To wonder why there isn’t more uproar about Sudan?

[AngeloMysterioso]

Sudan- where the actual worst humanitarian crisis in the world is happening right now. War, starvation, displacement of millions of people, suffering on a scale like nowhere else in the world. And yet it’s being virtually ignored. There have been maybe half a dozen threads about Sudan on mumsnet in the last year or so, compared with dozens discussing Israel/Gaza. On social media, for every one post I see mentioning Sudan, I have probably seen 20 or more about Gaza. Save The Children, for example, has posted seventeen times about Gaza in the past month and only once about Sudan.

Why? Why is Sudan being ignored while such a glaring light is being shone on Gaza? Is it because there are no Jewish people to blame for the Sudanese conflict? Or because the people suffering are black?

So what? There are many Christian people in senior positions in banks. You’re being openly racist.

You know what you said and you know what you meant.

Most likely this if I'm honest every single time I hear about another war another atrocity I'm thinking again? Then something else goes wrong (or right which is vanishingly rare these days) and it gets pushed away it's not that I dont feel sympathy I just have compassion fatigue and a shit life and seriously what exactly am I supposed to do about yet another conflict? I can't even get my 12 year old to eat vegetables its unfortunate and unfair but I genuinely dont think the UK is responsible for the world's difficulties

I find it abhorrent when people compare Gaza with Sudan.

Have a thread about Sudan and the lack of attention from the rest of the world.

Do not compare it with the attention Gaza gets for the unimaginable suffering going on there, as if it's some kind of hideous contest.

Two of the most unfortunate peoples in the world now used as sticks to beat each other with.

Abhorrent.

I said the killing of children is ALWAYS indefensible and unjustifiable. That is literally what I said and what I meant. I don’t know why you’ve attacked me for that but I’m done with defending a very basic moral standpoint

See also Yemen.

Horrifying, ongoing humanitarian crisis affecting millions of children. Probably the worst place on earth to be a woman, too.

‘Our government’ is directly involved -former colonists, benefitting from arms deals with the Saudis and recently involved in direct air strikes on the Houthis,

Pretty much the same players are involved + Saudi Arabia - USA, UK and (surprise surprise!) Iran - orchestrator and backer of the Houthis (charming chaps who like to use child soldiers and call for the death of Americans and Jews)… just like with Hezbollah and Hamas. It’s all very, very familiar, isn’t it? Yet no protests in the streets, limited news coverage, no bandwagon jumping politicians and activists jumping up and down about the plight of Yemeni children.

We all know why. You don’t need to be Jewish to work it out.

And for the posters saying we shouldn’t ‘compare’…why the fuck not?! We absolutely should be asking why some humanitarian crises garner so much more media attention and public outcry than others. In fact, it is vital that we do,

Death rates higher in Palestine
More children under 12 in Palestine

That would be the USA who is subject to ridicule and hostility daily on thos site and other similar sites and is continually told it interferes in world events. They have no responsibility for what is happening in Sudan so exactly why. I have no understanding what the USA has become, but the USA, UK. France and other western democracies are continually berated and criticised and even hated, yet when it comes to policing the world everyone expects them to step up. Why is this not an African issue to resolve.

And both sides on the Israeli Palestine conflict have the same genocidal murderous intent, it's just that Israel are better at it. There's no moral difference between the two side's aims. They both consider they are fighting for their existence and ideologically can not accept or understand the other point of view. What is being inflicted on Palastine would be inflicted on Israel if Hamas had the ability to do it. Doesn't make it right, but it's how it is.

Because they're black

It's that simple

If you read back you will clearly see that you attacked me for my comment. You told me to go fk myself or something. I just asked a question.

Netanyahu being such a warmonger on the world stage probably has a lot to do with it. Abhorrent man.

Death rates are not higher in palastine. The population is larger now than 2 years ago. Numbers provided from a terrorist group using images from Yemen, Syria and AI to manipulate useful idiots from the west into supporting the eventual second Jewish holocaust.

The UK is and has been providing aid to Sudan for a long time, in November UK aid spending for Sudan increased by £113 million. The UK (and others) have attempted to set up ceasefire talks with little success. Aid is getting into Sudan, attacks on refugee camps have lessened significantly in the last 12 montbs, medical staff are able to enter and work in Sudan, as are aid workers and journalists.

They are also two very different awful situations, Sudan is a civil war and has thankfully been genocide free for two decades, Palestine is a current genocide. Both have a population with greater numbers of young people, but this is more pronounced in Gaza, and due to basic biology children are more vulnerable to famine than adults. The UK are also complicit in Gaza, like many places the UK chose to leave Sudan in a crap place when they left in the 1950’s.

There is no genocide in Gaza. Horrific and unforgivable numbers are dying but it is not a genocide. What is happening to Druze in southern Syria at the hands of jihadists is a genocide. What happened recently to Hindus in India and Pakistan, yes. What happened to Israelis and Jews, yes. Gaza, no.

Genocide has nothing to do with numbers.

I know what genocide is. My family went through one.

I assumed you didn't have a clue because first it has nothing to do with the amount of deaths and you said this:

Horrific and unforgivable numbers are dying but it is not a genocide.

And second, a current investigation by the ICC is undergoing into genocide and many legal experts have declared it genocide. It certainly meets the criteria.

"Sudan....has been genocide free for two decades."

Not strictly accurate. Although the UN investigation found that war crimes rather than genocide had taken place, the US, earlier this year (pre-Trump 2) declared genocide has been committed on the Massalit and other ethnic groups.

It is not a genocide. Again. I know what genocide is.

You don't appear to as you spoke of numbers. I know what a genocide is as well and I agree with the experts.

Maybe because

Compassion fatigue maybe?

I am not intentionally being inflammatory I am trying to explain logically why there is a lack of news coverage re Gaza. Do you believe that media coverage is completely nonbiased and give us impartial fact all the time? Because THAT is foolish.