Malnourished starving children in Gaza

[babyproblems]

The photos that appeared this morning on my news updates of mothers holding their children, dying of starvation and extreme malnutrition in Gaza have absolutely broken my heart. I am not particularly news focused, of course I’ve followed it all but this morning it has stopped me in my tracks and took my breath away. As a mother of a 3yo DS who is sleeping peacefully in his bedroom, whilst we have a fridge full of food downstairs and a life of peace, I feel so sorry that those poor mothers and children are living this hell so undeserved and also so so lucky we have the peace we do…
I don’t really know what the point of my post is; I suppose I’m screaming When Will This End inside and want to tell everyone to not take the freedom and peace we have for granted; use your right to vote and use your privilege to make informed choices that steer the world away from conflict towards peace…

Sending a handhold to all the mothers’ whose lives are not being lived in peace and whose children are suffering 🕊️💔

Then don’t start a massacre on innocent people of your neighbouring country!

I cannot continue engaging with posters who have absolutely no concept of critical thinking.
Wars are horrible horrible things but sometimes absolutely necessary.

if my country was attacked in the way that Israel was then I would want my national army to retaliate and win! You cannot and will never be able to negotiate with terrorists and they need to be wiped out.
if you think differently then quite frankly the media machine has indoctrinated you also.

The war is against Hamas though not the whole Gazan population. They escalated the conflict on 7/10 and committed terrible acts against innocent people. Normal Gazans, especially all of the children, are not to blame for those acts. That’s what people have an issue with. Critical thinking has led me to believe that the Israeli government doesn’t care about innocent civilians in its pursuit of Hamas which can only help Hamas recruit new members and prolong the war.

This. The Israel government is the best recruiting sergeant Hamas could possibly have.

No because Israelis are taught to fear Palestinians, not hate them. That's the difference. Palestinians are taught from birth that the most important thing they can ever do is martyr themselves killing Jews.

Where do you think the Guardian gets these statistics from?

I don't think most people are putting forward a goodies versus baddies narrative actually.

Everyone knows Hamas are evil. That's why they are a banned terrorist organisation.

But we are talking about the Israeli government not allowing enough food into Gaza, causing children to go hungry.

Arguing that the Israeli government's actions are ok because terrorist organistions like Hamas behave in an even more apalling way is not the winning argument you think it is

There are pallets and pallets of food in Gaza. Hamas and the UN refuse to distribute. x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1948021994860986445?t=EXROf0yB3d1PkdpC8KwWtQ&s=19

So it’s the UN that is starving Gaza’s children then?

https://x.com/MosabHasanYOSEF/status/1948154713775780246?t=ZSo8fwv631XzZ60UQ-M-0A&s=19 Mosab is an Arab. Nominated for nobel peace prize. He lives the Gaza reality. If you won't listen to me (and why would you?) listen to him.

Like I said war is horrible and that's why we shouldn't have them - obviously!

All wars are against the military power of that country and the citizens are at the mercy of their actions.

However, citizens have a moral duty to elect people to power who will behave in a way that is for their best interests, no?

Imagine a different Palestine for one minute, with governance that wanted a flourishing economy, well educated people and above all PEACE - that could be a reality but not in its current failed state and it will never happen while ideological governance has taken hold because they simply do not want a two state solution, if they had it would of happened decades ago.
For those that don't know this ‘THEY WANT TO WIPE OUT ISRAEL’

This 100% is the problem the world will not solve by any other means other than a strong defence and retalliate one hundred times harder.

If Israel fail then you don't want to know what comes next.

How would you fancy living next door to this? x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1951186318404259848?t=VAcr6BFCkQ2NDnkFxuL_vw&s=19

Yes, and the poor Palestinians haven’t been able to vote since 2006. Even in 2006, Hamas won a small majority (and didn’t win a majority in any district). They were meant to rule with the more moderate Fatah party but Hamas killed members of Fatah and seized control. Similarly, Palestinian interest/hope for a two state solution has closely matched Israel’s interest over the years (slowly decreasing as time went on).

The wish you have for Palestine matches the wish a lot of Palestinians probably have too. Except they are living in a war zone with an oppressive, terrorist government and an oppressive military attacker both of whom don’t care if their children die. I think it’s okay for people to feel sorry and outraged on their behalf. Someone needs to.

