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Thread 11: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

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DisappointedReader · 29/07/2025 15:01

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...
2nd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found
3rd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video
4th Observer ‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...
Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn
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New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting. There are currently 10 items on The Observer website The real Salt Path | The Observer

To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for ten very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

No saltiness. Keep to the path.

Does stolen fudge taste better?

The real Salt Path | The Observer

The real Salt Path | The Observer

<p>The truth behind the blockbuster book and film</p>

https://observer.co.uk/collections/the-real-salt-path

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Words · 31/07/2025 17:00

Should have said that applies in civil and criminal cases. Don't know about family court.

RainyTuesdaysAndSunnyWednesdays · 31/07/2025 17:01

Googled "RD/IH hospital" and AI Overview gives Rapid Diagnostic/Investigation and Help.

Toomuchstufff · 31/07/2025 17:03

RD/IH could be initials of consultant / initials of typist / secretary - that would follow the pattern of other NHS letters I have received

Toomuchstufff · 31/07/2025 17:07

Words · 31/07/2025 17:00

Should have said that applies in civil and criminal cases. Don't know about family court.

It would be county court not family. You’re right that would indicate it would be your honour, and the barrister would know that too!

In magistrates it might be sir though but I would have thought debt enforcement like this would be county court?

AldoGordo · 31/07/2025 17:09

AldoGordo · 31/07/2025 16:55

I'll need to dig it out. Will post when found. I screen shot it eons ago. (Ps. It's a review of TSP book)

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@Catwith69lives here you go. Archive link and screen shot of the magazine page...it was published in the Spring 2020 edition.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220625235653/acnr.co.uk/book-review/the-salt-path/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/52rbmz2n

<a class="break-all" href="//[https://web.archive.org/web/20220625235653/acnr.co.uk/book-review/the-salt-path/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20220625235653/acnr.co.uk/book-review/the-salt-path/]

The web version was removed from the ACNR journal site not long after the story broke.

Thread 11: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?
Hyenana · 31/07/2025 17:11

Catwith69lives · 31/07/2025 16:54

RD corresponds to the neurologist at the Walton Centre and his qualifications correspond to those shown in the 2019 letter where he also works and the neurologist who made the film review in the neurologists newsletter. I assumed that the 2019 letter is from RD to IH.

The RD could also stand for Radiology Department for example.
It would be helpful to see another letter from that hospital with that layout to see if what is written in that place are doctor's initials or an abbreviation for a particular department or whatever. Until then this is a bit speculative.
Also the tone/content of the letter and of the review are extremely different, which makes me doubt they are from the same person.

Catwith69lives · 31/07/2025 17:15

AldoGordo · 31/07/2025 17:09

@Catwith69lives here you go. Archive link and screen shot of the magazine page...it was published in the Spring 2020 edition.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220625235653/acnr.co.uk/book-review/the-salt-path/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/52rbmz2n

<a class="break-all" href="//[https://web.archive.org/web/20220625235653/acnr.co.uk/book-review/the-salt-path/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20220625235653/acnr.co.uk/book-review/the-salt-path/]

The web version was removed from the ACNR journal site not long after the story broke.

Edited

Great. Many thanks.

Medlar · 31/07/2025 17:18

Does anyone else find Sally Walker's speech quite difficult to follow? I hadn't really thought about it till a French friend dropped by to borrow something when I had a podcast featuring her playing on a speaker. I think she has a problem with rhotacism (pronouncing /r/ as /w/) but also pronounces /l/ oddly.

That, combined with the way she takes little, gasping in-breaths as she speaks means I really have to concentrate hard.

(I don't mean this unpleasantly, obviously, I just hadn't realised until my friend said that in fact I don't find her easy to follow.)

AldoGordo · 31/07/2025 17:21

Hyenana · 31/07/2025 17:11

The RD could also stand for Radiology Department for example.
It would be helpful to see another letter from that hospital with that layout to see if what is written in that place are doctor's initials or an abbreviation for a particular department or whatever. Until then this is a bit speculative.
Also the tone/content of the letter and of the review are extremely different, which makes me doubt they are from the same person.

The letter was dictated (I think) and also very different writing contexts so I wouldn't think tone comparison would tell us much here.

DisappointedReader · 31/07/2025 17:23

I assumed that the 2019 letter is from RD to IH.

My own letters went out 'my initials/my secretary's initials' and that would be my assumption here @Catwith69lives . We can only assume however.

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Orangesandlemons77 · 31/07/2025 17:24

PullTheBricksDown · 31/07/2025 16:48

The letter mentions 'my previous meeting with him some years ago'. That suggests to me that this consultant saw TW (in 2013?) and that they offered the diagnosis then of 'an atypical form of CBD', but that they haven't seen him again in the meantime till now. There's a reference to him being 'under review' but it doesn't sound like it was them doing the reviewing. Bit light on medical appointments for someone who in theory has a terminal illness.

Oh really, I didn't notice that when reading the letter. Wonder why they didn't include that letter then

AldoGordo · 31/07/2025 17:25

DisappointedReader · 31/07/2025 17:23

I assumed that the 2019 letter is from RD to IH.

My own letters went out 'my initials/my secretary's initials' and that would be my assumption here @Catwith69lives . We can only assume however.

