To wonder why there isn’t more uproar about Sudan?

[AngeloMysterioso]

Sudan- where the actual worst humanitarian crisis in the world is happening right now. War, starvation, displacement of millions of people, suffering on a scale like nowhere else in the world. And yet it’s being virtually ignored. There have been maybe half a dozen threads about Sudan on mumsnet in the last year or so, compared with dozens discussing Israel/Gaza. On social media, for every one post I see mentioning Sudan, I have probably seen 20 or more about Gaza. Save The Children, for example, has posted seventeen times about Gaza in the past month and only once about Sudan.

Why? Why is Sudan being ignored while such a glaring light is being shone on Gaza? Is it because there are no Jewish people to blame for the Sudanese conflict? Or because the people suffering are black?

Bang on the money with your first hypothesis for me.

Also, lots more people in the West, especially Europe, who have a natural affiliation to Gaza than for Sudan

Bang on the money op. No jewish people to blame in sudan so they dont give a shit.

Also UK allies aren't politically enmeshed wrt Sudan. What happens in Gaza and Israel has global ramifications for countries that we have political and economic ties to/beef with.

Unfortunately, Sudan isn't a "hot topic" or a trendy way of marking yourself out politically as "right on". Anything in Africa below Egypt in latitude seems to get filed as not important. Also, I don't think most of the people whose hearts are loudly bleeding for Palestine actually care about Palestinians at all, it's just so performative and being used for political point scoring.

The media - radio news, newspapers, news websites, ignores it so the people pay attention to what is shown to them. The question is who is selecting what outrageous pictures and stories to show or not show to the masses, and why?

You might be ignoring Sudan but that doesn’t mean everyone else is

at least we can get food in

perhaps it’s guilt - guilt that the west knew what Isreal wanted to do and just hoped the problem would go away as Isreal is rich ?

and closer to home - I think you find that any European country starving another would be equally well reported and discussed

and perhaps hope that if we shout enough our government will listen - they are out of sync with the general population / they need to recognise Palestine and denounce the actions of the isreali government

then perhaps we might feel that the uk is doing what it can even if it’s not much

Our government isn't complicit in what's going on in Sudan.

‘No Jewish people to blame’.

⬆️ Yep, this!

Well maybe not right now but historically we certainly are absolutely complicit in eg that it was set up at all. And I guess you could argue complicit in ignoring the UAE present role, as it's not expedient to go against them.

Because people are racist and don't care for them. Gazans or Muslims have bigger foothold in the west where we think mainstream life happens, do you see the double standard

Because it’s not a trendy uproar. Post about it a lot on social media and the uproarists will soon cotton on,and appreciate the refreshing new uproar of the season.

Also because we think we in the west are creme de la creme and some people even post stupid trash of they have amazing peace not reading the news, like really

As far as I'm aware, we're not supplying arms or soldiers. We've supplied both to Israel. We've also been very slow in condemnation and are still happily trading with them. The same can't be said for Sudan.

A lot of people in the UK are understandably, more consumed with their own lives and concerns.

Like I said, not now but looking historically - which arguably you should because nothing happens in a vacuum - we've got a lot to answer for. I mean we created Sudan.

It’s the now not what happened over history that I was referring to

historically we are an arrogant disaster to many nations

A lot less media coverage plays a part.

Isn't it because Sudan is a civil war? I think that conflict between nations is usually deemed more newsworthy than an internal conflict.

I'm not sure why you're arguing with me.

Has anyone even noticed the murder of Christians in Myanmar since 2021! Christian villages and churches attacked. Five years of it! Myanmar is now ranked at an 'extreme' level of persecution.

https://globalchristianrelief.org/christian-persecution/countries/myanmar/

Its a civil war. They need to sort that shit out themselves. Or are you suggesting we get our people involved?

I think there is the usual response of fatigue with the issues in Sudan which in turn are often conflated with issues in other African countries. I think it can be seen with the response to the Ukraine too. I think with Sudan it is much harder for people to have a clear sense of what could quickly change for the better whereas it’s demonstrably evident that the Israeli government could make changes that would ease the situation for women and children in Palestine. Watching the despair of starving doctors treating desperate families is dreadful.

I donate to both and others. I am appalled at the governments of both sides. I have compassion for the victims on both sides and plenty of fears for what the increased radicalisation of both sides will bring.

Whatabout

Whatabout

Whataboutery.

Do you care about Sudan or are you just trying to shut people up talking about Israel?

FWIW - I think it’s easy to understand. We provide support to Israel we don’t Sudan.

Also atrocities carried out by modern
democracies always seem to attract more attention.

But really this is just Whaboutism.

That doesn't ring true when you consider the lack of attention given to the Muslim ethnic cleansing happening in China.