The Israeli government are the occupying military power in Gaza and it is their legal and moral responsibility to ensure the welfare of the civilian population.

I don't really understand the alleged 'supporters' of the Israeli government on this thread.

If the Israeli government took it's responsibilties to the people of Gaza seriously and ensured their welfare with the support of aid agencies etc it would do Israel nothing but good.

Israel would regain the moral high ground, regain international support and improve prospects for future peace.

Why do the pro-Israeli narrative posters always quote far-right zionists, such as Charlie Kirk and this woman, as impartial sources of information?

Why does Israel refuse access to Gaza to international journalists if they have nothing to hide? Why don't they allow international doctors who are working in Gazan hospital to bring in baby formula instead of confiscating it at the border?

Israel controls what happens in Gaza and they have only allowed the Gaza Humanitarian Aid Foundation (GHF) to distribute aid. The functioning of the organisation has been marked by repeated mass killings in the vicinity of GHF distribution sites.

Liza lives in the region. I trust her over a UK keyboard warrior who's never been anywhere near Israel.
Hospitals have baby formula.
GHF are distributing aid as fast as they can but are hampered by Hamas militants trying to steal the aid.

So charities, visiting medics or other NGOs in the region are more bias/less trustworthy than Liza? Her X feed alone makes me fear that spreading Islamophobia is her main mission so please be careful of getting caught up in her algorithm.

Palestinian - and generally Arab - aggression against Jews started way before the creation of Israel. Naturally, Jews started defending themselves. But now you twist it and state that they were terrorists 😆
And this constant referral to Nazi Germany is getting really boring now! The parallel between the Holocaust and Gaza is really tiresome and unoriginal. Comparing Netenyahu to Hitler is dumb.
Mosab Hassan Yousef (son of Hamas) said it himself that Hamas and Palestinians are the same thing. Hamas represents them. They voted for it. If somebody knows the truth about them, it’s him. If somebody knows what they are talking about, it’s him. Now that Hamas is starving its own people in order to gain sympathy from the world, the Palestinians might start to see the error of their ways and open their eyes to the truth. Or not…
Btw several news outlets and channels are documenting how tons of food is sitting inside Gaza, so stop saying that Israel is not letting food in when even Stevie Wonder can see that they are!

x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1951015583795052649?t=GeA2vt3DCtXl-oYWlUD6dA&s=19

That is very much disputed about Israel being the ‘occupying power’ They withdrew in 2005 considering the volatile extremist group attacking them.

Please just read the Guardian article which has been posted twice. The Israeli government stopped food deliveries completely for two months.

In any case whether the current crisis is through malice or incompetance or both the Israeli government urgently needs to prioritise sorting it out for the sake of Israel as well as for the civilians in Gaza.

Where did I say that Jews were terrorists? I said that the Irgun was a terrorist organisation. You are such a bad faith actor. Where did I mention Netanyahu or compare him to Hitler? I didn't. I compared your conspiracy theories to those peddled by Holocaust deniers.

Israel is making itself an international pariah.

It's quite funny that you would trust this woman because she lives in the general region more than you trust all of the International medics who have actually been in Gaza and seen what is happening with their own eyes. Doctor Tom Adamkiewicz and American paediatrician working at nassar hospital has begged Steve Witkoff to come and meet him and see for himself what is happening.

If you have all these international doctors in Gaza who are reporting to the world, why do you need international journalists there? Because you lot complain about Israel not letting international journalists into Gaza. No need. There are doctors there who can do the same job.

I assume the international doctors would much rather concentrate on treating their patients. However this is hampered by the fact that many of the children are malnourished.

So instead, and in the absence of international journalists, they have to spend their time countering disinformation and denials about the children being malnourished as they are credible, external witnesses.

Well I mean censorship is always a concern isn't it but yes it's great these Drs can tell us what they are seeing in Gaza. They were the ones who spoke about children being targeted by quadcopters, how after bombings down would come the quadcopters and shoot any survivors including children.

Ultimately though Drs are there to treat people, they spend all of their time in medical centres. If International journalists want to report from Gaza why shouldn't they be allowed? Why would Israel want to limit freedom of the press, a cornerstone of democratic societies something which Israel proudly declares themselves to be. I haven't seen a single persuasive argument against it.