Edited

Did you not mean to tag @Catwith69lives?

ETA - see you've changed it already!

Orangesandlemons77 · 31/07/2025 17:25

Hyenana · 31/07/2025 16:57

The 'previous meeting' reference is in the 2019 letter, not the 2015 one.
The 2015 sounds very much like that doctor saw TW for the first time.

Yes that's what I thought, I see so it was the later letter, that makes sense. Thought I was going a bit doolally there!

DisappointedReader · 31/07/2025 17:30

I must say that Raynor Winn (et al!) provide a compelling...

From Rhys Davies' review of TSP. I assume that the 'et al!' refers to Tim Walker and suggests to me some familiarity.

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Orangesandlemons77 · 31/07/2025 17:31

Just re-reading the 2019 medical letter. Is it just me, or does it appear that some of it is not revealed? it seems to be cut off before the end

DisappointedReader · 31/07/2025 17:31

AldoGordo · 31/07/2025 17:25

Did you not mean to tag @Catwith69lives?

ETA - see you've changed it already!

Edited

Mistakes were made!

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Cornflowerz55 · 31/07/2025 17:36

User14March · 31/07/2025 16:59

The dead sheep also features in the previous Izzy Wyn-Thomas novel.

The dead ewe was my first eh???moment..so glaringly fabricated imo.

Hyenana · 31/07/2025 17:38

AldoGordo · 31/07/2025 17:21

The letter was dictated (I think) and also very different writing contexts so I wouldn't think tone comparison would tell us much here.

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In that case a doctor who is very sceptical of TW's CBD diagnosis because of the stability of the condition and therefore suspects it might be a genetic disorder in October 2019, would then go on to write a gushing review about the healing power of walking against CBD in Spring 2020, about a patient he strongly suspected not to have CBD just half a year earlier?

TurraeaFloribunda · 31/07/2025 17:38

Orangesandlemons77 · 31/07/2025 17:31

Just re-reading the 2019 medical letter. Is it just me, or does it appear that some of it is not revealed? it seems to be cut off before the end

There is a second page. It is on SalRay’s website. That is one thing she isn’t hiding!

Catwith69lives · 31/07/2025 17:40

The 2013 CBD diagnosis described in TSP is critical imo.

Either it occurred in 2013, as described in TSP or it occurred in 2015 after the walk was completed. If the former, then surely RW would have stated in her rebuttal letter - " I categorically deny the allegations in the Observer that I misrepresented Moth's CBD diagnosis and disease progression in TSP. The original diagnosis and neurologist's letter was mislaid due to the harrowing and disruptive events which occurred at that time as described in TSP. However, I have applied to the NHS to send me a copy of the letter, which I will upload onto my website, when I receive it."

However, she doesn't and in the 4 weeks since the Observer article was published, no such letter has been produced to back up the events described in TSP.

At this point, disappointed readers are bound to draw their own conclusions....

Toomuchstufff · 31/07/2025 17:41

Just rereading the 2015 letter which starts “he has little in the way of personal medical background”. If he had a two year terminal diagnosis in 2013 surely it would include that? As it also refers to negative tests in 2011.

Toomuchstufff · 31/07/2025 17:43

TurraeaFloribunda · 31/07/2025 17:38

There is a second page. It is on SalRay’s website. That is one thing she isn’t hiding!

Is it? I can see
2 pages (1 of 3 and 2 of 3) dated 2015
1 page 2019 (ends without sign off)
1 page 2025

DisappointedReader · 31/07/2025 17:47

Catwith69lives · 31/07/2025 17:40

The 2013 CBD diagnosis described in TSP is critical imo.

Either it occurred in 2013, as described in TSP or it occurred in 2015 after the walk was completed. If the former, then surely RW would have stated in her rebuttal letter - " I categorically deny the allegations in the Observer that I misrepresented Moth's CBD diagnosis and disease progression in TSP. The original diagnosis and neurologist's letter was mislaid due to the harrowing and disruptive events which occurred at that time as described in TSP. However, I have applied to the NHS to send me a copy of the letter, which I will upload onto my website, when I receive it."

However, she doesn't and in the 4 weeks since the Observer article was published, no such letter has been produced to back up the events described in TSP.

At this point, disappointed readers are bound to draw their own conclusions....

You called?

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Hyenana · 31/07/2025 17:54

DisappointedReader · 31/07/2025 17:30

I must say that Raynor Winn (et al!) provide a compelling...

From Rhys Davies' review of TSP. I assume that the 'et al!' refers to Tim Walker and suggests to me some familiarity.

I assumed he meant that there are other compelling cases for the benefits of physical therapy.

ShrinkWrappedInSeattle · 31/07/2025 18:00

Medlar · 31/07/2025 17:18

Does anyone else find Sally Walker's speech quite difficult to follow? I hadn't really thought about it till a French friend dropped by to borrow something when I had a podcast featuring her playing on a speaker. I think she has a problem with rhotacism (pronouncing /r/ as /w/) but also pronounces /l/ oddly.

That, combined with the way she takes little, gasping in-breaths as she speaks means I really have to concentrate hard.

(I don't mean this unpleasantly, obviously, I just hadn't realised until my friend said that in fact I don't find her easy to follow.)

Yes - there are many comments about this in reviews of the LL audiobook.

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