To think most men wouldn’t survive a year living the life of an average woman?

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The daily grind of sexism, safety worries, juggling expectations, emotional labour… Most men have no idea. AIBU to think they’d crumble under the load if they had to swap lives with us for a year?

Ah there it is. You're a reform voter! Of course you are 🙄

You do realise that women still worked in the 1950s? That many were also proud to be housewives? I suggest you do some wider historical reading on the decade at your local library.

You’re outsourcing your financial wellbeing to your husband.

I still can’t believe you’re in your 30’s, this is incredible. 😂

Yep- they are the only ones speaking up for the family unit instead of ramming institutions like nurseries down everyone’s throats. Bravo!!! 👏🏻

I’ve just twigged. You’re not married to a 30 year old man called Nigel.

You’re thanking Nigel Farage for… something. 🤷🏻‍♀️

The wonderful plot thickens!

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Nurseries are good for children! They learn to socialise with other children their age and become confident and independent children ready for school.

The clingers that cry and need to be peeled off mummys dress for school at age 4 are the ones that never had those experiences and were just with their mum's all the time.

It's not good for anyone to just stay at home all day while society moves on without them. Your posts remind me of the old women claiming they run the world from the kitchen table, whilst everyone else is out actually making the world run without them.

Nurseries are far from beneficial for under 2s. Check out the recent stats and high profile news cases on murders, abuse, scalding and far higher levels of reported incidences. Mothers need to start thinking for themselves- many are way too trusting with who actually matters most in their lives.

You’ve been here before, but without the Nigel thanking, and with slightly more religious elements.

I thought it earlier with domestic haven, but the murders in nurseries has sealed it.

You had this debate a few days ago, and have changed your name.

I totally agree with you. It feels like people are focusing so much on what’s ‘hard’ for women these days that they forget the incredible resilience and strength we’ve inherited. I mean, look at history—women have always had to handle so much, and we’ve done it without the constant complaining that seems to be going around now. The whole "martyrdom" mentality is draining, and honestly, it doesn’t help anyone. Life can be tough for both men and women, but we don’t need to act like everything is a burden. Sometimes, it’s about taking a step back, not overcomplicating things, and just getting on with it.

I don’t understand why comparisons and "what ifs" between men and women still persist in 2025. Both have a rich history behind them, and neither is weak. Each possesses unique strengths, abilities, and skills. I’m optimistic about the advancements in AI and hope it evolves enough to resolve these discussions once and for all.

Hmm unsure what you mean, but plenty of posters read the papers! And don’t use nurseries or schools.

Good bot

Woman don't want one person to decide for them.

If I manage to be equal with any man in the workplace, it's not for letting someone like you tell me what I should or should not do 😂

You don't care about "equality", you want women to fit your views. Not gonna happen.

You are deeply misogynistic, and should have a deep think about that. The ‘robots’ in this current society are the ones pursuing money, career and power at any cost. Wise up!

the dated views is pretending one person or one category can decide for the rest of us.

Its' more likely to be a twisted view like the poster above, who admitted being unable to do anything or show any initiative on maternity leave, but who needs to have a boss to tell them what to do to feel superior.

it's not going backward to have A CHOICE. It's backwards to try to take that choice away by pretending women are too stupid, too weak to decide for themselves - which is exactly what you are trying to do.
We don't need strong leaders to tell us what is the correct way to leave our life, thanks.

the poster above, who admitted being unable to do anything or show any initiative on maternity leave, but who needs to have a boss to tell them what to do to feel superior.

You're deeply lacking in your comprehension skills dear. As I told you, I spent my maternity leave out with the horses and climbing mountains with my baby in the sling because I want her to see the big wide world and not be stuck at home all day. It's a crying shame to waste life being a diligent housewife whatever that means, cleaning a house and baking or whatever else takes 18 hours a day apparently.

I don't need a boss to tell me what to do, I am a scientist. I work in research. I need to actually research things and do science and use my brain to not be bored. Cleaning a kitchen is fucking boring. My work changes the world through innovation. I don't sit at my kitchen table imagining I'm running the world, I'm actually out there doing it. I didn't gain all this knowledge and skills to just not use them and clean a kitchen someone else paid for while organising his money for him and being deluded enough to call it freedom!

You're very angry for someone who claims not to be offended dear.

Me neither.

This is probably because you and I are "captured women" which is a term I learned on MN yesterday! 😂

It's the patriarchy, see? The kind feminist (way more evolved than I will ever be) explained it.

If we're not angry, we're thick.

Go on then, entertain me some more - on what planet was my intentionally flippant remark ‘misogynistic’? 😂😂😂

You do understand that ‘Good bot’ doesn’t mean the same as ‘I disagree with you’, right?! It was a reference to how your posting ‘style’ is coming off in places.

who's angry? You make me laugh
I did it for a while while on maternity leave and it's bloody boring and unfulfilling. I have an adventurous personality I hate being cooped up inside

You are the one who keep banging on about cleaning your kitchen. The rest of us manage to have a life.

Is your world so black and white? Either you are at work, or you are cleaning? You can't find anything fulfilling to do anywhere? Odd.

Either way, I didn't gain all this knowledge and skills to just not use them great, but ... who said you couldn't? That's the point, we are telling you that you have the CHOICE. Use that choice.

What we don't agree is that you have some say on how other people chose to spend their time. It has nothing to do with you.

I don't sit at my kitchen table imagining I'm running the world, I'm actually out there doing it.
and yet.. here you are on MN with some home makers. Funny isn't it 😂

Freedom from what? The First World War (which I’m assuming you mean since you mention the trenches) was about nations competing for power, not freedom. Men would have done more to demonstrate their intelligence by not starting it in the first place.

I think some people have very difficult lives and I wonder how I would manage if I were in their position. You see threads on here where people are dealing with extremely challenging disabilities or MH issues or caring responsibilities.

However, for people without these additional challenges I don’t get how housework and raising a few kids is that challenging. It can be a bit full on at times but some people make out like it’s overwhelming. Talking about the emotional load and including things like making appointments and buying presents is a bit wet. Some women seem to make problems when they dont exist. I’m in my 60s and it never crossed my mind that I should be worrying about things like buying Xmas presents for my husbands family.

I obviously know sexism etc is alive and well but it’s hardly a ‘daily grind’ for me. I think some people need to just crack on with things and stop fussing. (Obviously I’m saying that for people who DONT have additional challenges)

I think some people have very difficult lives and I wonder how I would manage if I were in their position. You see threads on here where people are dealing with extremely challenging disabilities or MH issues or caring responsibilities.

However, for people without these additional challenges I don’t get how housework and raising a few kids is that challenging. It can be a bit full on at times but some people make out like it’s overwhelming. Talking about the emotional load and including things like making appointments and buying presents is a bit wet. Some women seem to make problems when they dont exist. I’m in my 60s and it never crossed my mind that I should be worrying about things like buying Xmas presents for my husbands family.

I obviously know sexism etc is alive and well but it’s hardly a ‘daily grind’ for me. I think some people need to just crack on with things and stop fussing. (Obviously I’m saying that for people who DONT have additional challenges)

No, they aren’t mistakes anyone above 14 that is prioritising the task would make. They are just mistakes coming from lack of care factor and engagement. Like I said, I’m not claiming my way is right. Maybe his way would lead to more independent and capable kids in the end? I’m assuming after a while of the embarrassment of having the wrong gear/coming in the wrong uniform/not submitting their homework etc that they would learn to do it themselves. I was certainly more capable of doing all that stuff at their ages.

Careful, you'll give some of the regulars a fembolism if they read that. 🤣

Which men?