To wonder why there isn’t more uproar about Sudan?

[AngeloMysterioso]

Sudan- where the actual worst humanitarian crisis in the world is happening right now. War, starvation, displacement of millions of people, suffering on a scale like nowhere else in the world. And yet it’s being virtually ignored. There have been maybe half a dozen threads about Sudan on mumsnet in the last year or so, compared with dozens discussing Israel/Gaza. On social media, for every one post I see mentioning Sudan, I have probably seen 20 or more about Gaza. Save The Children, for example, has posted seventeen times about Gaza in the past month and only once about Sudan.

Why? Why is Sudan being ignored while such a glaring light is being shone on Gaza? Is it because there are no Jewish people to blame for the Sudanese conflict? Or because the people suffering are black?

So when you said ‘to be fair I don’t think you get to dictate where people put their money’, you were actually trying to dictate where I put my money?

No thanks, you do you.

You need to stop reading too much into comments and using your narrative. No I listed charities which I don’t donate to but I wouldn’t say ah they’re less deserving like you.

You said you make lots of money and you’re happy to donate to other countries. Great. I make a little money and I use it for charities close to my heart. Also great.

this.

the west isn’t arming any of these countries and provided evacuation flights to Sudan

Thank goodness the discussion here hasn't been shut down because of erroneous calls regarding anti-semitism and any criticism/critique regarding Gaza which is why I exited this thread last night.

There are plenty of threads discussing Gaza and the humanitarian crisis there but we shouldn't forget the humanitarian crisis in Sudan or Yemen either.

The OP made a mistake by equating the lack of attention (in the UK) towards Sudan as being 'racist' and for quite silly reasons and, notably, the OP hasn't been back.

The news in the UK a couple of years ago did highlight what was happening in the Darfur region of Sudan and then the events from the Oct 7th Massacre and Pogrom in Israel has evolved into something unimaginable by any standards.

And from a 'racist' perspective the atrocities are being committed by 'white' people against 'brown' people and most 'white' people don't support it and want it to stop now. That's a difficult thing to even write.

If only all those Gods that so many people believe in could just come down and wave their magic wands.......

It really doesn’t matter how the differences are shuffled. Everyone knows full well that mobs of protestors and campaigners will always shout against Israel to the exclusion of all else, whatever the circumstances there or elsewhere.

Because Israel is the Jewish state. That’s all of the explanation.

Please don’t use the Sudan to further your pro-Israel agenda.

Don’t be silly.

I was silently reading along but just saw this and thought of this thread

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/aug/07/genocide-sudan-zamzam-camp-timeline?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social_img&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1754547986

What a comment. 'Pick your atrocity'. It's not a game, people shouldn't 'be interested' in one mass humanitarian crisis over another. Obvs one can only support so many, though, as an individual..

Our natural sphere? So it's wrong for us to worry about those who are far away? And will only lead to war?

It certainly can...but it's not that simple.

Well, yeah, it's Mumsnet, I'm not going to bash out a rehash on my dissertation here.

But simply put, human psychology isn't designed to comprehend the needs of all 8 billion of us. It's not wrong, it's simply that our social behaviours aren't built to accommodate concern for human populations thousands of miles away in vastly different cultural contexts.

Obvs one can only support so many, though, as an individual..

Well... quite.

People only have the capacity to divert their attention a limited number of things. That's what I said.

I understand that, but I feel your language was v insensitive

What was your dissertation topic? Sounds interesting.

We are not - but we have to try. Obvs there's only so much one individual can do, but we're rational beings, not monkeys, and part of that is rising above that mindset because it's the moral thing to do. Saying 'we're not designed that way, can't help it' is a copout. It feels somewhat reminiscent of Chamberlain's dismissal of Czechoslovakia as a 'faraway country of which we know nothing'. Obvs I am not suggesting we join the Sudanese war, but we can all try to raise awareness of the victims, among other things.

Humans probably weren't designed to live without war, either, but that doesn't mean we should just accept war as inevitable. The same could be said for man things. How many people have said that female submission was the natural & therefore unchangeable order?

Governments have intervened in faraway places since the conquest of America, no, before that. Whether you like it or not, we already intervene in faraway countries, and that will probs never change. The least we can do is make sure our government is acting with some semblance of morality.

As for the 'be interested' issue...obvs one can't support all causes, but I thunk people should donate more randomly. Otherwise you end up with situations where some countries unfairly acquire much more 'interest' - see the forgotten wars in Yemen & Sudan.

Arguably, this applies in other contexts, see the different attention given to Sarah Everard over other murder victims.

How sensitive do you want me to be?? There is so much happening around the world and OP was complaining that people aren't focussing enough on the one she happens to care about. There is only so much people can do - so, yeah, I think people need to be practical and choose what speaks to them.

I'm not sure why you've singles out my sentence but I stand by it.

Comparing British responses to different genocides, and the ways in which charities adapted their aid appeals to accommodate that.

I respectfully disagree with your main point, because it's always my principle to root solutions in "normal" human behaviour - that is, normal human ape behaviour in the wild. Especially en masse group behaviour, which is what the OP is calling for.

Genocide has ten "stages", for example, which aren't step by step, but occur in waves of adaptive social behaviour based in very basic evolutionary othering, the end point of which is that the apparent rational thing is to murder the lot of them. (And forgetting anything moral, genocide is never a rational act - by which I mean, the most "rational" murder would be one where one gains everything, at no cost to oneself. In genocide, the perpetrators lose a lot, AND expend a lot of resources by committing the murders.)

"worlds failure". But rich coming from the UN. 11 million displaced still blows my mind

news.un.org/en/story/2025/10/1166224

The whole op sounds like that is the main point.

Incorrect.
The UK and US sell arms to the UAE who supply the militia who slaughter and rape.

Yanbu and its horrific what is happening there.

My prayers for Sudan 🇸🇩 🙏

Keeping this thread and other Sudan threads alive is what we can do right now, to raise awareness xx

"Near its southern entrance, up to 50 teenage girls sat staring at their phones. Witnesses saw them being bundled into RSF pickup trucks, and driven away. None have been seen since.

Two hundred metres east, 30 RSF pickups entered Ahmadai neighbourhood. Sixty homes belonging to the ethnic Zaghawa tribe were set ablaze. Women were shot as they fled. Six stayed, and burned alive as a consequence."

Just a small part of the story but totally horrific. Those poor teenage girls. Those poor women.

All these wars and conflicts all over the world is just so heartbreaking, why can’t we just live in peace? The UK needs to open up a clear and efficient refugee scheme for displaced folks in danger in places like Sudan and Gaza, standing by and wringing our hands over all this suffering is unconscionable.

Wowsers.

Original tweet seems to have just been removed. The description still needs a trigger warning ⚠️

https://nitter.net/amjadt25/status/1983944318072312175#m

Wall street journal. Paywalled

https://www.wsj.com/world/africa/sudan-militia-armed-with-drones-hunts-down-black-population-of-darfur-08469935