300 children from Gaza to be brought to the UK for free specialist NHS care

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According to the Sunday Times. That's nearly as many beds as there are in Great Ormond Street, where the average waiting time for paediatric surgery is 15 weeks (which is fairly typical nationwide).

Why is it mysteriously possible for government to deliver these showy, headline-grabbing measures (I know we already knew it could happen from COVID policy) but not to just make systems work well in an ordinary way?

Don't worry about me Hun 😘

This, we have been putting up with this genocide for more than a year now to keep everyone happy. Doing something for kids appears to be the the most politically correct and cheapest option to show support without someone complaining about antisemitism.

Don't forget that the 'Labour' government also drastically reduced spending on foreign aid.

I tell you what's abhorrent..it is the idea if grown adults objecting to the provision of essential medical care for children who have been traumatised by war, simply because they happen to have been born in the wrong country.

Seriously, what kind of person has so little heart? Shame on you.

So what are you doing about it OP? When's the protest?

Huh?

Most of the Tory MPs in government since 2010 were not immigrants. Some were, but most were from the UK. They're the people responsible for the state the UK is in. Back in 2010 the NHS was rated top health service in the world. But they wrecked it. Just as they wrecked the whole country.

You can't seriously pin repeated Tory failure to do the job they were paid for, on some immigrants.

You can't just do whatever you want and are capable of to win a war, that's why the concept of war crimes exists.

But 0.4% of the 76,000 kids they treat each year. I know you claim this is about increasing NHS funding and not about the kids from Gaza that the article is so obviously actually about, but 0.4% is going to make sod all difference. The government, with whom you are apparently so cross, is already increasing NHS funding by ~3% a year in real terms.

And most of this decline is due to a combination of the long-term effects of the banking crisis; years of austerity; the pandemic; the cost-of-living crisis; and, with regard to the High Street, the advent of the Internet and online shopping.

Yes they aren't all doctors or engineers, many of them are healthcare professionals, their porters and care workers and nurses and construction workers - areas where we have massive labour shortages. Plus so what if they do have barber shops, asylum seekers cannot claim benefits until their claim is accepted. They get £49 a week if you want to try and survive on that go for it. Also we need more children, the birth rate is very low abd we need more children - who else will pay our pensions and work. So maybe it's a good thing they have more children because we need them. Also many of them do speak English as a second language, they also may speak their mother tongue (just because you over hear them on the phone speaking a different language doesn't mean they don't speak English), in fact many are multilingual unlike the majority of British people who only speak English.

I notice Starmer hasn't mentioned the 15,000 autistic children detained in ATU units across the UK. They have been locked up in solitary confinement in what are essentially padded cells with nothing more than a bowl and a mattress for over 10 years, left to be tortured, beaten, starved and neglected by staff. Several have died due to negligence and abuse.

Parents have been threatened with arrest and prosecution for trying to expose the horrors taking place in these inhuman detention centers.

Yet the government (and Jeremy Cnut MP, who was supposed to have been leading the public enquiry) have quietly moved on to worrying about other people's vulnerable children and adults halfway across the f*cking globe.

Why do we need to offer our expertise and time when there are excellent paediatricians across the ME? And There's enough money sloshing around in Omar, SAE, Qatar and Dubai to give refugee status, asylum and medical care to every single one of their Muslim brothers and sisters... yet they don't offer to help them. Curiouser and curiouser.

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I would be more happy with these children getting treatment here if it was paid for and done in private facilities, and then they and their family member were billeted with British families like the Ukrainians. I object to British money being spend on health and housing for any asylum seekers. We should be more like Australia, the NGOs should be paying, not us.

If you keep adding to the population with people who are only a drain on the systems then what do you expect to happen? If you don't have a skill and money to support yourself, you shouldn't be coming...it's that simple

Don’t worry we aren’t funding it, it’s funded by a charity. They have left other children and will be resettled in Egypt or another country. Other countries have also taken children in for treatment not just the uk. The doctors in Gaza are trying their best to save people’s lives but just don’t have the resources to do the operations that these children need.

? People have said they're in that situation upthread!

Almost like the majority of British people anyways and people can both provide and take from the state. People are students so they get student loans and then they give back, some people get PIP (not means tested) and also work, some people get maternity benefits and still contribute. And as I mentioned asylum seekers cannot claim benefits till their claims are accepted as valid.

So they just survive on fresh air so they? No they get money! Just because it's not 'claimed benefits' they are still having a lot of money spent on them

Wow, where is people’s compassion? What has happened to humanity? What a country we have become, thanks to the right wing press. Shame on you.

People want to come to this country because it is great, looks after it's people, everyone gets a fair shot and that is amazing....the problem is now that all those want to come for an easy ride and there's not enough being paid into the system for it to work, so everything that we've been great at declines

We are bringing 300 children here for medical treatment. Arab countries have been taking in sick and injured children from Gaza for some time now.

How come you missed it?

They get £49 a week. Why don't you try and survive on that? Like I said they get deported if their claim is rejected and if not then yes they get taken care of. They come from war zones, or places were they're forced to undergo FGM, and where they are experiencing famine and starvation, or civil war. Because you wouldn't try and escape that would you. No you would stay and 'fix your country' (whatever that means, when it's often the fault of developed countries that cause economic neo-colonialism and the conflicts). Plus if you really want this to stop you'd be wanting developed countries to invest in climate change because even though developed countries emitt more carbon it will be the developing nations who experience flooding and end up with no water so they will have to migrate up north. So if you want less immigration I'd be advocating for investment in net zero.