300 children from Gaza to be brought to the UK for free specialist NHS care

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According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide).

Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

I think the point being made is that obviously those children have families and will need somewhere to live, money etc. when other Arab countries are helping out they are most likely treating the children and nothing more, we on the other hand will take them and their families in and end up paying the bill for them to permanently love here

When will they and their families leave?

I bet they don't

The nhs care is handed out to those whose need is the greatest, I am not denying uk children have pain but not to the extent that these children in Gaza need help, lost limbs, wounds caused by bombing, starvation to name a few. You think children in the uk have the same problems? We are a country that prides ourself on our compassion, if we lose that we lose what it means to be British, what ever Farage & Trump would have you believe.

That's a lot of money at 49 a week for the amount we have and that doesn't take into account bed and board, phones etc that is spending money. And as you say it isn't a lot to live on which drives up crime in our country as a lot end up drug dealing, pick pocketing etc

No we have not assisted in genocide that is absolute nonsense.

Agree with this.

I think it's outrageous that UK gave away land that didn't belong to them in the first place.

Yes so maybe we should let them work, it's not like they gave a choice. And they aren't the ones drug dealing and driving up crime either, but of course blame them because you don't understand. £49 a week is a lot of money, really? Why don't you try to live off it then. Plus, yes they get phones (but it's not the newest iPhone, it often for children who need to get in contact with parents when they go to school etc) and they only get such stuff once their asylum claim has been accepted not before them.

No the majority of these economic illegal migrants are not registered and qualified nurses that is absolute rubbish

The charities funding this also fund the adult accompanying the child. Both here and in the other countries they go to.

Why should we let them work? They have no right to come here. People have had enough of it.

They are providing much more care than this; these kids have come to where the relevant specialists are.

They will obviously claim asylum and get it.

I hope they do. They've obviously have a good case for seeking asylum.

Many of them are, do you know what an economic migrant is? Many of them are qualified nurses who want better pay and a better life. Many of them are care workers and work in nurseries and construction (that's why many carers homes and groups advocating for them, told the government that there will be dire consequences of changing the visa requirements for care workers as they said that's the majority of their workforce. Areas like construction and care are majority immigrants because British people aren't going to work in such low-paid work, without them we'd have massive labour shortages.

Good. I wish we were taking more. 300 is a drop in the ocean. If any of these children need foster families while they are here I am willing to have them come and live with me.

You are jealous of the starving injured half dead kids in war torn Gaza?

New low.
Well done!

It's very dangerous to be revisionist on these historical events, that is why we are in so many politicosocial quagmires atm. The Ottoman Empire had floundered even before the Great War, it was not clear cut.

They do have a right actually. In international human rights law and immigration law, it's clear that when a person has a valid asylum claim they have a right to go wherever they want as long as its a safe country. It's their right to choose where the take refuge as refugees. Because they are in war zones, famine, civil war, impacts of climate change (mainly caused by developed countries emissions), FGM, terrorism.

You can dress it up under false concern for whatever you wish op, we all know why you have this problem. Just come out and say it.
Unless you have the same energy and speak out against the daily abuse of the NHS which is the real problem contributing to waiting times. No? Thought not.

I don't think they'll need foster families. A parent/s and siblings are coming too and they'll no doubt be housed and very well looked after post treatment and ongoing.

Good. The Isrealis have bombed their hospitals. These poor children need help.

Good.

I said 49 is a lot of money when it's for thousands of people???

I praise you for your courage…it is important that everyone feels able to talk about issues without the offensive replies some people have made. Someone objects to excessive immigration… some people respond by calling them racist…so people get into their groups and antagonise each other rather than debate. I wanted to stay in the eu and this reluctance to engage with either side’s opinion is what to a large extent imo caused the brexit voting result. You make a valid point about the pressure on the nhs.

Are we meant to be outraged at the idea of the UK helping these children? I can get outraged about a lot of what the government spends money on but helping kids whose homes have been bombed to the ground is not one of them.