Thread 11: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film?

[DisappointedReader]

The Observer The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ...
2nd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-whats-in-the-book-and-what-the-observer-has-found
3rd Observer https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-salt-path-the-truth-behind-the-blockbuster-book-video
4th Observer ‘I felt I was being gaslit’ – the landlord who helped Ray...
Raynor Winn/Sally Walker's statement Raynor Winn
Thread One www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5368194-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?
Thread 2 Thread 2. To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film? | Mumsnet
Thread 3 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5369425-thread-3-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?
Thread 4 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5370609-thread-4-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?
Thread 5 Thread 5: To feel disappointed after reading this in The Observer about the author and her husband from The Salt Path book and film? | Mumsnet
Thread 6 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5372494-thread-6-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-
husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?
Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5373425-thread-7-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?
Thread 8 www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5375023-thread-8-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?
Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5376712-thread-9-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?
Thread 10 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5378984-thread-10-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?

New posters welcome. It would be helpful to read at least the four Observer items above before posting. There are currently 10 items on The Observer website The real Salt Path | The Observer

To all - Please be extremely cautious when it comes to naming or implicating people and addresses not in the public eye or with no direct connection to the story, and around the understandable health speculations, especially where details are unclear or still emerging. Please do not engage with visitors who seem to have their own agenda and seek to derail. Avoid @'ing and quoting them as - from experience - this will only encourage them back to the threads. We have done amazingly well together for ten very interesting, very serious and very silly threads so far. I can't be here as much as I'd like so all help with keeping our discussion walking along in a healthy and civil fashion is very welcome.

No saltiness. Keep to the path.

Does stolen fudge taste better?

I agree.

From my memory of the film, barely anything happens after they get to Polly’s and Ray does the sheep-shearing. Polly is presented very unpleasantly, JI does some very slow and laboured plastering in obvious agony (while Polly presumably is cackling somewhere out of shot like a cartoon villain) and then there’s this emotional scene where Ray tells Moth no one had ever told her they’d loved her before he had, which I found very moving. And then that’s pretty much it.

I still think it’s a good film in its right though. I’d go and see it again personally! Sorry if I’m straying too far off the path with my film-cheerleading though 😂

Depending on what happens with this whole saga, I wonder if there’s a way for Raymoth to stop receiving revenue from the film and for the film to be disassociated from the book if possible?

This article says August 13th, so a Tuesday not a Thursday.
But if I start counting from the 13th of August as day 1, then the 33rd day is the 14th of September (I think you have to include August 13th as day 1, that's different than calculating the difference between two dates)
https://www.womanandhome.com/health-wellbeing/raynor-winn-interview-the-salt-path/

That's not surprising. I realised too late to correct Inconsistencies and after all that I'm now wondering if it's too early for a snifter of cider.

I still think it’s a good film in its right though.

I thought it was incredibly boring.

I'd been really looking forward to it, and was excited for my evening out at the cinema. But I looked at my watch soooo many times.

I found their interactions with everyone they met to be incredibly superficial and, more than once, utterly cringeworthy.

Grant and his ladies for instance. Urgh.

And as soon as I saw them take advantage of others on screen, it really brought home to me what they were like, and what Walker had been describing in the book.

When they gave the young woman a fiver, I laughed. It was so unlike them. But it did counteract them using their own tea bags etc.

Someone must have thought a scene where they do something for someone else had to be included otherwise they risked looking like the out and out grifters they are.

If you watch the film/buy the book new (or in some cases 2nd hand) - the publishers and the Winns will get revenue.

Instagram interview with RW about the release of TSP (Der Salzpfad) in Germany. She appears relaxed and quite animated in the clip. Also says that the weekly payments they received during the walk dropped from £38 to £25 and they lived off 11p packets of super quick noodles.

Instagram

I went to see the film before all this happened. And finally got round to buying Landlines not that long before too.

Pfft.

Did you see the video where Marina Hyde looks caught out - when Richard Osman explains it to her in their podcast. After the revelations!

What kind of payment were they getting? How did they qualify for anything if they weren't actively seeking work?

I’d be very surprised. RW is unarguably the author of the book (at least, no one seems to have seriously suggested it was really Moth dictating frenzied nature metaphors and hilarious Simon Armitage running gags to her?), regardless of its truthfulness, so will have had an advance and continue to get royalties from sales, and will have been paid for the film rights. (No idea whether she would get continued income if the film gets further distribution deals in other territories, though).

And bluntly, no film producer would have bought an unknown book about two suddenly homeless people, one of them ill, going for a long walk. The production company bought it in part because of its success. Raynor and Moth are the ‘brand’. So hard to dissociate it. But, because of the way both film and book have been marketed, equally hard to bid now for further distribution deals in other territories with a controversy ongoing about whether much or any of it really happened as presented.

Or borrow it from a library.

The author still gets something for every library borrow. Not much, but it can mount up if a book's borrowed a lot.

Do we have a Pennines correspondent?

To confirm/deny it’s FULL of dead sheep & rabbits? Dead ewes to be precise?

Tax credits apparently - although in TSP the weekly payments are £48.

He’s moving and walking extremely well!!

Isn’t their dog disabled so can’t do long walks? It looks great here & rather lovely,

I do think he’s unwell but he spoke to JI about his dragging leg, arms/hand/finger disabilities & unbearable ‘agony’ we can’t know his lived experience but walking cured this? I didn’t know about the agony part. Sounds like a condition that flares?

I think we should start referring to the Walkers as the ‘Wandel-Duo’. I love Dutch.

I would also love to see some post Observer story responses from readers in other territories where it sold well — would readers there, presumably far less familiar with Raymoth being all over the media promoting the books and film, popping up as charity trustees, being wept over by one of the actors portraying the pm etc feel a lot less betrayed by untruths? Or it’s not a story worth printing in other territories because no one is that bothered by the memoir being truthful or not?

I'm no medical expert, but everything I've read about CBD is that it doesn't "flare up". It's a slow one way journey. That's what I don't understand. 20 years after symptoms first noticed, Moth's condition doesn't seem to fit the diagnosis of CBD. It's so atypical that I would have thought that by now neurologists would say, whatever you've got it's definitely not CBD.

Thanks. Somewhere I read Ray has shifted to now say CBS not CBD (?)

Yes, in her Statement she's fudged the issue. She says it used to be called CBD but is now more commonly known as CBS/CBD and mentiones CBS are the symptoms.

But it still doesn't tally with the letters she stuck up there to "prove" what she has written.

As instructed by our dear disappointed leader: link to Thread 12, but please fill up this one first.

Please remember - Don't Quote The Timeline or the Thread Gallery posts!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/amibeingunreasonable/5384574-thread-12-to-feel-disappointed-after-reading-this-in-the-observer-about-the-author-and-her-husband-from-the-salt-path-book-and-film?reply=146125247

Funny thing is, 'Wandel' in German means change, it is part of the word 'Verwandlung' as in magical transformation.
Also a good description of the Walkers.

well done @FurryHappyKittens

Quoting to add this to final page of thread 11, as instructed by our brilliant seafaring pirate of disappointment @DisappointedReader ...onwards to thread 12!