Oh and in four years time both your children will be able to vote.

Yes, NHS specialists. Pretty much all of them are. That doesn’t mean we are paying for it or that it increases waiting lists. They could easily be using the days they already do private work in the NHS hospitals.

what does this have to do with my post?

So because @Livelovebehappy had the money to pay for her child's medical procedure, that would give you the right to say 'Give me your money, I want to use it to pay for a procedure on somebody else I like better'? Or a doctor who offers their time and expertise for free to operate on a three year old with a leg blown off 'Stop right there, if you're going to work for free, you can damn well operate on Aunty Mildred's bunions because she's lived here all her life and to hell with that toddler?

I think that is deeply unfair, biased and blinkered. How do you reconcile that many of Reform's voters are former long-time Labour voters and members? Bear in mind I have never voted Reform or Labour in my life, so this isn't a discussion about my personal beliefs. I'm discussing it philosophically.

Because you said that most Gazans support Hamas and implied that meant these children don't deserve help.
Apologies if I have mixed you up with one of the really unpleasant people on this thread

Gosh, the absolute GALL of these emaciated, starving and injured children thinking that they have a right to get medical treatment from a country that’s been selling bombs to their oppressors. Can’t they just die quietly?

Read this again -

in the NHS. Not just NHS specialist, but in the NHS.

Private treatments happen in parallel.

Sorry, what? What has Aunt Mildred's bunions have to do with this?

This scheme will have patients from gaza treated by NHS doctors in NHS facilities in 'partnership' with a charity Project Hope.

We just need more information really as to what Project hope will be covering cost wise in this initiative and how NHS doctors will find the time as current waits are 15weeks.

It most definitely is not crap! This country is, to all intents and purposes, bankrupt! There is no money. We are borrowing at a very alarming rate.

Having said that, I too feel only compassion for the people caught up in the Gaza atrocities, particularly the children, and think it right that we reach out and try to help them.