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To be frustrated we’ve come all this way for his daughter just to cancel

138 replies

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:04

I have been with my partner for 5 years, we have a very good relationship. He is Russian, he has 2 children, a son and a daughter who are 24 and 26. His daughter lives in Lisbon with her boyfriend, his son lives in Moscow, we live in London.

We don’t see his children very much, he goes to see his son about once a year but I don’t feel comfortable visiting Russia so haven’t gone with him (first it was Covid now it’s the war and travel difficulties). He hasn’t seen his daughter since 2022, when she visited London and spent exactly one hour with him.

Now I don’t know if it’s cultural or if they just aren’t close but he seems to be unworried about it and I’m not going to push, he messages them both often.

Any way this year we planed our family holiday around his daughter, so are spending this week in Lisbon, we told her the dates 9 months ago, she said she would be around and could meet for dinner. We were meant to be seeing her tonight but she’s cancelled, saying something has come up, we have asked to reschedule for tomorrow or Sunday as we come home on Monday but she has said she can’t as she is flying to Rome to see friends tomorrow afternoon.

Realistically we wouldn’t have come to Lisbon if it weren’t for his daughter, lovely city but we tend ti prefer more rural holidays. He still sends her money every month and he seems genuinely hurt that she isn’t making any effort to see him.

She seems to avoid us and we don’t know why, like last year she went home to Moscow for a week but when my partner said he would go too she lied and said she had changed her mind but then her brother told him afterwords that she had come home.

My partner claims he doesn’t know why she is doing this and that they were close and they still message often.

AIBU to be really frustrated about this? I wouldn’t mind if she had just told us she didn’t want to see us but we have come all this way, gave her plenty of notice and now she cancels?

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2024onwardsandup · 25/07/2025 13:05

Sounds like he wasn’t a good father

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:06

2024onwardsandup · 25/07/2025 13:05

Sounds like he wasn’t a good father

Potentially, obviously I didn’t know him when his children were young. However that still begs the question, why let us travel here if she was never going to meet up with us anyway?

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HotCrossBunplease · 25/07/2025 13:08

There is definitely something going on. Could be him, could be her. Have you ever met or heard anything about the kids’ mother? Perhaps the daughter is close to the Mum and it was a bad split.

Hercules12 · 25/07/2025 13:08

Surely it’s obvious. He’s not made much of an effort and they have no relationship and she’d rather not see him.

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:09

HotCrossBunplease · 25/07/2025 13:08

There is definitely something going on. Could be him, could be her. Have you ever met or heard anything about the kids’ mother? Perhaps the daughter is close to the Mum and it was a bad split.

Apparently she isn’t close to her mother either, but it’s hard to know how true this is.

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Createausername1970 · 25/07/2025 13:10

It sounds like there is an underlying issue. Perhaps he wasn't a great dad when they were younger.

It wasn't great she cancelled at the last minute, but without knowing her side of things, it's impossible to comment.

If your partner is upset then he needs to ask her why she bailed. Or you could message her and say you were sorry not to see her, and you are wondering if there was any underlying reason and could you help to resolve it.

But be prepared to hear things you don't want to know about.

HotCrossBunplease · 25/07/2025 13:10

And to answer your question, what she has done is obviously way beyond standard thoughtlessness/disorganisation. So there is clearly a back story here.

Lambswools · 25/07/2025 13:10

She's got some reason, real or imagined, that's she's "punishing" him.

TheRealGoose · 25/07/2025 13:10

I think the fact he hasn’t see his own daughter for 3 years, and even when travelling all she planed to do was meet for dinner, not spend any meaningful time with him, and lied to avoid having to go to Moscow with him, says there is something very significant at play here in terms of how he parented. Likely at the time she thought she could meet for one meal but when it’s come to it she just can’t face it.

senua · 25/07/2025 13:11

Hercules12 · 25/07/2025 13:08

Surely it’s obvious. He’s not made much of an effort and they have no relationship and she’d rather not see him.

His DC are mid-twenties. Why on earth is he giving them money every month?

Wheresthebuttons · 25/07/2025 13:11

It sounds very hurtful. I thought she might have not wanted to see you with him, but that doesn't explain her lying to him about going to Russia.

He needs to talk to her about this, to see why she is acting this way - keeping in touch by text, accepting an allowance from him, but then standing him up is weird.

DaisyChain505 · 25/07/2025 13:12

Did you pay towards the holiday or did he pay for it all?

NoweverytimeIgoforthemailbox · 25/07/2025 13:12

Have you posted about him before? A PP have a similar issue but didn’t seem to know which country his daughter lived in.

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:12

senua · 25/07/2025 13:11

His DC are mid-twenties. Why on earth is he giving them money every month?

Only his daughter, not his son. I’ve tried to find out why but his only answer is she needs it and he has it.

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TheRealGoose · 25/07/2025 13:12

senua · 25/07/2025 13:11

His DC are mid-twenties. Why on earth is he giving them money every month?

I’d assume guilt money.

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:13

DaisyChain505 · 25/07/2025 13:12

Did you pay towards the holiday or did he pay for it all?

We paid half each but my 2 children (18 and 20) are with us so he paid more than his fair share in that sense.

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McSpoot · 25/07/2025 13:15

Seems a bit odd that you'd plan a vacation in a city that you don't really like for one meal with his daughter. Maybe she felt that you weren't really there for her and were just throwing her some scraps.

LondonPapa · 25/07/2025 13:15

senua · 25/07/2025 13:11

His DC are mid-twenties. Why on earth is he giving them money every month?

It is pretty normal for Russian fathers to keep paying for their daughters, even when they’re adults. Sometimes the sons are kept too but it depends on finances. Plus, by adulthood, it is expected the son is earning and doing well (especially if they’re from a reasonable background as I suspect OP’s partner is).

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:16

McSpoot · 25/07/2025 13:15

Seems a bit odd that you'd plan a vacation in a city that you don't really like for one meal with his daughter. Maybe she felt that you weren't really there for her and were just throwing her some scraps.

We offered much more than a meal. When we told her 9 months ago we said we’d like to spend time with her. We messaged a few weeks ago to make plans and she told us she was busy every night but the Friday.

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LondonPapa · 25/07/2025 13:16

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:13

We paid half each but my 2 children (18 and 20) are with us so he paid more than his fair share in that sense.

Ah. Perhaps this is why the daughter isn’t coming for even a dinner?

Hercules12 · 25/07/2025 13:19

The update throws more light. I can see why she didn’t want to meet him with his new family when he’s barely any relationship with her.

Hercules12 · 25/07/2025 13:20

Has he not tried to see her alone without you and your dc?

beAsensible1 · 25/07/2025 13:21

She’s clearly dodging him for some reason or other that you’re not privy to. Or something unresolved for her that he hasn’t noticed or bothered investigating. That’s usually it.

I don’t think you needed to make it a group holiday if it’s only Portugal. He could’ve gone for a weekend to try and see her and you could’ve done some thing together at a different time.

lisbon is great city and I’m sure you’ll be fine. Let your kids go and explore the city via e-bike or scooter.
visit Christ the redeemer. They’ve got an amazing waking city tour of all the old statues.

a food market where you try loads of different cuisines

Ghrale · 25/07/2025 13:21

Hercules12 · 25/07/2025 13:20

Has he not tried to see her alone without you and your dc?

We have offered this too, we made it clear when we came she didn’t have to meet up with all of us but when making plans she said she didn’t really mind if we came?

It is confusing as she had the opportunity to stop us coming at all, meet up with just her dad or see all of us and has instead just cancelled once we are here.

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RubyGemStone · 25/07/2025 13:24

Do you see pictures of her/follow her on socials? Am wondering if there is something about herself and her life she is trying to hide or keep separate.

Alternatively maybe she is trying to make a point? Did her father let her down often as a child.

What is the brother's theory? Seems she is more honest with him.